iPad Pro M2

I Work IT in a institution with 290 employees and have had 5 switch to iPad Pro&#x27;s to &quot;replace&quot; their laptop. I am now 5 for 5 with all asking for their laptop back.<p>iPadOS is nothing more than iPhoneOS renamed and the device is still too heavily crippled for desktop&#x2F;laptop replacement.<p>In my mini test case scenario I never said a word..simply the employee asked for iPad Pro.. I just handed it to them... waited... then about 2 weeks later they asked for laptop back.<p>Not sure what Apple&#x27;s plan here is but they continue to market this to schools and workplaces as a laptop replacement but refuse to add functionality to the OS and keep it overly crippled&#x2F;restricted.

One current day iPad killer app IMO is Procreate. It&#x27;s basically a more intuitive version of Adobe Illustrator completely optimized for iPad + iPen. I bought my then girlfriend (now wife :D) an iPad for her bday in 2020 accepting the risk that we&#x27;re spending a lot of money on an activity she might not stick with (digital illustration). Happy to report that I was totally wrong and we have def gotten our money&#x27;s worth through the countless hours she has logged creating art. If she didn&#x27;t have such a stellar app like Procreate she probably would have tried out other illustration methods. Not a guerilla marketing plug, I have no vested interest in Apple or Procreate. Just sharing an app outside my space that seems to not get much attention here on HN. You can check out my wife&#x27;s art at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;instagram.com&#x2F;gabjoart" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;instagram.com&#x2F;gabjoart</a>

I love how &quot;Desktop-class apps&quot; means extremely basic features available decades ago on desktop: &quot;consistent undo and redo, a redesigned inline find-and-replace experience, a new document menu, customizable toolbars, and the ability to change file extensions, view folder size&quot;.

As a commment on the &#x2F;r&#x2F;iPad subreddit said, Apple accidentally made the most future-proof devices with the 2018 iPad Pros. There is not a <i>single</i> app that makes full use of the increased CPU power of these new iPads.<p>I own a 2018 11&quot; iPP, and it has been a game-changer in the way I have studied. After buying it, I haven&#x27;t printed a <i>single</i> sheet of paper for note-taking. It&#x27;s also a much better Netflix device than my phone.

As far as I know, this is the first Apple hardware to support Wifi 6E, which is something I&#x27;ve been waiting on for what feels like forever.<p>I&#x27;m hoping the rumored new laptops will also support 6E.<p>For those that don&#x27;t know, Wifi-6E uses the 6Ghz band, and I anticipate it will be very helpful in crowded residential environments where lots of Wifi APs are all landing on the same few 2.4 and 5Ghz channels.

Pretty surprised they left the front camera on the side of the device. I can&#x27;t figure out why they would think that makes sense after using it even once. It&#x27;s so awkward trying to do a meeting and I have this weird camera angle coming from the corner of my face. The alternative is portrait orientation, which puts the camera really far from the center of the screen - feels like it&#x27;s coming from above or below my face - and puts my video feed opposite to the orientation of my audience&#x27;s screens, while also not being able to lean on the folded case.

Here in Scandinavia, the base iPhone 14 Pro Max, M2 MacBook Air and the new M2 iPad Pro all cost the same: $1,484. Good lord!

They keep on pushing on the power of the iPads. Out of curiosity, does anyone really use their iPads for something they’d consider really compute intensive? I find that the best use of a tablet is reading and watching videos. Any time I want to do anything complex or computationally intensive I find a laptop to be much more efficient, both in terms of the OS flexibility and better input devices.

For me this is one of those announcements that I&#x27;m excited to see the new version, so that I can maybe buy the previous version ;)<p>That&#x27;s not a knock on the new version in any way, just a reflection of how much I value this particular type of device &#x2F; where I feel I need more power and etc.

I’m probably going to get the 12.9” model. I’m a lecturer and it’ll be very useful for my teaching. Not so much for research where I’m working with stuff like Matlab and OpenFOAM and specialist Windows software for laboratory instruments.<p>Currently I use my Mac and occasionally sidecar with an old 10.5” iPad Pro so I can annotate my mirrored slides while I go. It works but is awkward. When using a projector over HDMI it’s energy intensive so I need to bring along my Mac’s power brick. Often the display scaling from connecting to the room projector will offset my pencil position, the order you connect stuff seems to matter.<p>I teach a combination of slides and Jupyter notebooks so I need to verify that everything works as expected.<p>I could try to use a lightning to HDMI adapter and leave the Mac in my office, but I’m also interested in the LiDAR scanner for some research activities.<p>I also find the iPad great for bringing along to meetings and labs where you want to sketch stuff out, you can email the result to a student after.<p>I find it a useful tool for class prep also.<p>So it’s not a replacement for my laptop, but it’ll help me with a significant part of my day to day activities.

