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The sports footage you won't see on TV this Thanksgiving

162 点作者 brownie超过 13 年前

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keeptrying超过 13 年前
You can figure out whats happening on the field just from what they show on TV. I wrote an answer on quora on how to do this:<p>What I enjoy in a football game is understanding the strategy thats being carried out and the efficiency of execution on every play. I've broken down a list of positions/schemes/plays to look for below.<p>The following applies when watching a regular play from scrimmage - ie one that will be either a run or a pass.<p>_The offense_<p>1. First pick out the number of tight ends and their position on the offensive line. This will tell you what base formation the offense is "telegraphing" to the defense. 2 or more tight ends implies that the offense is showing "run" unless its the damn Patriots of 2010.<p>2. Look at where the running backs are - the full back and the half back. This along with the above, will give you an idea of whether the offense is hedging towards a run or a pass. If they are in line, in front of the QB then you can safely assume a pass or trick play.<p>3. Next the formation of the wide recievers. Are they split, with a slot or are they bunched on one side.<p>_The defense_<p>1. Due to camera angles you wont be able to see some of the players on the defense. But its okay because you can workout where they would be (except for how deep they are playing) based on the offensive formation.<p>2. The rectangular area in front of the offensive line is called "the box". This is where the running back is expected to try to make a run. Count the number of players in the box. A fast way is to group the players in 3s going from bottom edge of the offensive line to the top.<p>The number of players in the box will tell you what the defense is showing the offense. If the number of players is &#62;=8 then the defense is expecting a run.<p>Using the following formula, you'll be able to figure out the number of safeties.<p>Number of safeties = 11 - (the number of players in the box + the number of wider receivers on offense )<p>_Position of the safeties_<p>* 2 Safeties<p>If you've figured out there are two safeties then this implies that the defense is looking to take away big passing plays but give up the middle of the field. This will usually be a cover-2 formation or a derivative. If you see that a line-backer is cheating towards the safeties then you know its tampa-2.<p>* 1 Safety<p>If there's only one single safety then this usually means that the defense is being aggressive, ie they want to blitz, or are showing that they are expecting a run.<p>_Blitz_<p>If the number of players on the line of scrimmage for the defense outnumbers the number of players on the offensive and in the vicinity of the QB then this implies the defense is showing a blitz. Picking out the blitzing player is a lot of fun when watching the Jets, Eagles or Ravens play.<p>Player in motion<p>On a passing play, most teams will use the player in motion to figure out if the defense is in zone or man coverage. (They are mostly always in zones but do use man coverage to shake things up.)<p>So as the offensive player in motion moves, watch who covers him. Does he get handed off from one player to another on the defense or does the same defensive player follow him as he moves from one side of the field to the next. If the same player moves to cover the man in motion then it usually implies that the defense is playing a man-coverage. If the man in motion is handed off between players then this usually implies a zone.<p>Of course there could be special cases in which the defense chooses man/zone depending on which player is in motion at the time of the snap.<p>_Exercises_<p>How do you know if your seeing/understanding enough of the action:<p>1. On regular plays you should be able to see the "hold penalty" at the same time as it happens and before the commentator explains it on TV.<p>2. You should be able to call some percentage of the plays as you get familiar with understanding the strategy your team plays as well as the play callers idiosyncrasies and the players who get the most attention on the team.<p>3. Figure out if the defense is in a zone or man coverage. This will take a while because most defenses dont run a scheme which is instantly recognizable.<p>As you enjoy more aspects of the game, you'll realize the true brilliance of Peyton Manning, the genius of Rex Ryan and you'll be baffled by how precise these NFL plays are.<p>These are the basics and there is so much more happening on the field. If you have any questions then please ask them here and I'll update this answer.
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loso超过 13 年前
I have always been a football fan but when I was in college I lived in the Football dorm and it changed how I saw the game forever. (Back story, I lived in those dorms because I'm a big guy and the coach wanted me to play for the team. I told him yeah because I noticed that at registration all of the Football players were able to skip in line. I never did play because I loved Basketball more than Football at the time).<p>Anyway, when you live around Football players 24/7 you start to learn facets of the game that you never knew about. You learn what every position is doing on every play and why they are doing it.Now when I watch Football it is more like a game of chess than a brutal grudge match. The real excitement in the game comes from watching the linemen and not the skilled positions.<p>On another side note, you would think that all of this football knowledge would help actual players when playing Madden (That was all that was played in those dorms. Hours and hours of Madden). It does but only to a certain extent. Football players take Madden too literally and try to play it as a simulation. They forget the video game part. I would use that to my advantage all of the time.
