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Jetbrains Space

269 点作者 solalf超过 2 年前

27 条评论

wiradikusuma超过 2 年前
We use Space due to GitLab&#x27;s recent pricing changes.<p>We like:<p>- free git hosting<p>- free slack-like with sub-thread<p>- generous CI&#x2F;CD<p>- built-in issue tracker<p>- built-in wiki<p>- very snappy<p>- has mobile app<p>We don&#x27;t like:<p>- CI&#x2F;CD script uses Kotlin DSL, feels &quot;heavy&quot;.<p>- Issue tracker very basic, we end up using YouTrack. Still don&#x27;t know how to integrate it lol.<p>- One project can have multiple repos, but they all share same permission. So we end up creating multiple projects e.g. mobile app, web, backend.<p>- Regarding multiple projects.. we end up creating another project just to contain wiki.<p>- Cannot trigger based on tag. We end up creating branch for different environment.<p>- Difficulty in writing CI&#x2F;CD script due to limited documentation&#x2F;knowledge on the net and unfriendly keyword (&quot;space&quot;? Lol. You have to type &quot;Jetbrains space automation (keyword here)&quot;<p>- At certain times VERY slow.<p>- Notifications in Mobile App sometimes not working.<p>We find confusing:<p>- Calendar<p>- Video call<p>Confusing because why add more features that&#x27;s already best served by other services?
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graypegg超过 2 年前
I have actually used Spaces on a small side project with some friends up until a few months ago! It does seem to have improved since then, but when I was using it the project management&#x2F;jira-ish features were pretty weak. Basically just tickets with IDs, that you could assign a status. It worked well for our little project but I wouldn’t be able to use it on a larger project. (Things like ticket relations and sub tasks that aren’t just check lists become pretty important imo to not losing things, vs just having everything be a free floating ticket)<p>The git host and PR management system is well built, and was by far the highlight of using it. It works really well, and I much preferred their model of PRs being just a message thread under the hood, so notifications show up in one spot and remain open and findable, in comparison to GitHub where I tend to lose PRs that I have already reviewed&#x2F;interacted with once.<p>We never used the documents&#x2F;confluence portion of the app, but it seemed capable at first glance, though if I was asked to pick a space to keep structured docs, I’d probably still use something like notion.
yewenjie超过 2 年前
I don&#x27;t use any Jetbrains product and I have no idea how well-executed this is, but I am pleased to see a relatively smaller company competing against the almost monopoly of Microsoft&#x27;s VS Code and GitHub.
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kevmo314超过 2 年前
I tried it out a bit, the integrations feel really lacking. For example, the teams section is cool, but it can&#x27;t sync with GSuite or Rippling (or anyone, for that matter), so I have to maintain essentially two sources of truth. Same with calendar, Space won&#x27;t sync with anyone else, but it doesn&#x27;t have the ability to invite external users or add video conferencing details. Pretty much the only functional integration seems to be with Github.<p>This feels like a &quot;jack of all trades, master of none&quot; kind of situation. I love the premise, but integrations are going to make or break this for me. Admittedly, that&#x27;s the hardest part to build.
nightowl_games超过 2 年前
It seems like a daunting task for Space to actually deliver on all it&#x27;s promises, but Jetbrains has an extremely high amount of credibility with developers. I want to believe in this product, as I want competition against VSCode and Slack.
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cmrdporcupine超过 2 年前
I suspect a lot of the success of this will hinge on how friendly it is to tools outside the Jetbrains ecosystem. In particular VSCode. On my team in our little startup doing Rust it&#x27;s sort of 50&#x2F;50 CLion vs VSCode. And in many ways we&#x27;re getting okayish value out of just GitHub + Notion + Google Docs.<p>I&#x27;m a big Jetbrains fanboy and an IntelliJ user since the 3.x days. I hope it works out for them.
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mgaw超过 2 年前
It seems they are deprecating their standalone code review tool Upsource in favor of the code review tool that&#x27;s integrated into Space.<p>Upsource is nice because it allows opening a review for a set of commits which aren&#x27;t necessarily continuous. This way, multiple people can work on the same branch at the same time, and open a review for their respective commits afterwards. You don&#x27;t need to wait for your coworker to have their review approved and their branch merged before you can start building on their work.<p>As far as I know, the other popular review tools (e.g. Github pull requests) only support reviews for entire branches.<p>Does anybody know another review tool which allows commit-based reviews as Upsource and Space do?
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sod超过 2 年前
All in one solutions always look super nice when they first come out, as they can shortcut to just implement all the best practices that most people do right now and look very clean by omitting all the weird edge cases. But give it a couple of years, and you are stuck with a slow moving monolith. That jetbrains fleet - a year after the announcement - is still in closed beta shows that they aren&#x27;t really setup to move quickly.<p>But from a business perspective this seems like a good move. There is no competition for such a complete package? Email seems to be missing though. And even if your software is closed source, what if you want to open source parts of it for exposure and talent acquisition?
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lozenge超过 2 年前