Interestingly, the 11 inch iPad Pro still retains the LED display of the 2018 iPad Pro, unlike the FALD display of the 12.9 inch.<p>Seems like display technology has matured and reached an equilibrium pricing state if even Apple can&#x27;t justify the cost of investing in producing the fancier displays in a second size.

I wonder why developer tools are not a priority for Apple for “pro” iPads. At this point, it uses the M2 chip so the limitations on running IDEs, compilers and other tools just seem arbitrarily imposed.

I&#x27;m a student, about to graduate from a BSN nursing program that&#x27;s online except clinicals. I went from using a Dell laptop to using a Pinebook Pro to mostly using an iPad Air (4th gen) for everything, without making an Apple account (so no installing apps).<p>The iPad is managed by my uni, who installed the Canvas LMS app. I can read pdfs in the Files app, submit papers written in the Word app, attend class with the Zoom ap. Most of work happens in Safari: watching videos, taking exams, etc. I&#x27;m a heavy terminal user, so use a GateOne gateway for ssh access in the browser, allowing me to do most serious work on my user&#x27;s account on a NetBSD server, working in vim, mutt, sc (spreadsheet), manipulating text with awk, browsing with lynx, managing my website, etc.<p>A good dock is important. I use the Pinebook Pro usb-c dock with a scroll-wheel 3-button Dell mouse and Model M buckling-spring keyboard. A recent update let bluetooth keep sending music to my stereo when docked. Keyboard shortcuts (like ctrl-a and ctrl-e for moving around the lines of a textfile) are a big part of my workflow. The docked peripherals allow more functionality than the Smart Keyboard folio. I don&#x27;t like touch screens.<p>When I graduate, I&#x27;ll probably fall back to something I like better (my little GPD or old ThinkPad X61), but for school the iPad + folio keyboard + dock + shell account is better than any other single device I have tried.

Going on from all of the comments here about the iPad not being able to replace a computer: it’s true. The I&#x2F;O is not as good and the OS is lacking in terms of being able to do ‘what I want’ with it. It’s just not a computer. It’s a big phone. With that out of the way, I think it still kicks arse. I grab it when:<p>+ I just want to watch something (yt, streaming)<p>+ I want to play some music (great speakers)<p>+ I want to use a computer in a dangerous place (bath, kitchen bench)<p>+ I don’t want to lug my laptop around<p>+ I just want to sketch something<p>+ Want to read&#x2F;markup a pdf<p>+ read a long article on the couch<p>+ play a game on the bus (Papers Please)<p>It’s great for these quick sessions. It’s more of a ‘life’ computer, where I don’t have to worry so much about it and it sort of ‘gets out of the way’.<p>It definitely compliments my laptop but cannot ever replace it.

Maybe it&#x27;s my bias as a musician, but as long as Apple doesn&#x27;t put Logic on the iPad, it&#x27;s just not a system that works as a piece of professional kit.

I have seen some discussions on this post about the use of iPad Pro as a device for actual work, so I will chime in with my experience.<p>First of, I love the iPad Pro and have been using it for about a year almost daily. I use it for leisure as well as actual work. I am currently writing a technical book, and I decided to do it all on my iPad. I hook up my external keyboard and the Mx Master mouse is paired to both my MacBook and iPad, so I can easily switch.<p>I initially thought that I would not really like it, but ended up using it as my preferred to device for such work. I can easily sketch things in GoodNotes, and writing with the pen helps me think. I use Termius to ssh into my development machine when I need to write some code, and I use Word to write the text content. I also use the GitHub app although that doesn’t work perfectly so I use the web version as well.<p>I hardly ever use split screen, so each app is essentially in distraction_free mode. I also notice that I get side tracked way less (no slack, email, or other distractions which I check often on my MacBook). Plus when travelling I only take my iPad now, I worked from airports and hotels only on this device.<p>I was definitely sceptical about it, but ended up loving it. It actually made me reconsider buying a new macbook, and at this point I would rather upgrade my iPad than buy the new MacBook anyway.<p>(It is also a great leisure device, depending on what you do. I have Netflix and YouTube on here, and I occasionally draw a bit).<p>In my day job, I am an engineering manager and it take notes on the iPad as well. Would I switch to the iPad for full Time development? No, probably not. But I do use it for my side projects, and for something like advent of code it is good enough as well.

