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Apache NetBeans 15

95 点作者 obdev超过 2 年前

18 条评论

asdajksah2123超过 2 年前
I wonder how much of the poor traction Apache products gain is a result of the extremely low quality websites Apache projects tend to have.<p>None of the blog that is linked here, Netbeans github page, and the official NetBeans website have a single screenshot of what the application looks like. If you compare that to IntelliJ IDEA&#x27;s website, it&#x27;s filled with screenshots accompanying a writeup promoting the feature displayed in the screenshot.
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faizshah超过 2 年前
I used netbeans in high school when I was learning Java. The WYSIWYG swing editor is really nostalgic for me and helped me a lot, I’m glad to see it’s still active. Netbeans was actually an extremely good editor at the time, it was as good as IntelliJ and better than eclipse (imo).
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lemon_bottle超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s a mind-blowing and efficient IDE. A pity it doesn&#x27;t support android development though otherwise Intellij would be out of business by now!
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noselasd超过 2 年前
Do we have any Netbeans users here ? It would be good to hear abit about the good&#x2F;bad stuff (Thinking Java development mostly). How good&#x2F;bad is it compared to IntelliJ ?
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bitcharmer超过 2 年前
I find it fascinating that there&#x27;s so many Netbeans fans here on HN. Been doing software engineering professionally for 20 years now and ever since IntelliJ started becoming popular around 2005 almost every single dev I have ever worked with couldn&#x27;t look at anything else. I&#x27;ve been through 7 companies and tens of projects and met a single Netbeans enthusiast.<p>These days Jetbrains is just a default option for C&#x2F;C++, Rust (Clion), Python (Pycharm), Java (IntelliJ).<p>Wondering what&#x27;s so specific about HN crowd that makes Netbeans so popular here.
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iampivot超过 2 年前
I think a lot of users jumped ship when it was donated to the apache foundation and no release happened for a very long time.
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Tomte超过 2 年前
&quot;Cannot find Java 1.8 or higher&quot;.<p>It actually works with current Java, but you have to edit a configuration file first!<p>I have no idea why they find that acceptable and still ship it in this state.
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amalcon超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s been a while since I&#x27;ve seen the name NetBeans! It was basically <i>the</i> Java IDE for a little while there, until Eclipse took over. Eclipse basically won because NetBeans used Swing for UI, and Swing was hot garbage back then -- the features were otherwise almost exactly the same.<p>Neat to see the project still hanging on, albeit pretty tenuously.
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whartung超过 2 年前
I&#x27;m a long time NB user, I still use it as my daily driver.<p>The transition to Apache has been tough, but it&#x27;s honestly amazing how well it does. The singular task of just &quot;keeping up with Java&quot; is load enough, much less adding on features. And, indeed, it doesn&#x27;t have any formal sponsorship like it did under Oracle.<p>My singular nit with the project is that they rely a bit on external projects.<p>If there&#x27;s one real power feature to NetBeans is that it&#x27;s a first class Maven IDE. It works really well with maven.<p>Many of the &quot;New Project&quot; wizards are simply wrappers around maven archetypes.<p>But therein lies the rub.<p>Many of those archetypes are NOT &quot;owned&quot; or maintained by the NB project, they&#x27;re 3rd party. You have NB maintained code designed to work with a specific maven archetype maintained by someone else.<p>I appreciate how the team doesn&#x27;t necessarily want to be a domain expert in some specific aspect of the vast Java eco-system. But now you can&#x27;t submit a pull request to the &quot;team&quot;, you have to go to someone else who may, or may not, deem the request worthwhile.<p>So it causes a bit of friction of not having a single source of ownership to various features of the IDE.
kodeninja超过 2 年前
Been out of touch with it, but, IIRC, NB&#x27;s plugin story used to be pretty top notch (hot reload and all). Better than Eclipse and IntelliJ.<p>Geert W used to write a lot of good articles on doing cool and interesting things with NB, and user stories of how it was being used at different companies to build internal tools. Their GUI builder was pretty sweet too, IMO.<p>Glad to see it&#x27;s still around!
bitwize超过 2 年前
NetBeans always struck me as the kind of IDE you would use to get things done in Java, as opposed to Eclipse which seemed to function as a portal into the vast and confusing world of Eclipse plugins.<p>But IntelliJ rules the (Java) world now, so they&#x27;re both obsolete and redundant.
krueger71超过 2 年前
Back in the day I thought Netbeans rocked! Instead of the Lego-like assembly of plugins in Eclipse you got something that worked right out of the box (we&#x27;re talking a 10-15 years ago and focused on Java&#x2F;JEE&#x2F;JSF).
Tomte超过 2 年前
I&#x27;m still sad they killed Ruby support. Netbeans was great for that!
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nsonha超过 2 年前
Back when eclipse was still the king, Netbeans was actually quite a snappy and worthy alternative, especially as an official tool owned by Oracle.
evnix超过 2 年前
tried doing some PHP work on it, it is very light weight &amp; actually good. i tried moving around a few dockable windows and it almost looks and feels like intelliJ. it isn&#x27;t as polished as intelliJ but it is slowly getting there.<p>on a side note, I have also noticed that a lot of programming language communities are likely taken over by intelliJ staff, your post gets shadow banned if you mention other IDEs.
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insane_dreamer超过 2 年前
Was one of the best IDEs for Ruby dev waaay back in the day. I remember using it then. Jetbrains has long overtaken them though.
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adultSwim超过 2 年前
Is there a way to make NetBeans look better?<p>IntelliJ looks so much better than NetBeans or Eclipse
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rawoke083600超过 2 年前
ahh netbeans.... the memory black hole :) Im sure things have improved since then ?
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