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Plant-based meat analogues weaken gastrointestinal digestive function in mice

60 点作者 johntfella超过 2 年前

12 条评论

wzdd超过 2 年前
Author affiliations are as follows:<p>&gt; Key Laboratory of Meat Processing and Quality Control, MOE, Key Laboratory of Meat Processing, MARA, Jiangsu Innovative Center of Meat Production, Processing and Quality Control, College of Food Science and Technology, Nanjing Agricultural University, Nanjing 210095, China<p>I&#x27;m not saying the study is wrong. It&#x27;s likely right! I just think it&#x27;s going to be an interesting decade as meat producers apparently now recognise meat alternatives as an existential threat.
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tluyben2超过 2 年前
In mice. No one thinks it applies to humans when it’s promising medicine, so why would this mean anything? It is a question, not trying to say it’s not worth discussing!<p>Wondering what exactly causes this effects in plant based meats as I notice that eating plants (fruits and veg and nuts), at least for me, seems to make my digestive function a lot happier than eating real meat. But I guess happier doesn’t say much about what’s actually going on down there.
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samatman超过 2 年前
I find this plausible, but I think it&#x27;s about powdered proteins generally, or at least many of them.<p>I tolerate dairy well, although I only drink small amounts of sweet milk and cream, eating mostly yogurt and cheese. I like to make strained yogurt &#x2F; labneh, and I&#x27;ll drink the whey by itself (I like pickle and sauerkraut juice as well).<p>But when I add whey powder to a shake for the gainz, my stomach really doesn&#x27;t like that as much. It doesn&#x27;t cause <i>problems</i> or I wouldn&#x27;t eat it, but it&#x27;s just a bit gassy and sometimes irritating.<p>I&#x27;ve noticed much the same thing with the pea-protein based vegan meats. I believe it&#x27;s difficult to extract proteins without denaturing them somewhat, collagen is an exception but not a vegan one.<p>I like eating peas just fine, peas don&#x27;t give me gas and lentils rarely do (that&#x27;s it for me and pulses these days), but the extracted protein, not so much, doesn&#x27;t sit right.
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sfeng超过 2 年前
Couldn&#x27;t you also interpret these results as: meat is hard to digest and requires a lot of work on the part of the gastric system. When you don&#x27;t eat it, the gastric system is able to down-regulate.
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open-source-ux超过 2 年前
I was surprised to learn recently that meat alternatives are classified as &quot;ultra-processed&quot; foods (dairy milk substitutes are also classified as ultra-processed as well).<p>From: <i>What is ultra-processed food?</i> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;food&#x2F;articles&#x2F;what_is_ultra-processed_food" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;food&#x2F;articles&#x2F;what_is_ultra-processed_...</a><p>&gt; Ultra-processed foods usually contain ingredients that you wouldn’t add when cooking homemade food. You may not recognise the names of these ingredients as many will be chemicals, colourings, sweeteners and preservatives.<p>&gt; More surprising to some will be...“other ultra-processed foods”. This includes baked beans, tinned soups, <i>meat alternatives</i>, soy and drinks used as dairy milk substitutes.<p>&gt; It can be tricky to identify food that has been ultra-processed because in some cases the same type of food could be minimally processed, processed or ultra-processed, depending on how it’s been made. For example: Bread made from wheat flour, water, salt and yeast is processed, but add emulsifiers or colourings and it becomes ultra-processed.<p>(My emphasis)
jasonhansel超过 2 年前
I think that this really just shows that the digestive system changes and adapts to a plant-based diet. They haven&#x27;t shown that there are any disadvantages to such changes; for all we know, this is actually beneficial.
forgotmypw17超过 2 年前
I think this is an example of the myriad evolved biological Chesterton&#x27;s fences we&#x27;re only beginning to discover in our bodies.<p>I&#x27;ve personally done as much &quot;de-modernization&quot; as possible in my life and tried to revert to as close of a pre-industrial lifestyle and inputs as I can.
api超过 2 年前
Anything just in mice should be taken with a grain of mouse. Lots of stuff in mice does not replicate in humans. I’m sure the inverse is true too.<p>I really learned this following life extension research. It’s never been a better time to be an aging mouse but for humans the progress is much slower.
throwaway22032超过 2 年前
I love the whole debate about vegetarianism because it&#x27;s just so obviously solvable.<p>When &gt;50% of Olympic athletes with their optimised fitness plans are vegetarian&#x2F;vegan, then you&#x27;ll know it makes sense.
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mytailorisrich超过 2 年前
Plant-based meat replacements tend to be highly processed food, which may neither be good for us nor the environment. Really, they are first a foremost exploiting a gap in the market at the moment.
hrbf超过 2 年前
Unless I’m misunderstanding it, what this study apparently shows is that when a mouse eats unhealthy foods for some time, digestive function changes. An eye-opening result indeed.
j_m_b超过 2 年前
I love that people now explicitly state that studies are in mice. That &quot;InMice&quot; Twitter account did a great service to mankind!