Seriously, they should bring smart folio back. The one that doesn&#x27;t have the unnecessary backside but only the side and the front cover.

I live pretty far from my parents, and I really want to set them up with a nice video conferencing setup so we can chat as well as in person. I started to spec out a nice setup with open-back headphones, 60 Hz 1080p camera, nice microphone, low latency screen, the works. But this would cost at least $1k, and I&#x27;m sure it would be difficult for them to operate. Plus it would be hard to use in certain situations like with children or while eating.<p>So I&#x27;ve decided to get them the iPad Pro. I&#x27;m trusting Apple to focus on things like screen latency and microphone&#x2F;speaker quality in their products. Plus it should be quite easy for my parents to use. It just seems to me like the iPad Pro is the best product for setting up non-tech people with a decent videoconferencing setup.<p>Has anyone else solved this problem, or have thoughts on using an iPad for video chatting?

Interestingly the Apple Pencil &quot;hover&quot; feature doesn&#x27;t require a new generation of Pencil — this works on the 2nd Gen.<p>Overall, this looks like it is clearly aimed at creators. I have the 2018 Pro with Magic Keyboard and have zero interest in upgrading to this model. Honestly I almost wish I could trade my Pro for a Mini, since it&#x27;s more pocket-able, and I mainly use my Pro for demoing my startup&#x27;s technology.

The iPad Pro is an amazing piece of hardware! But the last iterations make zero difference for most consumers. The hardware improved rapidly over a couple of years. Both the 2017 model (move from 9.7 to 10.5 screen) and the 2018 model (new design without home bottom, USB-C, Gen 2 Pencil) were huge steps. Magic Keyboard from 2020 was a great addition as well and works with the 2018 model. For my own usage, the 2018 model is pretty much feature complete from a hardware perspective. Software makes the big difference now.<p>I am still amazed by my 2018 iPad pro four years later!

The convergence between iPad and Mac is pretty brilliant. If you think about it, the iPad now has a lot of features that are much better than a top of the line Mac, like 5g and the display tech.<p>It’s all still too new but if you read the tea leaves we are heading towards a convergence. In the future there will be a device that behaves like an iPad on its own. With an app and touch oriented experience, but when connected to a keyboard and mouse will be like a Mac today. The universal app stuff is a great indicator of them moving in that direction, even if it’s still new.<p>One thing I don’t really understand though is how a Unix interface will work with a device that is also iPad OS. Like, if you can install stuff from online, eg through home brew, will you be able to side load apps? If that’s the case I think the app experience might suffer, but at the same time if the Unix experience has its wings clipped then what do they plan to replace it with?<p>I mean that sincerely. I don’t think apple is so naive as to think they can make macs into iPads and not provide an alternative. Maybe they’ll offer a native package manager, one that’s even reverse compatible with brew as a starting point, and then provide an integrated notary process as part of that system for publishing recipes.

Is anybody hooking up a keyboard and mouse to their ipad pro and using it as an interface to a remote desktop running in the cloud? If so, what software stack?

From the press release: &quot;The 11-inch iPad Pro starts at $799 (US) for the Wi-Fi model and $999 (US) for the Wi-Fi + Cellular model; the 12.9-inch iPad Pro starts at $1,099 (US) for the Wi-Fi model, and $1,299 (US) for the Wi-Fi + Cellular model.&quot;

&gt; the 16-core Neural Engine can process 15.8 trillion operations per second — 40 percent more than M1 — making iPad Pro even more powerful when handling machine learning tasks<p>Do people actually use the iPad for machine learning?

The high refresh rate being limited to pro models seems like apple deliberately holding back a feature from it&#x27;s lesser expensive models to avoid it competing with its more expensive models.

I would almost want to create a new thread for this, but what is the use case of a tablet? Is this for fulltime physical meeting goers to stylishly take notes?<p>Is there some benefit to using this over a laptop?

Looks really nice, but as a developer I&#x27;m unwilling to give that up on my local system! Maybe one day if cloud only becomes a lot better, but even then feels like a downgrade.

