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California Poised to Overtake Germany as World’s No. 4 Economy

77 点作者 wiihack超过 2 年前

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no_wizard超过 2 年前
Pull Quote for me:<p>&gt;Contrary to the prevailing perception of business dysfunction and exodus of people since the start of Covid-19 pandemic, the San Francisco Bay area accounts for 78% of the market capitalization of all publicly-traded companies in California, up from 70% five years ago.<p>In essence, tech is fueling California more so than anything else, from what it seems. The growth is almost entirely due to tech industry wins.<p>It&#x27;ll be interesting to see what it is like 12-18 months from now, because the headwinds in tech are just starting to roll in full force before these statistics were finalized. California may see a bit of a down round next year.<p>I will say though, despite a very lopsided and sometimes actively regressive tax structure and real estate problems in California, it does seem that this is still one of the best places in the world to grow a technology business. Non SV VCs never materialized with the strength the Silicon Valley VCs still command.<p>I think Oregon and Washington are also seeing a pretty strong outgrowth from this, but at a much smaller scale.<p>I feel like most of Texas tech scene wins have come from companies want to take advantage of the tax structure, and not from structural growth afforded to the region by lush VCs and risk taking entrepreneurs. Doesn&#x27;t mean they don&#x27;t exist (they really exist everywhere, see Mailchimp for instance) but it just isn&#x27;t the same ballpark.<p>It seems Texas has mostly only attracted well established companies looking to take advantage of structural tax advantages rather than growth opportunities.<p>Of course, you may ask, why am I choosing to single out Texas? Because they made very public statements about coming after and luring in California businesses, especially tech businesses. Its clear that they didn&#x27;t really put a big dent in this.
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1024core超过 2 年前
As a Californian, I wish we&#x27;d overtake Germany in welfare indicators too: free college, great schools, good healthcare, etc.
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jp57超过 2 年前
Since California is not a sovereign state, this whole line of reasoning seems disingenuous. It&#x27;s really an arbitrary boundary when we have free interstate commerce, and a highly interdependent economy. Where would California&#x27;s economy be without the water they get from the other western states?<p>Here are some other arbitrary subsets of the USA that would be interesting viewed as separate economies.<p>- The original thirteen states. - The Amtrak electrified rail corridor from DC to Boston - The Mississippi watershed - The great lakes watershed (include the relevant parts of Canada, why not?)
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helsinkiandrew超过 2 年前
Isn’t that slightly helped by the USD being worth 20% more than the EUR than it was 12 months ago?
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nonameiguess超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s interesting to see this framed, both here and in the comments, as if it&#x27;s some transitory phenomenon and California may be expected to soon decline afterward. I&#x27;m reasonably sure that isn&#x27;t true. I haven&#x27;t lived in California in quite a while, but grew up there in the 80s and 90s and I at least <i>think</i> I remember them telling us in school back then that California was the world&#x27;s 4th largest economy back then. It seems that it regressed a lot after 2008 because it was hit so much harder than most of the world by the housing market collapse, and it is now mostly recovered from that.<p>Back then, it was largely on the back of tourism, farming, and entertainment, too. Tech is a nice boon, but hardly necessary. California is not and has never been a single-industry economy, which is part of the reason it is so robust, and part of the reason it has recovered from the housing collapse better than most other places hit hard by it. Florida is another case there, with, at least for the US, much different tax policies and cultural traits, but also a very well diversified economy. It goes to show how little some of the things politicians and voters are always making a fuss about actually matter.
culi超过 2 年前
A lot of people don&#x27;t realize that California&#x27;s biggest export is actually airplanes and airplane parts. Whenever there&#x27;s a war California&#x27;s economy rapidly grows
metadat超过 2 年前
alternatively: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;rSnvn" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;rSnvn</a>
salimmadjd超过 2 年前
The cynical me thinks this is also a pre-election (“wish selection”) PR to help promote the case for Gavin Newsom as president.<p>You can imagine a talking point like “under my leadership, California overtook Germany as the 4th economy in the world…”<p>The reality is Newsom had almost zero impact on it, his leadership should be judge by the growing homelessness issue we’ve seen in SF and rest of California and not take credit for tech economy.<p>Yes, solving the homeless problem is a huge and complex challenge, but the country now needs leadership that is able to solve the big challenging problem.<p>We’ve lost our ability to fix hard problems and we need to do that if we want to have a chance in a more competitive world.
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trollerator23超过 2 年前
Eh. WaPo pushing Gary Newson for 2024...