Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

588 点作者 lnyan将近 3 年前

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Sholmesy将近 3 年前

Review from Dave2D 4 months ago, addresses the crease & hinge on a pre-production unit<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFGhvYLbBRE" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFGhvYLbBRE</a>I think it seems like a cool idea, 17" at 4:3 ratio is alot of screen real estate, at a 12.5" 16:9 footprint.Lot of negativity in this comment section, personally not something I'm that interested in, but I am interested in people experimenting with the form factor.

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byteflip将近 3 年前

I’m unlikely to buy a foldable laptop, but a foldable monitor while traveling sounds kinda nice. I’m working from a hotel right now, so I can easily imagine it. Folding flat would offer protection from scratches in a bag/backpack and take less space. Would be hard pressed to fit a 17” portable monitor in my bag, but if it folds in half that’s more tenable!

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jacquesm将近 3 年前

The responses to this are more interesting than the device itself. It's innovative, it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products and it may well fit a niche.Innovation is always going to be risky, and Asus stands to lose some of their credibility if the device does not hold up over time. So I'll be more than happy to let them do their thing.As for sustainability: all electronics that contain rechargeable batteries are in principle not sustainable and we all have one or more of those devices. Let the person who has never used a portable battery powered device cast the phirst phone.

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Lio将近 3 年前

I'd be really excited if they offer this as part of their ZenScreen portable monitor range.They seem to be currently mostly 1080p but a folding 17" or larger HiDPI screen for an existing laptop would be brilliant.I generally like smaller laptops like the MacBook Air or XPS 13. I could see me using a tri-fold ZenScreen in hotel room and then just the laptop on a plane/train tray table.<a href="https://www.asus.com/Displays-Desktops/Monitors/ZenScreen/" rel="nofollow">https://www.asus.com/Displays-Desktops/Monitors/ZenScreen/</a>

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jfoster将近 3 年前

Looks fancy. Is this what the market wants?I don't particularly like Apple, but I use a Macbook Pro. I've been keeping an eye out for a non-Apple alternative to a Macbook, but nothing seems to come close in terms of hardware. I don't mean technical specs. I mean a beautiful screen, reasonable dimensions & weight, a really good touchpad, great battery life, etc.A big foldable screen looks cool, but doesn't feel at all pragmatic. Could someone please compete with Apple?

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TekMol将近 3 年前

Fold or not, what I want for a laptop is:A tablet with a matte screen.That can run Linux.So I can put it on a stand and a keyboard in front of it.That would be the ultimate travel setup! Working in cafes without having to look down all the time.Does something like this exist?

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mmanfrin将近 3 年前

Cool design, but absolutely never buying an Asus product again. Every single product I've bought from them (router, motherboard, monitor, etc) has broken, and their support system is an absolute nightmare.

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crakhamster01将近 3 年前

Pretty cool tech, but from the Dave2D video, the crease + bulkiness is still bad enough to be a dealbreaker for me (and I imagine many others as well).I find it interesting that companies like Asus, Samsung, etc. frequently put out these devices that feature emerging tech, but clearly aren't ready for primetime. You would never catch Apple releasing something like this since they have brand value to protect, but Asus seems to be fine risking that in order to claim the title of "first to market".One day this tech will be ready for the masses, and I imagine that's when Apple will release something. Why are companies like Asus spending money on marketing that "warms up" the general audience to this tech, only to have Apple come eat their lunch a few years later?

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michaelsalim将近 3 年前

This is really exciting. Being able to fold will make it so much easier to carry around. My dream is to have a 24 or even a 27 inch monitor that you can fit in an every day backpack.I don't really care that it's also a laptop. Heck, I don't get why you would ever want a foldable phone. But foldable monitor at this size makes a lot of difference in packing.At 17 inch, it's not the biggest difference since you can still fit that in a backpack. 24 inch? Good luck. But I'd imagine the size to increase over time. Surprised nobody is talking more about this.

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can16358p将近 3 年前

But what is the software support for the folding screen? The hardware is cool and assuming it doesn't break in a few months, I see the lack of much software support as the biggesr adoption roadblocker.I don't think just treating it as one big screen or two/three separate screens without any more context would be enough.

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martijn_himself将近 3 年前

I don't really get the appeal of folding screens, but then I didn't get the appeal of iPads when it was announced.One thing I would love is an iPhone / iPad that docks and dual boots into macOS powering a monitor- surely that should be technically possible by now.