I used to be a die-hard iPad-for-coding user, but with the advent of the M1 MBAs I couldn&#x27;t justify it anymore.<p>The thing that broke me was that if I wanted a remote development env (because at the end of the day you can&#x27;t do development on an iPad without some remote computer running stuff for you) at the time you needed to a) provision on via safari manually b) have some kind of script or something on the iPad capable of doing that for you c) have a cheap&#x2F;low-power computer always running to run the scripts. [This is assuming you don&#x27;t have a remote computer already you can turn on. E.g. &quot;only iPad + on-demand cloud resources&quot;]<p>I eventually concluded the M1 MBA is a better option because of how heavy an iPad Pro 12&quot; + Magic KB Case is in comparison.<p>I still *love* my iPad Pro. The screen is almost a good enough reason to use it. Also it had LTE which was very useful.<p>I still think it&#x27;s possible to make the iPad do everything I wanted the M1 MBA to do without significantly changing how Apps are developed or restrictions on iPadOS (and apps like ShellFish, WorkingCopy, and Blink Shell are really my go-to examples of how that could have existed all this time), but while possible today it&#x27;s just much higher friction and cost to use an iPad to do the same thing an entry-level M1 MBA could do.

It&#x27;s still pathetic they won&#x27;t let you run OS X on it.

&quot;Hover&quot; with the Apple Pencil is something that my Tablet PC in 2003 could do. Still, I&#x27;m very glad that tablets in 2022 finally have this feature.

Interesting, if only incremental update. The hardware far outpacing the software continues.

I bought an iPad Pro (M1) about a month ago. I&#x27;m glad I didn&#x27;t wait, most of these upgrades are superficial or would not be noticed by me.

Has there been any recent discussions as to why Apple still hasn&#x27;t introduced cellular connectivity on their laptops? Is it yet another attempt to get people to convert over to the walled garden of iOS? With every ipadOS iteration, they push it to be closer and closer to a desktop experience (windows, monitor support, keyboard trackpad cover, etc).

I had an iPad for a long while way back. I bought the Retina one initially.<p>It was nice for what it was.<p>I just can’t get excited about anything iOS as unless you have REALLY bought into the “ecosystem” it’s a clusterfuck.<p>- File management is still a sick joke.<p>- unless they’ve really changed something that I’m unaware of (which I’ll admit is entirely possible) with “iPadOS” vs regular iOS, multitasking is still a pathetic joke. The state saving and pausing which relegates the devices to essentially fancy task switching and not real preemptive multitasking (other than extremely specific program scenarios and services functionality) which drives me insane. Why the hell does my SSH client have to constantly ping my location to get around the “you can run 13 seconds in the background before the OS forcefully state pauses you”? Why the fuck can’t apple give a nice little “this app can run run run till it’s little heart bursts in the background!” Toggle switch you can control?<p>People go on and on about iPhone battery life and… there’s a reason for that.<p>- The ridiculous sandboxing between programs that’s supposedly a security feature but just makes for an insufferably inconsistent UI and terrible management of data between programs … I guess that goes with my file management complaint.<p>I dunno. I just can’t abide a complete blackbox lockdown of my devices to the point of them being literal appliances. But apparently I’m in the minority there.<p>Also, most people appear to just be perfectly happy rapidly task switching. And having only most of their programs paused when switched from works fine for them I guess.<p>I will say for &#x2F;consumption&#x2F; of say documents like PDFs and Comics, the iPad is fantastic. But outside of that basic usage they drive me insane.<p>Sorry for the meandering rant. I’m waiting for food with my 8yo and bored lol

Have an M1 iPad Pro 12.9 inch with the Magic Keyboard and Pencil. Obviously won’t be upgrading any time soon(like 4-5 years minimum) and pray Apple understands that users want significantly improved OS software out of the box. Everything I’ve seen marks this as a disappointing software update, especially Stage Manager.

Anyone use an iPad as their daily driver?

You need to really need to a use touchscreen and&#x2F;or a pen to justify such an extravagance.

Best feature not really mentioned is Sidecar! Having a second high quality screen has been a game changer. So portable and so powerful. I will be upgrading my 2018 12.9 iPad Pro to the latest. Mostly for the better screen to match my M1 Max.

