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Ask HN: Is avoiding unpaid career prep/learning a viable path when unemployed?

3 点作者 spearingthehead超过 2 年前
About 2 years ago I joined a fairly well-known prep program for software engineers on job interviews. At the time I had been one year without a job and with some 8 years of experience, and this program was recommended to me so I gave it a shot. I did the several weeks-long course and the longer follow-up portion which mainly involves applying to jobs, attending one weekly meeting and checking in with my progress.<p>A year later, still no job offers. Therefore, I ceased doing my follow-up at the end of last year, and this year I really decreased my output for job applications, mainly limiting myself to recruiters. To meet a weekly quota with the interview prep program, I had sent nearly a thousand applications last year. My ratio of applications to interviews was still pretty low with the interview program, so I stopped mass-sending applications.<p>But I also decided to stop doing things towards helping my career on unpaid time, even as I&#x27;m still unemployed. Taking that prep course didn&#x27;t do anything to net me a job offer and I feel I&#x27;ve put in too much of my free time already for not getting any jobs out of it, so why would I want to keep going when it all feels like a gamble? I want to avoid unpaid career building from here on out. Could this still be a viable path? I&#x27;m not going to sign up to anything or do any career-related practice <i>unless</i> a company is paying for it, or otherwise doing it on salaried time. I only make an exception for meetup groups since I count that as socializing and not strictly career-related matters.<p>A job can hire me and pay me to learn, I have no problem with that. On-the-job training is a real thing. But I don&#x27;t consider job searching to be a job, because I&#x27;m not getting paid for it.

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jameshush超过 2 年前
I’ve been learning Chinese for four years. The first two years, I didn’t bother learning to write. I figured it was a waste of my time. Finally, one day I stopped giving myself excuses, and just sat down and grinded out writing characters for three months. On top of that, I took time off in between jobs and paid for a teacher every day.<p>Unsurprisingly, my results were huge.<p>I started applying this mindset to every skill I had a tertiary interest in. Public speaking, marketing, even stand up comedy. Using my own money and any free time I had (tonight I’m meeting with a comedy coach at midnight because of the time zone difference).<p>I know work in a sales engineer (cs degree) role, get to give fun presentations (public speaking&#x2F;comedy), and write the odd blog post (marketing) for the company. All these skills I paid for myself with time and money. But the result is a fun and lucrative career that’s only going to become more fun and lucrative.<p>It sounds like you need a bigger goal. Having a huge goal is a good way to shift your mind from “How do I get paid now” to “How do I get to do what I want to do everyday, and get paid a lot later”
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antasvara超过 2 年前
Is it viable? Probably. Much of the world manages to get jobs without prepping on their free time. With 8 years of experience, it&#x27;s likely that you&#x27;ll be able to find at least <i>some</i> kind of job, even if it isn&#x27;t an ideal fit.<p>Does it slow your career advancement? Yes. Does it decrease your likelihood of finding higher level jobs? Also yes.<p>Ultimately it&#x27;s up to you how you value your free time. There&#x27;s clear value in skill development and interview prep in that it helps you improve your chances of getting a better job.