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preisschild将近 3 年前

I'd just wish for an arm64 laptop that isn't made by Apple.Software development is getting more and more relevant on arm, and using native tools is way better than cross-compiling.OLED is pretty cool though.

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olliej将近 3 年前

This seems much more useful than the plethora of folding phones from a year or so back. Like doubling the size of a phone's screen doesn't get it to a size that is more useful imo - I don't watch tv/video on my phone, so I realize the value may be different for others.But being able to have 17" of real-estate without having a 17" rectangle seems like a big deal, and I can see the half size also being more useful.I remain worried about creasing, etc but I think those are technical things that are going to be resolved eventually. Making a device that is useful when switching between two screen sizes is the product issue, and on face/marketing image this looks like a great concept to me.

rowanG077将近 3 年前

Honestly I don't get the hate. I would love this form factor. I used a Surface Pro for years and loved it. This looks to be superiour in every way.

seltzered_将近 3 年前

I run a subreddit on ergonomic mobile computers ( <a href="https://reddit.com/r/ergomobilecomputers" rel="nofollow">https://reddit.com/r/ergomobilecomputers</a> ) and find this intriguing.Aside from concerns about the folding display, the keyboard is wireless and detachable unlike a Microsoft surface, so you can actually put the display on a stand and not worry about craning your neck down - all with the stock keyboard. In my setup I actually have the screen close up such that I no longer need to wear eyeglasses when at the computer anymore.

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eterps将近 3 年前

AFAIK there is absolutely no innovation with software defined keyboards, they statically mimic a physical keyboard. I would expect well defined open APIs so that applications tailor the keyboard for optimal contextualized use for that app. The only thing that came close is Apple's touchbar but even that one is quite static and not very liberating in practice. Of course the downside of adaptive software keyboards is that you have a slightly different keyboard layout per application, so mostly a feature for experienced and professional users.

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bbertelsen将近 3 年前

For me personally, this is exactly what I want. On days where I have meetings. It's a tablet for note taking. On days where I'm studying, it's a PDF reader either in 12.5" mode or 17" mode depending on the symbols. On days where I'm coding I would probably pair this with a g915 tlk and a second 15" portable monitor. That's a very reasonable workstation in a bag and wouldn't be heavy at all. The flexibility to be different types of devices in just one laptop is excellent. Where do I buy it?

jmartrican将近 3 年前

I'm a programmer that spends a lot of time programming on my laptop without an extra screen. I use 15" laptops exclusively because it has a decent balance between screen size and portability. But when coding (and a lot of coding is done over Zoom where folks with bigger screens are sharing their desktops) every little bit of real-estate counts. So the idea of having a 17" in a more portable form factor, and weight is very intriguing. Like its crazy to think a 17" laptop can be under 4 lbs (3.3 lbs to be exact).

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notacoward将近 3 年前

I would love something like this if it used a real hinge or a slide instead of a folding screen. Best of all IMO would be a three part screen (two hinges/slides) with a 1:2:1 ratio so that the line - which can be small with modern bezel-less design but still present - won't be in the middle. That makes it usable for games etc. as well as many tiled terminal/editor windows. Innovation is great and all, kudos to them for trying this, but validating the UX aspects separately from the base display technology seems worthwhile.

CivBase将近 3 年前

As a replacement for my laptop, I hate this. But as an auxiliary tablet, this is much more interesting. If I had a good use case for a tablet, a folding one that runs Windows sounds much more appealing than a flat tablet running Android or iPadOS.My biggest complaint is that I see no indication that this could accept a video input and double as a portable display. If it did that, I would start to consider something like this for myself even without an obvious use case for a tablet.

gorgoiler将近 3 年前

This could be such an enormous game changing format. What an exciting time this is.For me, the idea of being able to lift up the keyboard and reveal a second screen is just crazy exciting. Fluidity in format feels like the next great leap in mobile computing.To that end, I wonder we haven’t yet seen devices without multiple detachable wireless screens? I would love to detach a screen off the back of my MacBook — when I had space to — and have an impromptu second display.

chadlavi将近 3 年前

Can't wait til everyone gets this foldable screen nonsense out of their system. It's all destined for a tech oddities display in a museum.