It looks beautiful in the video demo, I just wonder whether integrations will let it down.<p>GitHub integrates with any code coverage, code quality, security scanning, or CI solution out there.<p>Slack similarly integrates with any on-call system, time tracking system, code host...<p>Sure Jetbrains Space has provided the API, webhooks and SDK, but most teams want to focus on their application itself? It feels a lot &quot;safer&quot; to go with a service that isn&#x27;t trying to offer everything and then pick and choose. Slack+GitHub+CI of the month+code quality plugin of the month+anything...
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dixie_land超过 2 年前
Jetbrains pivots towards integrated solutions unfortunately reminds me of the demise of Delphi when Borland moved to &quot;ALM&quot;. Hopefully IntelliJ fares better
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ilovecaching超过 2 年前
I find this shift to paid, online code editors and IDEs very dystopian. The last thing I want to do is rely on a proprietary non-free tool that I need internet to access, can not only gather telemetry about my usage, but also all my code… At some point people have to decide that privacy and freedom are more important than some level of convenience. For me that line is already crossed.
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sghiassy超过 2 年前
It’s like a boatcar. A boat and a car, rolled into one. What could go wrong
jpalomaki超过 2 年前
Interesting that they are also offering on-prem option for Space [1], currently in beta.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jetbrains.com&#x2F;space&#x2F;download&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jetbrains.com&#x2F;space&#x2F;download&#x2F;</a>
mbaris超过 2 年前
Looks really cool but I think they are being overly ambitious with how much they are trying to do.
tasubotadas超过 2 年前
Has anybody actually tried it? Anyone willing to share their experiences?<p>The tools looks extremely promising for smaller teams that just want to get the whole thing going with minimal config
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RitKun1122超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve canceled my Jetbrains subscription this year after about 10 years. While Goland is gold, Webstorm was a constant source of issues and annoyances. VS Code is light years ahead in the JS world supporting Vue (Volar), Svelte, Tailwind - to name a few. In Webstorm, essential bugs &#x2F; missing feature are open for years. Fixing Tailwind support took ages - no idea if it&#x27;s working properly now.<p>After switching to VS Code I found that almost everything you get with Jetbrains IDEs is available (often better) as a VS Code extension. The only area where Jetbrain has an edge is their integration with DataGrip, which is brilliant. But then, turned out DataGrip doesn&#x27;t support the recent SQLite version. The answer from the Jetbrains support was a link to an open source repo that was not maintained anymore (or for a period of time - who knows). That&#x27;s what I go after paying for 10 years for their ultimate package.<p>Now I&#x27;m a more than happy VS Code user. The only thing I really miss is DataGrip.<p>Instead of fixing their core products, they&#x27;re creating new ones like Space. That is of course legitimate. They have all the right in the world trying to make more money. But it won&#x27;t be my money.
sebazzz超过 2 年前
It is very unfortunate that they killed Upsource and the recommend Space as an alternative. It is like recommending a Swiss pocket knife as a replacement for a screwdriver. A screwdriver that is much easier and comfortable to handle.<p>Being a long-time customer of Jetbrains they didn&#x27;t even want to offer a license so we could temporarily extend our Upsource license while searching for an alternative. Even not though we offered to pay for it.
severino超过 2 年前
Things like the Git hosting provided by this Space thing sounded pretty good for EU-based users, as Jetbrains is a company registered in the Czech Republic.<p>Unfortunately, their FAQ on privacy states that all of the data will be stored in Amazon AWS, so from the privacy perspective this is no improvement over Github or Gitlab.
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noisy_boy超过 2 年前
What I really want is a workflow for managing change requests (CRs) that is tightly integrated with Github and Jira. ServiceNow is super clunky (you can&#x27;t even have markdown in the fields to provide some decent formatting) and the copy-pasting of links gets tiring very fast.
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Koshkin超过 2 年前
Indeed, the process of how software is developed by a large team is different from how it is done by a small team, which in turn is also different from the workflow followed by an individual developer. The larger the team, the more indispensable the tools integration becomes (speaking as a user of Microsoft Teams&#x2F;Azure DevOps).
lumost超过 2 年前
Curious what folks use for &quot;all-in-one&quot; development? I&#x27;m increasingly finding that I don&#x27;t have the time&#x2F;inclination to learn yet another tool for getting basic work done. I&#x27;ve loved working with AWS copilot, and I want to use something like space - but curious what folks have found.
dzikimarian超过 2 年前
We were waiting for the on prem version to give it a run. Sadly pricing structure is completely different than other Jetbrains products and tbh - crazy expensive. I hope it isn&#x27;t beginning of transition to overpriced SaaSes everyone else offers.
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lobota超过 2 年前
The chats, calendars and CI&#x2F;CD into one is top for our team. Really can help us stop using multiple tabs and tools
wseqyrku超过 2 年前
Overall looks like GitLab and YouTrack. Both have awful UI.<p>GH which I&#x27;m most comfortable with looks like neither.
lastdong超过 2 年前
Jetbrains is so good, it scares me they’ll become the next microsoft.
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lopatin超过 2 年前
Someone&#x27;s already working on an Eclipse plugin.
brap超过 2 年前
Seems cool, but the demo video is so corporation-y it&#x27;s comical. When they said &quot;experience synergy and convergence throughout the system&quot; I almost thought it was satire.
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