Thunderbolt!!<p>As usual I&#x27;m envious of this hardware, &amp; wish the rest of us who aren&#x27;t ok in Apple&#x27;s tight walled garden had options half as good.<p>The M2 is a great chip. Yeah, sure, way better than anything else &amp; ridiculously great for a tablet: yes. The display is amazing, as usual. What is new &amp; exciting to me here is Thunderbolt. For so long, &quot;mobile&quot; devices have not had any of the perks of modern computing when it comes to connectivity. Being able to connect to other devices via a modern high speed cable is a kick ass feature that enables all kinds of advanced uses.<p>With things like Steam Deck, I&#x27;m hoping we see a little less strict siloing &amp; see mobile devices start to get competitive in interesting ways. It&#x27;s a fantastic device: for $400 it blows almost every phone out of the water in almost every conceivable way, wipes the floor &amp; makes mock of what we get. We should have higher expectations, see more cross-market products, but we&#x27;ve been locked into very tight market segments for a long time. One other category busting device I&#x27;d cite- really interesting- is the Lenovo Legion Phone, an ultra-serious gaming phone from 2021, which has dual batteries, cooling fans, a 144Hz OLED screen &amp; tip top specs, but most genre-busting of all: a phone with two USB-C ports. Do it. Make your phone a connectable device! Go next level!<p>I&#x27;d love to see a betting pool on what quarter we first see a phone with USB4. Anyone here wanna bet on anytime in 2023? Personally I still think anytime in 2024 is only like 60&#x2F;40 odds yes. There&#x27;s little impetus to try, to do better, to make, even though it&#x27;s so near. Even though the chipspace is tiny. Even though the IP isn&#x27;t that costly. There&#x27;s no perceived market, and that belief keeps the market for advancement from occurring.<p>I love thunderbolt here. The irony is that Apple is one of the most closed ecosystems with the least potential by far to make use of the wide range of nearly-anythings someone could plug in via thunderbolt. Ideally Steam Decks and phones should all be able to make fine use of eGPUs, NICs&#x2F;infiniband&#x2F;whatever adapters. They should all support CXL too, but we&#x27;ll see this, like all the other good stuff, segmented off to servers for 5 years, then desktops for 5 years, before finally it becomes clear &amp; obvious consumers would have great benefit &amp; that it&#x27;s simpler, more powerful, more flexible to use the good high power specs for these mobile consumer devices too, &amp; we&#x27;ve been shorting ourselves this whole time for no real good reason.

Pretty boring announcement, biggest things is that Apple finally has stock of Broadcom 6E radios so you can expect those going forwards, and that ad expected Apple couldn’t manage to get over 600nits on their small screen device.

I like how it says<p>&gt; Wi‑Fi 6E and 5G<p>So 10Gb and then as an example directly under it shows a news article with a couple small images in it lol. Personally what I&#x27;m really waiting for is 40 Gb to load my news articles.

I was told to expect wireless charging for these. I was excited about this, because my mother has an irrational &quot;thing&quot; about wires, and an uncharged iPad is a useless iPad.

Lots of iPad hate in the comments. But remember, if nobody wanted them, they wouldn&#x27;t keep selling as well as they are.<p>If you have no interest in an iPad, don&#x27;t buy one. For me, it&#x27;s not going to replace my general purpose computers any time soon, but its great for reading or carrying around while on the go for short bursts of work (SSH&#x2F;Mosh with Blink app, RDP with Microsoft Remote Desktop, VNC with Screens, etc).

I would love a way to enable Safari DevTools on this device so I could use it to debug iOS specific quirks instead of needing an Apple laptop.

Question from a gen 1 iPad Pro user (first USB-C iPad):<p>Is the usb&gt;hdmi output still a disaster?<p>I noticed a huge downgrade in compatibility from my previous ipads doing presentations with the lightning port.<p>I even diagnosed an issue where the iPad pro would not output to HDMI using Apple’s official dongle if the HDMI cable was longer than 25 ft. Ha (iphone&#x2F;lightning adapter worked fine in the same setup).

Illustrator here. Very frustrating that hover cursor is new-device only. Here I was hoping for an apple pencil V3. I figured it would be a $200 upgrade, not sell-current-device + $1200. I&#x27;ve got a top of the line 2020 (all specs max) and it seems to have lost about half of its value going by ebay prices.

With iPhone video hardware, ProRes support, and a thunderbolt interface that makes 4k ProRes actually practical to get off the device, the iPad Pro is now likely to be the best video recording device for certain creative niches. You can even edit the video on the same device that captured it in a pinch.

So... what&#x27;s the use case for this, versus say an XP Pen or Wacom graphics tablet and a Macbook?<p>The more portable nature?

I remember I used to read a lot on my tablet before I started using anki to take notes as I went. I miss it, the screens and then light weight are very easy on the eyes and hands. Reading on a laptop isn’t nearly as nice, but you can’t beat the keyboard

It has IEEE 802.11ax WiFi6E, first Apple device with it, apparently. Even the M2 MacBook Air and the Mac Studio don&#x27;t have it.<p>Edit: only dual-band. no 6GHz? WTF, Apple? Definitely skipping this generation, then.

