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2022 Oder Environmental Disaster

215 点作者 Red_Tarsius将近 3 年前

11 条评论

Metacelsus将近 3 年前
My girlfriend&#x27;s cousin lives on this river, in Wrocław. It&#x27;s causing quite a political scandal, with the PiS leadership accusing the opposition of causing it (of course, this is blatantly untrue) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiadomosci.onet.pl&#x2F;lubuskie&#x2F;spozniona-reakcja-w-sprawie-odry-wiceminister-uderza-w-trzaskowskiego&#x2F;3znlc2c" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiadomosci.onet.pl&#x2F;lubuskie&#x2F;spozniona-reakcja-w-spra...</a>
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jl6将近 3 年前
A cool HN feature would be to snooze an article for, say, 2 weeks, so that we could come back to it when we know some more facts. At the moment, it’s an interesting event, but discussion is plagued with speculation as to the cause.
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machinekob将近 3 年前
Its probably biggest environmental catastrophy in Europe after chernobyl, and the best of all polish goverment officials said on wednesday: &quot;Everything is fine, you can go swim in the river and catch fish&quot; and 2 days later they revert it all and send warnings to all people living near the river and this proceder was going on for at least 2 weeks.
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Joeri将近 3 年前
AFAIK they still don’t know what caused this, which makes it the perfect social media rage machine, because everyone is free to blame anyone.
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jakzurr将近 3 年前
From Washington Post,<p><i>Scientists have speculated that factors beyond deliberate dumping could be at play. The mercury could have settled in the river’s sediment because of past pollution, before being stirred up by recent dredging. Europe’s historic heat wave this summer could also be to blame. The continent is facing what is potentially its worst drought in 500 years; low water levels and high temperatures could be choking off oxygen supplies to the river’s aquatic life and worsening existing pollution.</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2022&#x2F;08&#x2F;13&#x2F;poland-oder-river-mercury-fish&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2022&#x2F;08&#x2F;13&#x2F;poland-oder-...</a><p>BTW, article is viewable on Chrome with scripting turned off (NoScript).
chrisbrandow将近 3 年前
Informed only by a degree in chemistry, it seems unlikely that either mesitylene or mercury stirred up from the sediment would cause such an acute event. The salt water mentioned in the Wikipedia articles seems substantially more plausible. But more facts will certainly improve our understanding.
rich_sasha将近 3 年前
The title is somewhat optimistic by not specifying the month, or an ordinal.
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scyzoryk_xyz将近 3 年前
I live near the river and so many rumors and stories on this flying around now. It’s the perfect storm of information negation and whataboutism and panic.<p>One immediate thing is certain in my surroundings though - a neighbors dog is at the vet poisoned from swimming in that river a few days back.
numlock86将近 3 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32449865" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32449865</a>
praptak将近 3 年前
Here&#x27;s a first hand report from an activist: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;adamkoscielak.medium.com&#x2F;how-greed-and-incompetence-killed-polands-second-largest-river-bb9ac8302d0f" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;adamkoscielak.medium.com&#x2F;how-greed-and-incompetence-...</a>
lkrubner将近 3 年前
All of the populist far-right parties seem to lean on &quot;whataboutism&quot; as their main explanation for everything. &quot;We did something bad? But what about that time the other side also did something bad? Surely that means we are innocent?&quot; At no point do they simply acknowledge how very sad this is. Poland is one of the most beautiful countries in the world, and yet it&#x27;s being sacrificed to satisfy the greed of a few corporations.<p>From the Wikipedia page:<p>&quot;The Polish government said that the perpetrators would be severely punished, however also blamed uninvolved opposition politicians Donald Tusk, Rafał Trzaskowski and compared the situation to other previous unrelated events in Warsaw and Gdańsk, where the opposition Civic Platform hold power. Grzegorz Witkowski, a government minister, as well as repeating the unfounded government claims, also blamed ecologists and stated that the river is safe to enter.&quot;<p>Grzegorz Witkowski is trying to bring back a pre-Gorbachev style of Communist communication. &quot;The problem isn&#x27;t that the river was poisoned, the problem is that ecologists have told people the river is poisoned.&quot;
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