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The Chaos (1922)

63 点作者 mxschumacher超过 2 年前

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bradrn超过 2 年前
As an antidote to this, I recommend Mark Rosenfelder’s <i>Hou tu pranownse Inglish</i> [<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zompist.com&#x2F;spell.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zompist.com&#x2F;spell.html</a>], which gives a set of rules to correctly predict the pronunciation of English words from their spelling ‘over 85% of the time’ (using a sample lexicon of 5000 words). English spelling is certainly horrible and irregular, but it isn’t <i>unmanageably</i> irregular.<p>(To illustrate the point, I supply a quote from said article of a fact which seems to be ignored curiously often: ‘George Bernard Shaw&#x27;s <i>ghoti</i> … illustrates only Shaw&#x27;s wiseacre ignorance. English spelling may be a nightmare, but it does have rules, and by those rules, <i>ghoti</i> can only be pronounced like <i>goatee</i>.)
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chr15p超过 2 年前
To make written English you need to take 1 part Old (Anglo-Saxon) German, 1 part old Norse, and 1 part old French, stir together for a couple of centuries, then, just as its going though a major pronunciation shift have its spelling formalised by a random bunch of academics with an unhealthy obsession with latin and greek. Fianlly throw away a bunch of letters because the Germans and Itallians who made block type lettersfor printing presses had never heard of them, and bodge your spelling back together using whatever you can just about get away with. (Bring back Thorn!)<p>Then sit back and get very upset with anyone who tries to remove the &#x27;u&#x27; from colour.
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nine_k超过 2 年前
The chaos actually comes from English importing both foreign spelling <i>and</i> foreign pronunciation. Without a way to reliably represent an arbitrary phonetic representation, English has little choice. When English tries to phonetically adopt foreign words, success is intermittent: it may work with easy cases like sputnik or sushi, but becomes more problematic with words like typhoon or borscht.
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andrewshadura超过 2 年前
If you’re struggling with properly pronouncing it, try this: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.franglish.fr&#x2F;dearest_creature&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.franglish.fr&#x2F;dearest_creature&#x2F;</a>
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dang超过 2 年前
Related:<p><i>The Chaos</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29871318" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29871318</a> - Jan 2022 (2 comments)<p><i>The Chaos (1922)</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9717861" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9717861</a> - June 2015 (17 comments)<p><i>&quot;The Chaos&quot; poem catalogues English word irregularities. Can you read all of it?</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=1098283" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=1098283</a> - Feb 2010 (2 comments)<p>(We changed the URL above from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;monologues.co.uk&#x2F;004&#x2F;Chaos-The.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;monologues.co.uk&#x2F;004&#x2F;Chaos-The.htm</a> to a different version that is helpfully italicized.)<p>Meihem in Ce Klasrum or Ghoti, anyone?
keithalewis超过 2 年前
I can highly recommend 16th century Portugese monks if you would like to romanize your language. You can learn in a day or two how to pronounce Vietnamese text well enough for a native speaker to understand you. Unless they are from Hue.
euroderf超过 2 年前
Does anyone know of a website where would-be spelling reformers can post their own versions of classic samples like The Chaos ?
stevebmark超过 2 年前
Keep this in mind the next time you claim gif must have a hard g to be consistent with other words.
Silverback_VII超过 2 年前
missiles in 1922? what kind projectile did they mean by it?
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