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Ask HN: How do I expand my worldview and meet smart people online?

65 点作者 lemonade5117超过 2 年前
Going to a big school and meeting people with different backgrounds and interests has made me painfully aware of how ignorant I am. I'd like to meet people who will challenge me intellectually and act as a catalyst for my growth. I'm thinking of reading some lesswrong posts and hanging around in the comments and perhaps exploring that part of the internet. It's not perfect but it's a start I guess. What are some of your experiences with meeting people on the internet and how does one go about meeting great people?

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boboralice超过 2 年前
Real world meetups about subjects you&#x27;re interested in will have better value than most online stuff.<p>Read books about things that interest you, and use Goodreads as a source of inspiration for future reading material.<p>Get off Facebook. Either learn to optimize Twitter as someone else suggested, or get off there too, because it&#x27;s easy for it to become an echo chamber if you aren&#x27;t smart about how you use it. I prefer Mastodon because if you choose a good instance there&#x27;s less fluff and you&#x27;re not funneled into your own echo chamber.<p>Where possible, I use special-interest-focused-forums (yes, old-fashioned forums still exist) instead of Reddit. Again, some parts of Reddit are good, but a lot have horribly biased moderation. It depends on the subject.<p>Start a blog and link it to your social media. I&#x27;ve found participating in blogging challenges has helped me build readership and find new blogs to read, and those blogs have helped me find meetups or conferences in subjects I&#x27;m interested in. Some of those have required travel, but the travel has been worth it.
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tomjakubowski超过 2 年前
I can&#x27;t tell if you&#x27;re still a student at the big school, but if you are I would definitely prioritize building local friendships and maintaining them above meeting new people on the Internet. It sounds like the locals are pretty smart and would challenge you intellectually the way you&#x27;d like.
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frantzmiccoli超过 2 年前
My first feeling here is: please reach out. I wouldn&#x27;t mind a quick honest online call to exchange views and all. My contacts details can be deduced from my profile.<p>Besides that I have found it hard to meet interesting people, I have found a few through meetup.com communities, some in professional context. Some people are jewels that need to be cherished and admired, there is no magic mine where you can find them for free.<p>One learning though, the harder it is to get somewhere the more interesting people you will find. In that sense all those networking events have a quality that is proportional to how hard it is to get in.
advisedwang超过 2 年前
I recommend starting by reading. Read history, politics, fiction. Read banned books and popular books. You can expand your horizons much faster this way than trying to meet 100s of people, and it allows you to find a direction that appeals to you.
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jonahbenton超过 2 年前
Twitter is a place where interesting people doing interesting work in all kinds of fields with all kinds of priors from all kinds of perspectives post threads about their work generally for non-specialist consumption. Among my follows from intellectual perspective are animal studies folks, small book publishers, medieval studies, anthropologists, chemists, banking nerds, political scientists, contract lawyers, religious educators, sex educators, Native American advocates....<p>From cultural perspective as an older white northeast US man I pick folks to follow from as wide a demographic and timezone range as possible.<p>Lots of other stuff happens at Twitter too of course but this is what I use it for. Haven&#x27;t found another soup like it.<p>And of course the VAST majority of the world is not on Twitter, maybe owns a phone but not a computer, and does interesting things unknown to the digital sphere. To actually EXPAND your worldview you have to travel. Go to the places, put your entire meatspace sensory apparatus in the environment. But the Platos shadow online version is I think what you were asking about.<p>There are LOTS of ways to optimize Twitter use but to start just make sure you change the algorithm to latest tweets, rather than &quot;Home Tweets&quot; and then start adding people. When you get up to 1000 follows you should have a steady stream of worldview novelty.<p>Addition: &quot;meet&quot; has multiple connotations and often the two way interactive meet with interesting people is hard&#x2F;impossible because they are very busy and&#x2F;or manage their time, etc. Twitter presents an opportunity for learning passively through osmosis, which is also not the same as two way interaction but can be worldview expanding all the same.
bckr超过 2 年前
Add depth, insight, and research to conversations and stick around for awhile. Send emails or DMs to people who are open to it. It&#x27;s really just like meeting people anywhere, but your charisma comes through in your writing instead of your speech and appearance.
minhmeoke超过 2 年前
If you&#x27;d like to expose yourself to more diversity: Take an art class or join a makerspace or hackerspace, the creativity and different value systems of the people there will blow your mind. Study the values of another religion. Learn another language. Volunteer at a homeless shelter, food bank, or other community service organization. People who engage in these activities are often a self-selecting group of people who might be optimizing for objectives different than what you usually do.<p>Take classes at a community college, and find people involved in the extracurricular activities (eg: engineering clubs, math clubs, philosophy clubs). Unlike 4-year colleges, people in community colleges come from all different walks of life and backgrounds. There are a lot of flaky people, but also some really motivated high-schoolers or seniors.<p>If you&#x27;d like more intellectual rigor: Take a philosophy class or join a philosophy club. You might find people who are really interested in questioning everything and debating in ways that will shatter your assumptions and change your worldview. Start following people who are involved in scientific research, maybe do some research yourself.<p>In addition, some people started a Hacker News Learns discourse group which you might be interested in joining: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discord.gg&#x2F;WyRBDGgeCG" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discord.gg&#x2F;WyRBDGgeCG</a><p>It covers all types of interesting topics ranging from economics and history to soft skills, mathematics, philosophy, and personal knowledge management (Zettelkasten and related systems) and I&#x27;ve met some really interesting people from around the world there.<p>Also, +1 to special interest forums as others have mentioned here, although those tend to go very deep into a particular topic.