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wslh将近 3 年前

Nice system but it is ironic that nowadays many people are moving to Apple Silicon just for the battery. Beyond the better specs like touch screens, cameras resolution, etc.Going back in time I just now recognize and remember that one key aspect of the Palm original devices was battery duration comparing to previous experience (e.g. Newton) in innovations.

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pnut将近 3 年前

I find this potentially intriguing for my use case, which is 95% working from home in a fixed office arrangement.Under those circumstances, if this can drive two external monitors, I could have the best of both worlds- a big third monitor for my primary work situation, but then it's the same device but mobile when I need to go into the office etc.

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varispeed将近 3 年前

I really didn't want to do this, but I bit the bullet and bought M1 MacBook Pro. Oh, having previously worked on XPS 15, this laptop is like next level in terms of pretty much everything. I feel like manufacturers putting Intel or (to an extent) AMD processor in any laptop just waste their time. Sure there will be people who will buy it (who don't know about M1/M2), but it's like buying a legacy technology for premium price. So while the folding screen looks impressive, I can't help but think it is just an expensive gimmick. Rather than churning very much the same laptops year on year I wish manufacturers spent some time on designing a new CPU if Intel and AMD can't keep up or trying to license the CPU tech from Apple.

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Multicomp将近 3 年前

I've been wanting a Microsoft Courier since they first did that concept video - I'm getting one of these Asus ones even if it is very early days. This Asus has a better setup than the X1 fold, I've saved up the cash, I want one.The current ultimate OneNote device!

k__将近 3 年前

That's the first time I see foldable displays put to good use.Nice!

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drusepth将近 3 年前

I scrolled all the way through and couldn't find a price and/or a release date. Does anyone have the numbers?I've been using a Lenovo Yoga Book (10" foldable running Android with virtual keyboard/wacom on second "screen") for years now that this would be the PERFECT upgrade for. Love the ratio, love the screen size, and love the screen versatility. Took me a few months to get used to typing on a screen, but it's kind of a non-factor now; being able to bring your own keyboard for an even bigger screen though.. that's a killer feature IMO -- as long as the crease isn't too noticable and the hinge actually lasts a long time.

Hippocrates将近 3 年前

It blows my mind that companies have the resources to sink into "innovations" like this that are just so far out that they are sure to fail. The mere sight of this stresses me out with how fragile it looks, and how clumsy it would be to use

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prmoustache将近 3 年前

I want to see high-res pictures of that device after 2, 5 and 10 simulated years of use.

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remram将近 3 年前

I would buy a laptop with two separate screens that unfold. I need the extra space to show more windows, not bigger windows, so I wouldn't mind them being separate panels. With different sizes even.edit: Maybe I should just buy a portable monitor.

bluelightning2k将近 3 年前

This looks really cool. Imagine if Apple had released this.Even the software stuff is genuinely very interesting: use a tablet and phone as external screens when I'm travelling? Smart background noise reduction? Yes please!

cr3ative将近 3 年前

I can't help but see folding screens as a limited-life product. Sure, laptops only last, usefully, about 6 years anyway, but it's such an obvious wear spot which would cripple the entire device.Thanks, but no thanks.

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belter将近 3 年前

I though OLED burn-in was still a real issue?"How real is risk of OLED burn in?": <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/4kTV/comments/r0l7cj/how_real_is_risk_of_oled_burn_in/" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/4kTV/comments/r0l7cj/how_real_is_ri...</a>"Being an Early Adopter SUCKS - Trying to Fix Burn-in on my LG CX": <a href="https://youtu.be/hWrFEU_605g" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/hWrFEU_605g</a>

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ge96将近 3 年前

This is something I'd always thought about eg. "why not have both halves be screens". Now here it is. Will be interesting how it's like typing on a piece of glass, we do it on a phone. I'll try it one day but that'll be when they're not $2K each or whatever price. Which I don't buy brand new laptops or $1K phones to begin with so nothing against this in particular.Although I imagine buying something like this used is probably not a good idea. (wear tear)

ajot将近 3 年前

What I wonder is: how a screen that's supposed to be put indistinctly "vertically" or "horizontally" refreshes the image?I remember the Dragonbox Pyra having some trouble because the cellphone/portrait screens they could get didn't have a way to refresh normally when put in a handheld/landscape orientation, and the shim software they made to adapt for this caused a penalty in performance.

