Funny to see a bunch of (quickly flagged) comments that show a clear misunderstanding of what the German hacker scene is and wants.<p>Besides not being a monolith and this being amenable to labeling as such, it's still in many parts different from many other hacker scenes.<p>The CCC has always had the ambition (and backing credentials/skills) to be a political movement as much as a technological one. In fact that's the origin story of the Congress; Wau Holland inviting others to "do something" with these machines that were set to change the world. This political attitude always had a left and anti-fascist bent, IMHO something that Germany in the 80s, and nowadays, desperately needs.<p>The US scene in comparison (seen from far, just to be clear) looks much more comfortable with closeness to corporate and state actors. Having worked with the intelligence community seems to be more of a badge of honor over there?<p>In France in comparison the scene as I see it focuses much more on making <i>things</i>, while organisations like La Quadrature du Net are well known but small and not at all organized/supported in the grass roots way that the CCC is. Which is why they seem to enjoy the CCC events, it's always great to have them there. :)<p>I might be getting this very wrong, like I said I'm only seeing the US scene from "over here" and I only have shallow interaction with the French scene.<p>I'd also love to hear from other places and how your local nerd communities do in terms of taking political agency.