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The Linux Desktop Is Hard to Love

5 点作者 bradley_taunt将近 3 年前

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okasaki将近 3 年前
&gt; Most users want to boot up their machine and get to work. Linux can absolutely do this, but if a user hits a minor snag, then I guarantee they will have more difficulty fixing it compared to an issue found in macOS.<p>You use mac so you find it easier to fix macproblems. I use Linux and find it easier to fix Linux problems.<p>&gt; Design is important. The user experience will make or break an operating system.<p>Not really. Just look at windows. I press the windows key, type reboot and it gives me a link for the movie ReBoot. The Windows design is a joke. There must be something else going on, OP.<p>&gt; Another advantage macOS has over most other Linux desktops is tailored hardware.<p>Tailored to be bad I guess. My coworker with a mac can&#x27;t run more than 1 external screen or 8k graphics. Couldn&#x27;t pair to her sony headphones either. No such problems on Linux.
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armchairhacker将近 3 年前
The &quot;idea&quot; of the article is true. However I do think the KDE plasma desktop experience (at least since I&#x27;ve been using it a few months ago) works really well and is on par with macOS.<p>The UI of all the KDE applications are very similar, and the 2 others app I use (IntelliJ and Firefox) have their own cross-platform UI anyways. The desktop is stable and fast and I haven&#x27;t noticed any missing features we &quot;take for granted&quot; on macOS and Windows.<p>I do admit there are a few flaws. And by &quot;few&quot; I mean, basically package installation. I need to use sudo apt-get or dpkg -i or &quot;Marketplace&quot; or sometimes just build directly. I&#x27;m using Debian, maybe Arch is better here but even `pacman -S` is confusing to people who&#x27;ve never used Linux before. Also you can&#x27;t just click on a .deb to install it which makes no sense and is a <i>major</i> flaw IMO as most people just download from site + click to install on other OSs anyways. There are also a few areas where plasma actually does things better than macOS and Windows (e.g. click-to-open, &quot;move here &#x2F; copy here&quot; dialog).<p>IMO the biggest issue is that the Linux desktop space is so fragmented, it took me a while to find plasma. My first Linux desktop was Ubuntu on xfce which is IMO garbage and unless I&#x27;m mistaken still the de-facto default. I definitely don&#x27;t think that everyone should converge on plasma, but I <i>do</i> think it would be nice if everyone can agree to recommend plasma to newcomers: yeah it has a lot of bloat for power-users and may be slower, but as of now nothing else really compares in user-friendliness.
themodelplumber将近 3 年前
Tough to agree with some of this. For one, these days it&#x27;s pretty obviously a false or irrelevant dichotomy to frame the situation as Mac OS vs. Linux. A better comparison would be more like Mac OS vs. $distro. Linux is what, my Raspberry Pi? My phone? My kid&#x27;s laptop? My work desktop? Am I supposed to average all those out?<p>Since e.g. iOS isn&#x27;t being included here on the Apple side, it makes more sense to pick one of the author&#x27;s footnote distros and use that comparison instead.<p>&gt; but if a user hits a minor snag, then I guarantee they will have more difficulty fixing it compared to an issue found in macOS.<p>I wouldn&#x27;t take that bet. Not even close. The customizability and openness factors in favor of Linux also provide a benefit in yielding gobs of workarounds.<p>However, Linux critics who focus on ergonomics are well known for not being able to step out of some-imagined-user&#x27;s seat for a moment and make things work for themselves as they go, and so they essentially refuse to use workarounds, and they get stuck in a panic loop where over time they slowly reveal that they want COTS, perfected, ASAP. The archetypal context is the intellectual critic selecting an OS for the just-do-it performer; it&#x27;s another tense dichotomy that will result in a loop where the critic constantly asks, &quot;does it just work? Can I just do it? If not, then fail.&quot; The critic is too sensitive to the performer archetype.<p>Still, I think it&#x27;s better for the author to stick with the original argument from ergonomics based on one side they perceive as lacking. Going into comparative issues raises the &quot;some distros are actually amazing&quot; spectre again.<p>And IMO: Tailored hardware&#x27;s equivalent in Linux is asking around or searching hardware databases to see what works best. Quite often it&#x27;s a brand.<p>The Linux &quot;tailoring&quot; interface is easily observed in headlines about Linux developers communicating with specific brands. NVidia being a famous one. Linux devs are trying to tailor (remembering back to OOTB Linux hardware support in the early 2010s vs Windows--when it worked well, it was amazingly automatic and made Windows look bad. Windows caught up a little bit since then, in that area), but the Linux devs need direct brand support in a lot of cases.<p>At that point it becomes almost a consumer rights issue, which highlights another big-picture value of the Linux ecosystem and the reason a lot of people decided they&#x27;ll simply look for needed ergonomics workarounds as they go.
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