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ask HN: How is psychology not bullshit?

4 点作者 sheperd209超过 2 年前
I come from an applied mathematics background but by no means a researcher&#x2F;academic.<p>Still every time I look at a clickbaity psychology article title, it baffles me how they arrive at their conclusions.<p>Also I&#x27;m very skeptical of their understanding of statistics or worse yet, I&#x27;ve heard that there&#x27;s a lot of &quot;p-hacking&quot; to get the results they want.<p>It seems like such a bogus fields but they dress it up with scientific terminology and statistics.<p>Unironically, can someone tell me why they think it&#x27;s bullshit if they do, and tell me why it&#x27;s not bullshit if you don&#x27;t it is.

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Comevius超过 2 年前
Even chemistry is less rigorous than physics, for the same reason biology is less rigorous than chemistry, and so on. Social sciences don&#x27;t have to be quantifiable, or completely reproducible to be useful, in fact they usually can&#x27;t be because there are too many moving parts involved. Psychology already provided many important explanations, even if there is a lot of bullshit that will take centuries to weed out, given the complexity involved. The bullshit is part of the process.
necovek超过 2 年前
While one can see obvious issues with many studies, and especially with media reporting on those studies, there is one obvious proof that at least some of that research works.<p>Basically, dark web patterns, click-bait titles, reality shows, constant influx of targetted information DOES seem to keep users clicking and coming back. I like to call (most of) marketing immoral application of psychologic results: abuse of the worst patterns of human behaviour for commercial gain.<p>And this is just the tip of the iceberg.<p>Now again, most of it is obvious babble that&#x27;s just statistical play, but it&#x27;s similarly true that some research really translates to reality.
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pestatije超过 2 年前
Because psychology is farther removed from maths than, say, physics. For instance, you can see how statistics does a bit of math-bending for simplicitys sake (eg. standard deviation formula) and still claim to be a serious science.
phantom_of_cato超过 2 年前
It is, for the most part. The replication crisis supports that statement. [1] Quite a few results you may have read about in &quot;Thinking: Fast and Slow&quot; probably won&#x27;t replicate. [2]<p>There are at least two factors at play: what they are studying is quite complex, and people who tend to study it aren&#x27;t the smartest. Take two PhD students, one in the psychology department, and one in physics. Make them switch roles. Who do you think is going to be in more trouble? [3]<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Replication_crisis" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Replication_crisis</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;replicationindex.com&#x2F;category&#x2F;thinking-fast-and-slow&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;replicationindex.com&#x2F;category&#x2F;thinking-fast-and-slow...</a><p>[3]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;say.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;say.html</a>