tony超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve done this during COVID. Zoom groups. I want to share my experience:<p>Participants in the zoom crowd are great folks.<p>Occasionally, these zoom events could get amped up on internet banter - this could disappoint the original poster&#x27;s goal of broadening their horizons.<p>The zooms aren&#x27;t a random sampling of a professional or academic field. I&#x27;ll leave it at that.<p>Also, if we&#x27;re there, we&#x27;re also part of that statistic: we needed the internet to socialize - which is OK - but that puts us with other people who were also frustrated in real life and needed to go online to connect with others.<p>These sessions had highly talented presenters from around the world. Despite that, they often weren&#x27;t places where everyone gets work gets done - which may surprise people used to Gitlab&#x2F;GitHub&#x2F;etc and doing open source. If you want to chat, OK - if you like to accomplish things, nothing happens. This really was what struck me the most.
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10g1k超过 2 年前
1) Stay away from Twitter, TikTok, and 4chan.<p>2) Try Thinkspace.<p>3) Try online forums specifically inhabited by members of professions and academic fields.
dredmorbius超过 2 年前
Find an area of interest or general framing question[1] and follow that.<p>I&#x27;ve been online since the 1980s. I&#x27;ve come to feel that there&#x27;s a general hierarchy of informational quality by medium. From highest to lowest:<p>- Books. Particularly Great Books. The list at the end of Mortimer Adler&#x27;s <i>How to Read a Book</i> is an excellent start.[2] Your library, Project Gutenberg, and the Internet Archive offer lawful access to a tremendous set of titles. Library Genesis and ZLibrary extend that but thumb noses at copyright. IMO in a truly justified sense. I tend <i>not</i> to follow recently-published works closely, it takes about a decade <i>at least</i> for actual value to surface. There are <i>specific</i> exceptions to this, of course, but in general (and as a theme for what follows), the odds that the most useful and compelling work on some topic has been published recently is ... low. Audiobooks are an acceptable substitute or adjunct to reading text. Both fiction and nonfiction have value, though I read far more of the latter. Syllabii from academic courses on a specific topic are an excellent curation tool. I also follow references and bibliographies, and stalk specific authors of interest. Writing authors with specific questions can be productive, but don&#x27;t abuse the privilege.<p>- Articles and essays in traditional publications, both academic and popular.<p>- High-quality produced &amp; edited podcasts <i>or</i> academic or structured lectures &#x2F; discussions. I&#x27;m listening to a law-school podcast episode at the moment. I&#x27;ve listened most to several philosophy podcasts (many of our current questions and problems ... are not especially new. Even where earlier philosophical discussion is <i>wrong</i>, it has often anticipated many present questions and discussions (and the realisation of this can be amusing, frustrating, and&#x2F;or illuminating, variously). It&#x27;s also a remarkable tour through <i>just plain wrong</i> results which can be arrived at through many centuries of mislead rational thought. I follow several foreign-language podcasts (mostly as a language-learning aid), and a few topical podcasts. The <i>less</i> these focus on present news and politics, the better. Ezra Klein is the principle exception to that set. Long-form interviews can be quite good. The New Books Network offers a huge list of channels and a tremendous back-catalogue of academic books, though the interviewer and production quality are both highly variable. It&#x27;s an excellent guide to what&#x27;s coming out of academic presses, and tends to be eclectic. Not all books are worth reading, or even listening to authors talk about. London School of Economics has an excellent lecture series. There are several university press podcasts, some extant, some defunct, though again, back-catalogues are useful. <i>Some</i> YouTube videos approach this, though these tend to be lectures or presentations, occasionally conversations. The less advertising, the higher the content quality (more below).<p>- Wikipedia and several related wiki-type sites. Wikipedia and RationalWiki are amongst my favourites. Wikipedia has become my preferred option for reading up on &#x2F; understanding current news, particularly complex and developing stories. I&#x27;d first come to this realisation during the 2004 Boxing Day Indian Ocean Tsunami and Earthquake, in which I watched the article develop from a first mention of a strong quake to the present multi-page form. Very few news organisations can even come close, and Brad Plummer&#x27;s coverage of the Oroville Dam failure (whilst he was at <i>Vox</i>) is among the few favourable comparisons I can make. Wikis digest multiple sources into a single, usually coherent, generally current, whole. Note that not all wikis are created equal, though the major mainstream ones tend to be quite good.<p>- Reputable news sources. The <i>less frequently</i> updated (e.g., quarterly, monthly, weekly) the better. Time resolves many early question and filters much churn. Finding several sources from several locations is quite useful. If you&#x27;re interested in learning or improving a foreign language, reading or listening to news in another language can be handy.<p>- Specific authors&#x27; blogs or article archives. Keep in mind that an authors&#x27; <i>best</i> work is typically what they&#x27;ve published, and many <i>good</i> writers have <i>really poor</i> blogs, websites, or far more often, Twitter or other social media feeds. There are exceptions, and those are what I&#x27;m pointing at. Note that this is five notches below that primary content: books.