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Ask HN: How do you compete with “free”?

5 点作者 jd_illa超过 2 年前
Saw a new scheduling product launch on PH today, which basically offers a free version of Calendly&#x27;s paid features.<p>Founders - how do you think about &quot;free&quot; product launches? I&#x27;m testing an idea now, would like to launch it along with pricing so I can validate the pricing&#x2F;willingness to pay along with the idea, but feel like there&#x27;s a lot of pressure to launch new products for &quot;free&quot;.<p>Thoughts?

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PaulHoule超过 2 年前
I find it is very rare that I actually complete a free trial, particularly for something I use for software development at work.<p>(1) It takes a lot of effort, maybe one day to one week, to really evaluate a product and know if it is worth it.<p>(2) That evaluation will feel like wasted time if, at the end, I find the product isn&#x27;t worthwhile<p>(3) It will also feel like wasted time if I decide I like it but my employer decides not to pay for it.<p>If somebody gets paid $100,000 a year and spends a week evaluating something, the &quot;free&quot; trial costs $2000.<p>Thus I am not a believer in free trials.
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tgflynn超过 2 年前
I&#x27;m not a &quot;founder&quot; in any real sense of the word but my feeling is that it depends on what market you&#x27;re targeting. If your goal is to become a billion dollar unicorn, then yeah it&#x27;s going to be tough to beat free because you&#x27;re going to need a huge number of users. On the other hand if you&#x27;re OK with building a small sustainable business to support yourself, family and maybe a small number of employees then I think it&#x27;s possible to target niche markets of people who are willing to pay for a high quality, well designed product that does exactly what they need.<p>For now this is just my working hypothesis, I&#x27;m still far from being in a position to test it.
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necovek超过 2 年前
Launching a free (often restricted by number of users or &quot;beta&quot; for a limited time) version is a way to get users to experience your product and possibly get hooked.<p>It makes the most sense where you expect your actual hosting costs to be symbolic for small-scale users and hope to earn from bigger customers.<p>This practice has been present since the dawn of (software) time — even Microsoft never really bothered with private illegal copies of Windows (or DOS), knowing it will get future customers into the Windows world and they&#x27;ll want Windows at work too.<p>However, going straight up with the paid model has been there forever as well: it mostly depends on your individual market evaluation and existing entrentchment.
smoldesu超过 2 年前
Nothing beats free. Stallman wrote a great essay on this called &quot;Who does that server really serve?&quot;, decrying the redundancy and ultimate futility of building software-as-a-service. You will always be at-risk of being undercut by a free alternative. Selling software is an anti-pattern of computing, you have every right to be afraid of cheaper&#x2F;better products wrecking your shop.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gnu.org&#x2F;philosophy&#x2F;who-does-that-server-really-serve.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gnu.org&#x2F;philosophy&#x2F;who-does-that-server-really-s...</a>
scombridae超过 2 年前
In the same frustrating sense that one broken down car on the highway can ruin everyone&#x27;s commute, one vendor giving away free product can ruin a market. You can blame Stallman, Torvalds, the Java consortium, etc., who realized the only way to compete against Microsoft was price, or more precisely the lack of it.<p>As painful as Microsoft&#x27;s dominance was, the era of shrinked-wrapped cdroms represented a more honest time when what you got was commensurate to what you paid. Now the only game in town is dangling the carrot and selling your customers&#x27; info to advertisers.
Mockapapella超过 2 年前
I simply refuse to play their game (free&#x2F;race to the bottom). This isn&#x27;t always a viable strategy (see stable diffusion vs OpenAI), but when I find myself in one of these situations I shoot for quality instead. The customers will pay, but I will do everything I can to give them a higher quality experience, whatever that entails.
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simonblack超过 2 年前
The only thing that beats &#x27;free&#x27; is &#x27;quality&#x27;.<p>Your product has to be so good that people will clamour to buy it.<p>If your product&#x27;s quality is &#x27;meh&#x27;, &#x27;free&#x27; will beat that every time.
JohnFen超过 2 年前
This is a bit business-model dependent.<p>If you don&#x27;t intend for your product to be free for the rest of its lifetime, don&#x27;t launch it as free.
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codingdave超过 2 年前
With different adjectives = &quot;good&quot;, &quot;stable&quot;, and &quot;supported&quot; are three fairly effective ones.