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The UX of Porn Tube Sites Are Designed for the Ultimate Money Shot

160 点作者 chha超过 2 年前

14 条评论

thomastjeffery超过 2 年前
The worst thing about data driven UX - especially with porn - is that it&#x27;s often a self fulfilling prophecy. Trends that are likely side-effects are considered to be primary factors driving engagement.<p>With porn, it&#x27;s usually a fetish that is only moderately popular, but broadly unoffensive. Because the average person who isn&#x27;t <i>specifically</i> interested in the fetish isn&#x27;t turned off by it either, that fetish gets more positive engagement relative to other fetishes; which drives studios to make more of it, and tube sites to advertise it more.<p>This pattern likely started with foot fetish, but really took off over the last few years with &quot;step sibling&quot; porn.<p>No one I&#x27;ve talked to is actually interested in the step-sibling fetish, yet the overwhelming majority of content being made and advertised - especially by mainstream studios and well-known actors - is step-sibling themed. Why? Because these studios are deciding what to make based on what&#x27;s popular on pornhub, and what&#x27;s popular on pornhub is literally anything these studios make. I sincerely doubt that they would see a drop in engagement if they diversified, but trends in data will never drive diversity faster than they drive convergence, because convergence is essentially the goal of data driven production in the first place.<p>It&#x27;s also worth noting that the near-monopoly status of Mindgeek in the casual porn streaming industry has amplified this pattern. Their recent decision to stop hosting unverified content - good or bad - has had a pretty serious side-effect on the singular greatest driving factor of internet porn: piracy.<p>If a porn studio or independent actor doesn&#x27;t want their content floating around pornhub, they can simply refuse to post it. Anyone who wants to upload a copy without their consent will fail verification.<p>So now, the only content being shared on pornhub is what <i>creators</i> hope will be interesting, and never what <i>consumers</i> want to share.<p>Most new competitive content creators are more concerned about getting paid than getting advertised because they don&#x27;t have the financial buffer that established studios have; so they are less likely to put their content on pornhub, and less likely to by found by the casual consumer.
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latchkey超过 2 年前
I built the IT infrastructure for one of the largest hardcore porn sites out there.<p>When we did a complete rebuild of it (because it was in horrible PHP code), we tried to do a redesign and the CEO of the company made us change it back.<p>Why? Because it was too nice and the UX was too good.<p>He told us that his customers actually appreciated a more &#x27;dirty&#x27; and &#x27;raw&#x27; feel to the site. It is porn after all!<p>So, we went back to the drawing board and did just that... many of the changes we made to the UX were reverted to intentionally make things a bit harder to use and make the site feel more &#x27;dirty&#x27;... which is funny given the content was already super dirty.
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denton-scratch超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s not surprising that all the porn websites the author mentions have a similar design; they&#x27;re all owned and run by the same company, Mindgeek.
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hackernewds超过 2 年前
Callous comparison.<p>Take a step back and imagine what success, and reflection of good rankings algos would be on these sites. Longer engagement times and multiple videos (+ads) for YouTube. Shorter time on site and less videos for Pornhub.<p>The interfaces would be designed accordingly with those end goals in mind.
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godmode2019超过 2 年前
I had a friend once tell me that porn was the driving force for innovation on the internet.<p>Firstly getting the speeds up to load images, then videos with buffering then 4k, then VR.<p>The design features and business model of porn sites is years ahead of anything else, for a reason these sites up until very recently were the majority of bandwith over the Internet.<p>A business model you will start to see more which is very common in porn is to use the streaming site as advertising to your paid membership site.<p>You release 10min clip of say a podcast and to watch the rest you need to join the members only site. As YouTube partner programme gets worse and rules about what content get more strict you will see a drive to only using YouTube as a marketing tool to get people behind the pay wall.
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mtnGoat超过 2 年前
I think the author is being too generous.<p>The layouts were designed over a decade ago and most tubes sites just copied YouTube for a layout, assuming They know what they were doing when they designed it. Or copied other existing tube sites’ layouts. A lot of these sites started by using an out of the box software that has a prebuilt back then as well. The designs weren’t changed because why would you change a horse that’s winning you many millions per month? Plus everyone was afraid of changing anything that might hurt their seo ranking.<p>Source: worked in that industry for over a decade and know&#x2F;knew many of the decision makers at these companies. They weren’t that strategic, I assure you.
mccorrinall超过 2 年前
How is the pornhub interface different from youtube‘s?
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Chris2048超过 2 年前
Interesting how, in attempt to make the article on this topic more SFW, they decided to replace thumbs of actual porn with hand-painted representations..
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globular-toast超过 2 年前
NSFW or recovering porn addicts. Wish I hadn&#x27;t clicked.
stavros超过 2 年前
I have the same issue with this as other commenters here: The article says that porn sites are designed to maximize engagement. As opposed to what, other video sites?
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manv1超过 2 年前
Search for the definitive article about porn and technology:<p>porn, the slow-slung engine of progress<p>Gutenberg might have printed the bible, but he made is money off of porn.
OrderlyTiamat超过 2 年前
The top&#x2F;title banner on this site displayed &gt; 30% of my mobile screen. I&#x27;m just noting this before reading, as the topic is website UX ... (e: it&#x27;s much better when in portrait mode, I just happened to be browsing landscape)
s1mon超过 2 年前
The byline says July 2022, but the errata says “This article was updated with corrections on August 13, 2019”… hmmm<p>Also possibly NSFW (illustrations of the porn sites).
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pinkwinds超过 2 年前
Why is infinite scrolling not more popular with these sites?
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