resoluteteeth将近 3 年前

Using a touch screen as a keyboard when it's folded in laptop mode just looks painful.If the technical issues could be ironed out, folding phones would seem to make a lot of sense theoretically since it would be great a device that's small in your pocket but has more screen real estate when you're using, but this device doesn't seem like it would be that pleasant to use even if it worked perfectly.

skilled将近 3 年前

Now I am genuinely curious why I have the psychological impulse to immediately think to myself "disaster" whenever I see one of these folding screens. I guess I have Samsung to thank for that. And I doubt I am alone in this sentiment.Good on Asus for making bold moves. I've got one of their laptops as my primary machine for the last couple of years and it has been as reliable as the best of them.

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nordsieck将近 3 年前

IMO, this isn't great.It's competing with laptop + USB monitors that are optimized for portability. That setup is a little less elegant, but it's less expensive and it's composed of reliable components. And, you can easily use the stand-alone laptop in cramped quarters like on a bus/airplane.The only real downside is, it's a little less compact compared to the Asus design.

Ekaros将近 3 年前

Actually seems pretty interesting one. Still, I guess the price is outside reasonable range like other foldable products at this point.

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londons_explore将近 3 年前

I don't feel like I can really comment on this till I've tried it. It's too different from other devices.

noobermin将近 3 年前

I think the only thing about foldable screens is eventually the crease does not iron out and is part of the screen permanently, meaning likely you'll have to live with the crease eventually.I've seen many Samsung foldable screens that are display units at the store, that crease is pretty worn out after a few months to a year.

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bee_rider将近 3 年前

Ah, I got one of their Flips around the beginning of the year, wish I'd waited as this looks really cool.Wonder how the Linux support will be. The Flip has decent Linux hardware, as far as I can think of, every feature is working other than their useless numpad-on-trackpad thing (which I didn't even bother looking into).

hombre_fatal将近 3 年前

Folding tech for phones wasn't quite as interesting, just a small cherry on top of something we already accommodate. Fine.But folding tech for 17" screens is amazing because of how massive those screens are. They are completely unwieldy in the normal unfolding form factor, unlikely to fit in your backpack.

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iasay将近 3 年前

Expensive luxury land fill like all foldable displays currently are. This takes it to the extreme. I am not impressed. We should be building for sustainability at this stage of our existence and this is exactly the opposite of it.Plus it runs the worst touch based operating system on the market.

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hyperpallium2将近 3 年前

Folding, glasses or projection seem the only ways to smaller yet bigger.On a folding phone, I found the hinge is noticable on a blank screen - but not when watching a video. Not sure how it will go with a terminal, but if a window doesn't cross the hinge, would it matter?

gabrielhidasy将近 3 年前

That's almost what I wanted from Lenovo with the X1 Fold, I already have space to carry around a 14" notebook, I gain nothing on a device that's half the size, but twice the screen on the same space, that would be awesome.

galaxyLogic将近 3 年前

Can I have two of these displays connected to a single "laptop" ?

mandeepj将近 3 年前

Great idea! A lot of people still WFH, I guess its adoption would take some time to take off, if that was not case. Of course, it all depends if the product itself takes on the positive trajectory.

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65将近 3 年前

Needless complexity, similar to folding phones no one found a use for. It makes for really great YouTube tech content but is mostly just a direct downgrade in everyday usability.

childintime将近 3 年前

It seems they missed the opportunity to store the keyboard inside the clam shell.That location would even allow the keyboard to be angled, quite the improvement.

zbird将近 3 年前

"Fully opened, the 17.3-inch touchscreen is perfect for presenting your big ideas, or simply kicking back to relax on the web."Relax on the web? Oh boy...

Kaibeezy将近 3 年前

No pricing yet. Guesses out there from $1599 to £2000 to $3999.

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tdiff将近 3 年前

The next greatest innovation would be a self-cleaning display.

bradgranath将近 3 年前

Why do people want foldy screens so bad? I get that they fit in your pocket better, but reading or viewing images through the crease looks awful.

