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Framework Laptop 2.5Gbps Ethernet Expansion Card

266 点作者 Lukas_Skywalker超过 2 年前

22 条评论

herpderperator超过 2 年前
Mixing 1Gbps, 2.5Gbps and 10Gbps has sort of been a nightmare for me on Mikrotik at least. My WAN port is 2.5Gbps and you would expect that I get full speed 112MB&#x2F;s Internet on the 1Gbps LAN ports, but that only happens if I force the WAN port to negotiate at 1Gbps. If I leave it at 2.5Gbps, then I get something like 50MB&#x2F;s instead, and it oscillates +- &gt;20MB&#x2F;s during the life of that TCP connection.<p>I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s entirely a Mikrotik issue as I believe this is just a physics thing - you&#x27;re firing off one port at a certain speed so the buffer of the other port fills up too quickly unless the faster one slows down (resulting in excessive packet loss.) But it looks like Mikrotik has the most complaints about this.<p>The solution appears to be to enable Flow Control, but it&#x27;s never clear in which direction or which port it needs to be enabled on, and I haven&#x27;t really had any success with any combination.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forum.mikrotik.com&#x2F;viewtopic.php?t=182691" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forum.mikrotik.com&#x2F;viewtopic.php?t=182691</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forum.mikrotik.com&#x2F;viewtopic.php?t=181881" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forum.mikrotik.com&#x2F;viewtopic.php?t=181881</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;mikrotik&#x2F;comments&#x2F;rq7ytu&#x2F;rb5009_25gbe_slower_than_1gbe&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;mikrotik&#x2F;comments&#x2F;rq7ytu&#x2F;rb5009_25g...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;mikrotik&#x2F;comments&#x2F;rza5u3&#x2F;slow_multigigi_performance_on_rb5009&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;mikrotik&#x2F;comments&#x2F;rza5u3&#x2F;slow_multi...</a>
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pram超过 2 年前
The fact that it sticks out on the side made me realize these Framework dongles are basically neo-PCMCIA cards lol<p>I wonder why there was never a standardized PCIE &#x27;card&#x27; format? Seems like the perfect thing for extra storage with NVME being so common these days.
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bryanlarsen超过 2 年前
I really hope that this form factor catches on. It&#x27;s actually possible, since there&#x27;s no chicken and egg problem -- this card can be used on any computer. It works better in a Framework laptop, but it&#x27;s just another dongle on others. Hopefully a big manufacturer notices and starts using it.
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chadash超过 2 年前
Nice! Except I see that ethernet is a bit too large to fit the body, so this hangs a bit off of the side.<p>Is there an advantage to this over an external ethernet to USB-C adapter (e.g. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Anker-Ethernet-Portable-1-Gigabit-Chromebook&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B00ZZ6NW5E" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Anker-Ethernet-Portable-1-Gigabit-Chr...</a>)? These days, I find that when using my laptop at home, a decent USB-C hub&#x2F;dock is pretty much a pre-requisite given the number of things I need to connect (for me, monitor + mouse + keyboard + webcam + webcam light) and many of these have ethernet adapters built in anyway (which I don&#x27;t personally use since my WiFi is fast enough).
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VyseofArcadia超过 2 年前
All I want from Framework is an ARM motherboard.<p>It seems crazy to me that the only way to get a Linux ARM laptop that isn&#x27;t essentially a Raspberry Pi (or equivalent) is to buy a Mac.<p>I&#x27;d be happy to be wrong about this. If I am, please let me know where I can spend my money.
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humanistbot超过 2 年前