If you only use communication tools, web based apps, Word, and only need to be able to open&#x2F;tweak an excel or PowerPoint doc, then yeah they’re awesome, anything more and you need a laptop.

Anyone have iPad Pro screen protector recommendations? Looking to get one of these and worried about screens getting &quot;softer glass&quot; and would rather have a sacrificial layer on top.

How large a piece of the chip is that 16 core Neural Engine eating? I&#x27;d rather have a more powerful CPU + GPU or am I missing the point a bit? Anyone care to shed some light?

Imaging what a great product we would have if Apple ditched the Mac and put all that hardware and software effort towards a unified touchscreen convertible tablet.

meta invests in vr goggles, apple invests in high definition. none of them invests to replace the keyboard with someting <i>better</i> , not worse. Computers are not useful without communication, and the slow human-computer bandwidth is the real bottleneck for these devices. Keyboards (and mice) are still better after 4 decades . Meta&#x27;s wrist device might be the revolution we need

It is hilarious to me that apple keeps adding accessories to the iPad to make it look more and more like a laptop.<p>The iPad is a very bad laptop, but is a great tablet.

No horizontal camera is a dealbreaker for me at this point. I know it’s minor, but that would truly let me leave the laptop&#x2F;desktop at home.

Is it possible to use iPad with Safari and VSCode? I&#x27;m thinking about something like GitHub Codespaces. Like development in browser.

Isn&#x27;t stage mode the main star of the show? It looks like the first baby step to have an actual desktop environment on the ipad.

Would have bought it if it had a headphone jack. As it is, there&#x27;s nothing here to get excited about over my M1 Pro.

Still digging my Galaxy S21 being a desktop experience over an HDMI cable.<p>But I&#x27;m probably switching to a Samsung phone that folds.

Any signs of a new MacBook Pro 16&quot; with this announcement (or any indication of when we may hear something)?

The stage mode looks like an interesting attempt for desktop like productivity with an external monitor.

&gt; delivering the ultimate combination of portability, versatility, and unbelievable performance<p>Not with that OS

I want to try the M2 on the iPad for stable diffusion photo editing.<p>Who will make that app first?

Is it possible to run virtualized linux on these and have all hardware stuff working?

Dear Apple, Does the new iPad case have a place to store the pencil when traveling?

First time for Wi-Fi 6E on Apple hardware. Expecting that in the new MBPs as well

Still no &quot;Liquid Retina XDR&quot; display on the $800+ 11&quot; iPad Pro :(

Still no torrent app possible = no buy.<p>Hopefully the EU breaks Apples‘ App Store Monopoly.

It&#x27;s nice they keep working on making iPadOS more useable. But it seems like a waste of time to me.<p>Just let iPads run MacOS already.<p>(or put the nice touch screen on MacBooks, same difference)<p>If it&#x27;s too awkward to use macOS without a keyboard and pointing device then, sure, maybe MacOS mode isn&#x27;t the default.

Desktop app and I still see no Logic Pro X on the go. Disappointing

Can this actually replace a MacBook for a backend engineer workflow?

How long does the battery last? Comparing to the MacBook Air?

I was waiting for a Macbook Pro M2 2022 announcement... :(

Pretty much everyone here knocking the iPad Pros for being consumption-only passive entertainment devices.<p>But I guess the artists, musicians, video-editors and photographers using them professionally would disagree, if they ever came here.

Still no NFC?

Still can&#x27;t believe the M2 chip is hobbled with Stage Manager.<p>Dear Apple,<p>I want my iPad to become a Finder based full-fat macOS when it&#x27;s on the Magic Keyboard and I want it to be Springboard when I take it off the Magic Keyboard.<p>Make it happen already.

Too bad that Apple works so hard to strangle 3rd-party software in the cradle.<p>A device like this would be fantastic with a full desktop environment. Many desktop apps have solid touchscreen support now, ChromeOS has demonstrated that mobile apps can be run seamlessly in a desktop window manager, and you could easily dock it to use with bluetooth mouse&#x2F;keyboard.<p>Alas, we&#x27;ve got to put up with a hi-res smartphone OS because that is Apple&#x27;s vision for this product line.

The iPad Pro is one of the expensive products that I never regret paying 800$ for. Incredible speed, smooth UX, long lasting battery, really doesn&#x27;t even come close to the previous (Intel-powered) iPads.