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fleddr将近 3 年前

Admittedly, An interesting idea for the very mobile user.As for mainstream usage, horrible in my view. A 12.5" laptop, who works on this? Ants? Even the "full fledged" desktop experience is 17". A size I considered too tiny for ergonomic work 2 decades ago. Windows in touch mode...meh.Given that it's main value is in ultra mobile use, it's weird to flex all kinds of gimmicky features like audio. As if it's some kind of "creator" laptop, which it isn't.It's typical of Asus, a showcase laptop throwing lots of stuff at the wall.

lxe将近 3 年前

Why isn't resolution front and center? Oh it's because it's "Up to 2.5K (2560 by 1920)", so still stuck in 2007.

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parski将近 3 年前

Oh my god. A 4:3 OLED panel? My dreams coming true!

fragmede将近 3 年前

The device looks gorgeous, but what's with the promo pics on that page looking like I've broken the screen on it?

honkycat将近 3 年前

I actually kinda love this form factor. my laptop is a glorified desktop/monitor and removing the keyboard is a good idea.

quickaskq将近 3 年前

This reminds me… what ever happened to Microsoft’s Surface Neo? This is a very similar idea, especially with the external keyboard

Darmody将近 3 年前

I love the innovation but I don't see me buying something like this. I'd use it like a standard laptop and I think most people would do the same.And then you have all the possible screen problems. We've seen it happening with phones and I wouldn't like paying a considerable sum of money for something that will break easily if I look at it the wrong way.Gives us connectivity, good screen, power and autonomy. Leave the weird designs, they remind me of the mobile phone era before the iPhone.

Havoc将近 3 年前

Looks neat. I'm curious why its trending so high on hn though?Out of the first 20ish comments a single one expresses a desire to get one

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taf2将近 3 年前

at least according to all the Asus laptop fixes from <a href="https://northridgefix.com/" rel="nofollow">https://northridgefix.com/</a> - these are probably pretty unreliable laptops... like probably a capacitor will fail causing a short that prevents the laptop from charging after less than a year...

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tluyben2将近 3 年前

How does the 17 inch screen stand up? There are no pictures of it standing from the back. Maybe I overlooked it?

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ngcc_hk将近 3 年前

Great idea. Not cheap I assume.Like msft the desktop display model. If it also helped in mac … then cost not an issue.

anigbrowl将近 3 年前

Intriguing. Also their marketing is good, and I say that as someone who hates advertising.

fezfight将近 3 年前

I love how these companies advertise Windows 11 Pro as a feature. As if anyone would be surprised or excited for what is effectively the status quo. It'd be like being surprised or excited that it was black.Its just kinda funny. Now if it was certified to run OSX, Linux, Beos, or Temple OS, or something, now THAT would be a selling point.

chmod775将近 3 年前

I found this sentence to be hilarious:> The color-accurate 2.5K slim-bezel NanoEdge Dolby Vision screen is also PANTONE® Validated with TÜV Rheinland-certified low blue-light levels.It's the second sentence on the page, prominently at the top. Do they expect the average consumer knows what any of that means?There's more made up marketing BS there than English.

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a-saleh将近 3 年前

This looks very simmilar to the thinkpad one. And I can't seem to find the price?

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nsonha将近 3 年前

the hardware is pointless when it runs on windows, a crap OS, I'm still waiting patiently for linux on mobile, let alone foldable linux

winrid将近 3 年前

Finally, I can feel like I'm in Westworld.

pantulis将近 3 年前

This should be great for reading sheet music!!

canbus将近 3 年前

What problem do folding screens actually solve?

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some_bool将近 3 年前

My username says it all about this product

gwbas1c将近 3 年前

Where do I buy it?

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arthurcolle将近 3 年前

How many truckloads of money is this?

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asdfags将近 3 年前

meme tech

j3th9n将近 3 年前

ccbccccbbcccbb将近 3 年前

Planned obsolescence presented as a feature.

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RektBoy将近 3 年前

Who TF needs this? And how much is the repair?

shimonabi将近 3 年前

Form over functionality.

silon42将近 3 年前

Give me a proper mechanical full-size-keys keyboard laptop instead (TKL please).

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bluescrn将近 3 年前

How many folds before it's e-waste?I'm guessing that even the battery will outlive early-generation folding screens.

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galogon将近 3 年前

Apple Silicon killed Windows laptops. Why go back to loud fans and so much worse battery life?

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suction将近 3 年前

As with most Asia-led "novelty" features on electronic devices, this looks like a "because we can" feature rather than a "because it's useful" feature.