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flyt超过 13 年前
Here's the NFL survey asking fans if they would like access to this footage for a fee: <a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9FXQC3D" rel="nofollow">https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9FXQC3D</a><p>In case it gets pulled, here's the attached image: <a href="http://cl.ly/3e1m1b0x1L410V0I1i0h" rel="nofollow">http://cl.ly/3e1m1b0x1L410V0I1i0h</a><p>The poll says "The NFL is evaluating an online streaming product providing consumers with exclusive Coaches Film footage of all 22 players on the field for every play and game."<p>The whole survey: <a href="http://cl.ly/1Q3R0h1L161b3J1a2J3u" rel="nofollow">http://cl.ly/1Q3R0h1L161b3J1a2J3u</a>
bumbledraven超过 13 年前
Good article on the subject in Slate, from 2007: "The NFL's Perplexing Refusal To Help Fans Understand the Game"<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/features/2007/how_to_watch_pro_football/the_nfls_perplexing_refusal_to_help_fans_understand_the_game.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/features/200...</a><p>A bit more from Football Outsiders: <a href="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2006/too-deep-zone-big-jaworski" rel="nofollow">http://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2006/too-deep-z...</a>
mechanical_fish超过 13 年前
I used to watch NHL hockey when I was a kid. Then I started going to college hockey games, and that was great, but a terrible side effect is that I've never been able to enjoy TV hockey in quite the same way. Those players off the screen are <i>really important</i>.<p>The advent of HDTV has done a lot to fix this for hockey, where the rink is not so huge. But it would be awesome to have full-field perspective on football.
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josephcooney超过 13 年前
What's the reason for keeping the footage out of the public's hands? "Proprietary NFL coaching information" doesn't really explain it. Are the NFL making money off the teams by cutting them a special deal of All-22 footage of their own games, and opponents?
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ja2ke超过 13 年前
If college or Canadian football started doing it and fans responded extremely positively and started asking for/expecting it elsewhere, that could force the NFL's hand a bit. The XFL's crazy wire camera rigs almost immediately made their way into the NFL, so there's at least a little precedent.
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ghshephard超过 13 年前
Seems like there's an opportunity here - how difficult would it be for a fan to video / stream the "all-22" from high angle (read nosebleed) seats? I've brought my Laptop and SLR into football and baseball games (Oakland), so they aren't that strict about allowing media/comms equipment in.
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mnutt超过 13 年前
It sounds extremely challenging, but could someone use image detection to process the existing camera angles and use the field markers to recreate an overhead view of the game? If it worked, you could probably use that to do some interesting play analyses over a large number of games.
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malbs超过 13 年前
I'd be willing to have a stab that the people who really don't want the public with this footage are the sports bookies offering point spreads/line betting.<p>The bookmakers would already have access to this footage, because it is a competitive edge over the public. If the public suddenly had access to the all 22, there might be a correction in those betting markets.<p>And if the bookmakers don't have access to the footage? Could be an opportunity to capitalise on their in-efficiency ;)
jsight超过 13 年前
Does anyone else just see this as them gauging interest in charging for this footage? Some of the wording almost makes it sound like a market segmentation strategy.
yewtree超过 13 年前
end zone view would be good too.
1010101111001超过 13 年前
Well, this is why NFL Films and the old programs they produced in the 70's and 80's are so cool. NFL Films had it all. Every angle, every sound plus the all-22. They could do the full analysis. And their choice of music was, in retrospect, brilliant. I can watch those old programs year after year. Somehow I never get tired of them.<p>Now we have ESPN.<p>Hats off to keeptrying. You are a true fan.
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mekarpeles超过 13 年前
I won't see this sports footage this Thanksgiving because I will be programming and reading the hacker news articles related to hacking.
tobych超过 13 年前
This reads like a dark parody of life on earth as we know it. Finally put me off American Football for life, too.