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No Congress 2022: Looking forward to decentralized alternatives and Camp 2023

165 点作者 hacka22超过 2 年前

11 条评论

dividedbyzero超过 2 年前
I get why they do it. Oktoberfest in Munich led to a big Covid surge with hospitals filling up at a dangerous rate, and experience tells that December will be worse, so their event would almost certainly be severely downsized or altogether disallowed by the authorities. Renewed Covid restrictions are already being debated in German politics with the general expectation being that some restrictions like masks and less or no large events will be imposed. Can&#x27;t do an event at their scale in such an environment, not to speak of pricing issues due to energy etc. that they didn&#x27;t even go into, but that will almost certainly have played a role as well. All of this really, really sucks.<p>It&#x27;s a bit sad that they (apparently?) won&#x27;t be doing a remote replacement, though. I realize you can&#x27;t do a proper Congress remotely, but having some of the nice things (like the talks) sure beats having none. Not sure how exactly those decentralized events will shape out, but their announcement reads like they&#x27;re focusing on the in-person elements, so I have to assume they&#x27;ll be like hackerspace open-door events that cater to the locals.
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mnd999超过 2 年前
Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn&#x27;t the case in the UK and hasn&#x27;t been for some time.
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skytreader超过 2 年前
Unfortunate :(<p>I moved to Germany (and Europe) in 2019. I was planning to attend conferences&#x2F;tech gatherings like this that were previously prohibitive for me once I got settled in but then 2020 had other plans for the world.<p>It was a bit late when I realized this year that conferences and big gatherings are back. Unfortunately the ones I would&#x27;ve attended (PyCon, We Are Developers) were in conflict with other things like a concert that I already paid for.<p>This would&#x27;ve been the first opportunity without a conflict for me. Shame although I can understand (and even sympathize with) the organizers&#x27; prudence.
formerly_proven超过 2 年前
I feel like it may have been a better idea to move the congress to some time in the summer, because public health restrictions in the winter don&#x27;t seem to go away.<p>We&#x27;ve had vaccines since early 2021, and the 2021 winter still had restrictions, now we&#x27;re two years down the road and looking at another wave and another restricted winter.<p>I don&#x27;t see how it&#x27;s going to be substantially different for the 2023 winter unless there&#x27;s some new revolutionary thing (e.g. vaccine that prevents infection and spread) or COVID kills itself through evolution.
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iconosynclast超过 2 年前
I see a lot of people being surprised at the risk benefit calculus leading to this decision but not many recognizing that the threat of people getting sick isnt the only issue. having an event like that if there is going to be a mask mandate for example would simply not be any fun in my opinion and I think problems of this nature are a large part of the decision
zoobab超过 2 年前
Maybe another country can take over the event :-) ?
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rsync超过 2 年前
Why not permanently move ccc to the opposite season with the opposite disease load ?<p>I never understood the Christmas holiday schedule of kongress and it has kept me from ever attending these past 20+ years … too many other commitments and too crazy a travel season …
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simon_o超过 2 年前
I rarely see submissions with such a high proportion of flagged&#x2F;dead posts ...<p>I wonder what it is that brings the crazies out of the woodwork, whenever some congress announcement happens.
extantproject超过 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;twF3P" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;twF3P</a>
eimrine超过 2 年前
What is 37c3? I have only figured up that c3 is &quot;Chaos Communication Congress&quot;.
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turing_complete超过 2 年前
Weird decision. I am in Germany and no one cares about Covid anymore. I don&#x27;t think we will have super strict covid measures this winter.
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