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Ask HN: Investigating EM Noise

4 点作者 rmckayfleming超过 2 年前
For the past few months I&#x27;ve been having absolutely horrible wi-fi issues. I&#x27;ve been trying to get to the root of the problem for some time now and I&#x27;m at the point where I&#x27;m grasping at straws. Essentially, I&#x27;ve been experiencing really terrible, yet inconsistent, packet loss on the order of 10-25%. It&#x27;s a daily problem, but I&#x27;ve made little headway on solving it because I can&#x27;t seem to correlate anything I do with the issue.<p>Here&#x27;s an overview of what&#x27;s happening and what&#x27;s been investigated:<p>- First of all, I haven&#x27;t always had this issue. I&#x27;ve been in this house for 2 years now, and didn&#x27;t have any problems until earlier this year.<p>- I first started seeing problems with Zoom. Specifically my outgoing packets. If I look at the Zoom statistics, I&#x27;ll receive 1080p video at 30fps but my outgoing video will be 180p and under 10fps typically. I&#x27;ll often see 30%+ packet loss on the outgoing requests.<p>- It&#x27;s slowly gotten worse as general web browsing hangs a lot. By which I mean, it&#x27;ll regularly but randomly take a second or so for a website to resolve (and I&#x27;m talking big highly available services).<p>- I got to the point where I thought this was related to my ISP. They&#x27;ve sent multiple techs out. They&#x27;ve replaced the modem, the splitters on the cable, etc. Interestingly they noticed that there were maintenance issues with our local box, but even after those were addressed the problems have persisted. So it looks like the connection to the ISP is fine (I&#x27;m not seeing any codeword errors on my modem which I once did).<p>- Following all of that, my ISP ended up sending a specialist because apparently there&#x27;s a lot of noise at my house. I live in a town house. The neighbours to my left and right have both changed in the past few months. Seeing as how my network topology has not changed in well over a year, and I didn&#x27;t have this issue to begin with, that leads me to believe they might be the issue?<p>- It&#x27;s really affecting my Macs more than anything. If I do a packet loss test, they&#x27;ll have rolling spikes of up to 200-400ms, where a baseline would be more like 40ms. Interestingly, my gaming laptop will see 60ms flat while the Macs will be spiking.<p>- My girlfriend has been having problems with her Bluetooth mouse. Full battery, but the mouse will skip, miss clicks, etc.<p>- Seems to happen at all hours. Especially a problem during the day, but it happens at night too.<p>With all that in mind, what should I be doing next? The ISP has found a lot of noise in my immediate vicinity, how might I find the root of the issue? I&#x27;m not sure what tools I&#x27;d need to investigate that myself. It&#x27;s driving me insane (I have to spend a lot of time on Zoom these days, and it&#x27;s affecting my work).

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rmckayfleming超过 2 年前
So turns out it was a dirty fibre connection leading to really bad buffer bloat!
fuzzfactor超过 2 年前
If this hasn&#x27;t been tried already, you might have a WIFI survey app built into your router that can tell the strength and channel number of your neighbors&#x27; signals.<p>Or use an app on a WIFI device.<p>You would have to log directly on to your router anyway if you decide to change its settings, you could carefully select a single (less crowded) channel for it to operate on rather than the automatic searching that normally is done.<p>This alone might make it easier for your portable devices to stay connected, but the next step might be to set them each for the same fixed channel as your router. Remember you might need to set them back to auto when you leave the home.
f1shy超过 2 年前
Contact FCC or whatever local authority takes care of spectrum use in your country.
kjs3超过 2 年前
Don&#x27;t use WiFi? Seriously...string a wired ethernet cable to the ISP modem. Try that first. See if it fixes things. It&#x27;s entirely likely there&#x27;s just too many talkers competing for finite WiFi bandwidth.
rthomas6超过 2 年前
Have you tried a 5GHz WiFi (802.11n)? It&#x27;s a totally different frequency, so maybe you can sidestep the noise if you can&#x27;t fix it.
autoexec超过 2 年前
Get some of that wifi blocking wallpaper to try to block a lot of whatever is coming through from outside?