I am 100% on board with the repairability, sustainability, and compatibility mission of Framework, but I absolutely hate the way they did these choices of only 4 expansion cards. A Thinkpad T14 Gen 3 [1] is 2mm thicker than the Framework, but has more than enough room for an RJ-45 ethernet port, 2 USB-C ports, 2 USB-A ports, 1 HDMI, a SD card slot, and a smartcard reader (maybe an edge case, but still). That&#x27;s 8 ports, plus the headphone jack that is built in to both. If I bought a framework, I&#x27;d need to carry multiple expansion cards to have those same connectivity options, plus that RJ45 is going to stick out and probably wouldn&#x27;t be good to put in a bag while attached to the laptop. I see so much hype about Framework, but does this seem wrong to anyone else?<p>Edit: Since this got a lot of replies, I do get the benefits of an expansion slot. Put one on each side, that should be plenty. But fill the rest of the laptop with the usual set of ports in a motherboard that I can easily repair.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lenovo.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;en&#x2F;p&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;thinkpad&#x2F;thinkpadt&#x2F;thinkpad-t14-gen-3-(14-inch-intel)&#x2F;len101t0014" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lenovo.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;en&#x2F;p&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;thinkpad&#x2F;thinkpadt&#x2F;th...</a>
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scrlk超过 2 年前
Would be a good application for the folding RJ45 port as previously seen on Fujitsu Lifebooks: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;M7fcJM6iunA?t=125" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;M7fcJM6iunA?t=125</a>
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happyopossum超过 2 年前
Apparently I’m in the minority of commenters here, but man is that U-G-L-Y. I really really would be not want to have that non-matching hunk of plastic sticking out of my laptop all the time.<p>I also have to wonder at the longevity of that design - it’s gonna hang up every time you shove it in a backpack, I’d be concerned about the port hole cracking at some stress points.
byefruit超过 2 年前
A bit sad this is arriving just as I&#x27;m getting ready to return my 12th gen Framework.<p>Really wanted to keep it but it arrived with a litany of quality control issues. Most of those are probably fixable with replacement parts but I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s anything that can be done about the screen wobble.<p>A laptop I can&#x27;t actually use on my lap..
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spamizbad超过 2 年前
What a slick little dongle. Much nicer than the awkward wired ones.
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eikenberry超过 2 年前
Does the RTL8156 suffer from the same overheating problems many (all?) of their other ethernet chips have?
Arubis超过 2 年前
Is there anything Framework-specific about this other than the form factor? That is, could I just plug this into any old Thunderbolt port on another laptop and have it fire up?
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zinekeller超过 2 年前
&gt; RTL8156<p>I never have a good experience with Realtek networking chipsets, especially on 2.5Gbps.
yata69420超过 2 年前
Every time I see one of these frame.work posts, it looks like they&#x27;re doing so much right. I can&#x27;t wait to buy into their ecosystem.<p>How long until 120hz+ displays?
justahuman74超过 2 年前
My (primitive) sense of fashion wishes it matched the plastic color of the other expansions, rather than the clear plastic
fiat_fandango超过 2 年前
Well now I want a Framework laptop - granted, what I&#x27;d use this for is uploading media to youtube etc, and for now free options just aren&#x27;t as good as Final Cut Pro or Premiere so I&#x27;ll be sticking to my usb-c to 2.5G adapter for my macbook pro. Someday though!
greyhair超过 2 年前
I like the stuff that Frame is doing, but I don&#x27;t like the way that jack sticks out. I would be happier plugging a dongle into a USB-C port, when I needed it, than having that &#x27;nub&#x27; hanging out all the time.
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sschueller超过 2 年前
I want a SFP28 slot. Then I can put it what I want&#x2F;need.
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boldlybold超过 2 年前
Can this plug into an existing USB-C port on the laptop? When I don&#x27;t need it on the go, that would be easier for docking at my desk.
jonathantf2超过 2 年前
Bought it, not happy about the high shipping fee though. Wonder if it&#x27;ll be coming from Taiwan like the laptop did.
dusted超过 2 年前
45 eurodollars for a fcking laptop nic ? yeah okay.
mavu超过 2 年前
this is going to be the next laptop I buy.<p>Or something similar if anyone else gets with the programme and stops to produce for the landfill.