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Speculation that wormholes and entanglement are two aspects of the same thing

118 点作者 prostoalex超过 2 年前

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rfreytag超过 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20221010171135&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;10&#x2F;10&#x2F;science&#x2F;black-holes-cosmology-hologram.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20221010171135&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytim...</a>
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nathan_compton超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve got a PhD in physics but am not a theorist. I do, however, maintain an interest in this material and I must confess that when you dig pass the gloss that Susskind typically puts on the &quot;quantum mechanics == gravity&quot; spiel the actual theoretical case seems pretty distant&#x2F;vague (to say nothing of the fact that there is nothing like experimental support for anything at all having to do with this because the experiments are presently impossible).<p>What all this comes down to is a &quot;mere&quot; correspondence between some equations governing the way entanglement develops in time and the way some other gravitational systems evolve in time in a very specific sort of set up universe which is quite different from our own. Lots of physical phenomena have similar dynamical laws. Given the tenuousness of ADS&#x2F;Cft and the differences between that imaginary universe and our own in number of dimensions and structure of spacetime, I think the assertion that these two phenomena supervene upon a shared ontological substance of some kind is provocative but hardly anything I&#x27;d write a New York Times article about. I mean for the lay reader this is basically bullshit which is more likely to confuse than illuminate.<p>That said, if this kind of reporting sparks the interest of a young physicist out there, I guess its mostly harmless.
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cleansingfire超过 2 年前
Nice job describing why ER=EPR is so exciting, and conveying conflicts within physics. The idea that Einstein held conflicting views is important to keep in mind because we see him being led by the data rather than dogma. Susskind has a lot of interesting ideas and excels at sharing his excitement. These are interesting problems and quantum physics has great difficulty communicating well, and still has plenty of nonsense sadly. Yes, Einstein was conflicted, sans acknowledged these things. Susskind used to be a string theorist. People grow and learn.
quercusa超过 2 年前
<i>The implication is that, in some strange sense, the outside of a black hole was the same as the inside, like a Klein bottle that has only one side.</i><p>The moment Cliff Stoll has been preparing for!
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vmoore超过 2 年前
One theory I have is that advanced intelligences are out there harvesting energy, so they deliberately start black holes to power their spacecraft. Imagine some sort of collection depot on the other side of a black hole that is harvesting exotic matter so they can travel vast distances with ease. &lt;&#x2F;tinfoil&gt;
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kdavis超过 2 年前
I’m disappointed at the level of comments here. HN you’re better than this.
Maursault超过 2 年前
What has always bothered me is the nomenclature; &quot;black hole,&quot; is an astounding misnomer. A hole is not <i>something</i>, it is a cavity in something else. Black holes are definitely <i>something</i> and a lot of it. Space is the black hole of the Universe, not black holes. Those are the mountains.
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lamontcg超过 2 年前
The article spends a lot of time talking about black holes, I&#x27;d rather hear more about wormholes and the quantum entanglement problem. That is something that you can easily demonstrate on a desktop and is going on all around us (whereas evaporating black holes are not). An entangled quantum state being composed of a wormhole is more or less what I&#x27;ve thought should be the way to resolve the non-locality of the measurement problem. You need a physical theory of quantum wormholes though which doesn&#x27;t violate causality and cannot be used for superluminal communication. Then some sort of conditions which causes the entanglement to &quot;snap&quot; and become observed (of course that might not help with the black hole information paradox).
barbariangrunge超过 2 年前
Dumb question: are wormholes real, or are they just a theoretical speculation that science fiction latches on to in order to explain&#x2F;justify long distance space travel?
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account-5超过 2 年前
For a complete layman this sounds cool. Can someone with proper knowledge weigh in and tell me if this is non-sense or not?<p>EDIT:<p>Nevermind, other comments are clearing things up for me.
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bilsbie超过 2 年前
So what’s the secret?
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