<p>- Broadcast news. Daily news has some of the least durable value of any information. Being aware of a five-minute headline summary is almost always sufficient. I typically rate radio over television and noncommercial &#x2F; public broadcasting over private. I&#x27;ve never owned a television and haven&#x27;t watched <i>anything</i> in years. I&#x27;ve all but entirely curtailed <i>radio</i> listening.<p>- Generally: avoid media which include or are supported by advertising. Ads have a reverse Midas touch: they turn everything to shit. See Hamilton Holt&#x27;s 1909 book <i>Commercialism and Journalism</i> for an early succinct argument as to why. &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.org&#x2F;details&#x2F;commercialismjou00holtuoft" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.org&#x2F;details&#x2F;commercialismjou00holtuoft</a>&gt;. There&#x27;s a larger literature: &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;dredmorbius&#x2F;comments&#x2F;7k7l4m&#x2F;media_advertising_sustainability_externalities&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;dredmorbius&#x2F;comments&#x2F;7k7l4m&#x2F;media_a...</a>&gt;.<p>- Online discussions. Most are poor. A very few are modestly useful. HN is among the best I know presently. I did some informal research in 2015 identifying where more substantive discussions might be found, with some interesting findings. See &quot;Tracking the Conversation&quot; &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;dredmorbius&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3hp41w&#x2F;tracking_the_conversation_fp_global_100_thinkers&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;dredmorbius&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3hp41w&#x2F;trackin...</a>&gt;. A similar methodology utilising other indicia (I&#x27;ve done some initial exploration based on philosophers) might be interesting or useful.<p>- Large-scale social media. Conversation scales poorly, and larger social media fail in many, many regards. Even intelligent people are often highly incoherent and&#x2F;or generate far too many &#x2F; off-topic posts or comments. Facebook is also all but entirely external-search opaque. I will occasionally use Nitter to either catch up on specific Twitter profiles (often via RSS), <i>or</i> to search some <i>present</i> topic of interest. Replies all but entirely <i>detract</i> from the overall informational value in most cases. Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, etc. Reddit is virtually always useless, though there are occasional exceptions. The site&#x27;s dynamics are actively anti-conversation-generative. Subreddits &gt; 10k subscribers tend to fall tremendously in quality. Conversation scales poorly.<p>- Tabloid &#x2F; outrage &#x2F; promotional &#x2F; SEO press. Crap used to either spread propaganda or sell ads, but I repeat myself. Block at your router. E.g., Daily Mail.<p>Once you&#x27;ve found useful information, find where those are being discussed <i>significantly, intelligently, and non-polemically</i>. You&#x27;ll find in general that this is exceedingly rare.<p>There&#x27;s a recurring trope in fiction and myth of the guru on the mountaintop. There&#x27;s a reason for that.<p>If you want to talk to a guru, first sort out who that is. Then find their mountain. It&#x27;s usually their book.<p>________________________________<p>Notes:<p>1. My own for over a decade has been &quot;what are the big problems&quot;. Exploring potential candidates, what those are, what they&#x27;re founded in, and how they interrelate could occupy many lifetimes.<p>2. &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.worldcat.org&#x2F;title&#x2F;300152756" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.worldcat.org&#x2F;title&#x2F;300152756</a>&gt;
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gardenfelder超过 2 年前
Interesting fact ~5 hours into this story: lemonade5117 has yet to enter the conversation. Seems to me that there really is not enough information to evaluate the query: would help to know more about his&#x2F;her goals and interests.
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luantrindade超过 2 年前
You have an opportunity in each corner if you allow yourself to see it!
ktpecot超过 2 年前
Could try checking out bigger blogs that you like and joining their discord for better&#x2F;more stimulating interactions than comments. Also if you’re in a big enough city Less Wrong and EA probably have in person meetups. If they don’t they have a lot of resources for starting them.
bvoq超过 2 年前
Go to a local Hackerspace if you find one.<p>4chan &#x2F;g and &#x2F;sci will certainly challenge you, if you challenge them. 3b1b discord group is also nice. Lesswrong and starslatecodex are nice for blogging.
cblockdude超过 2 年前
Until recently, this was very difficult to do. Only now with the mainstream emergence of blockchain, this has become easy. Blockchain is the smartest idea. Smart people are everyone now and accessible. You just need to sign a smart contract with them and start interacting. In no time, you will be smart too. And the good thing about blockchain is that your oppressive goverments cant control it, which means they can&#x27;t stop you from becoming smart.
julienreszka超过 2 年前
Don&#x27;t hesitate to reach out, people answer more often than you would think and you risk about nothing
danielmarkbruce超过 2 年前
Non-fiction books. The Economist.
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hunglee2超过 2 年前
join online communities at random and learn why people think they way they do. Particularly seek out those communities whose opinions puzzle you.