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The hotel I booked online became a homeless shelter and no one told me

220 点作者 lxm超过 2 年前

25 条评论

steelframe超过 2 年前
My elderly mother and her (also elderly) friend recently booked a place in Lyon, France using a well-known online travel agency (OTA). The taxi cab driver dumped their stuff on the sidewalk and spun out of the area as quickly as he could get away. Apparently the &quot;accommodations&quot; were a collection of small apartments in a bad part of town. They punched in a code to open the door and get into the hallway, only to find that there was nothing there but a bunch of doors and a staircase leading to another floor with nothing but a bunch of doors. This went up for a few stories. There apparently was no way to turn the lights on.<p>They had no indication as to which door they were supposed to go through or how to get through it. There was nobody in sight at the facility. After trudging up a few flights of stairs and back down again, they elected to ask some students passing by where they could find a hotel. Fortunately they were able to find a place that had a vacancy.<p>Then they had to fight the OTA for a refund. Fortunately they are retired and had nothing better to do all day long than call them until they finally gave a refund.<p>I&#x27;ve had a couple of really obnoxious problems with OTAs involving event tickets. In one case I bought the wrong type of Disneyland tickets. I had to purchase different tickets once I got to the park. Then trying to get a refund from the OTA was a living nightmare. After about a week of daily calls I finally reverse-engineered enough of their process of moving money between them and the park and what not to convince them to refund me for the wrong (and unused) tickets. Another time an OTA with a customer service stand at a hotel in Hawaii had worked with me for 20 minutes to book tickets for an event, and then at the very end they said, &quot;The booking fee is $250. But we&#x27;ll waive that if you attend a 1-hour sales pitch!&quot;<p>My strategy these days is to use an online travel agency to learn about hotels with vacancies and events in the area and then to go directly to the hotel or event web sites to purchase. If there&#x27;s no way to book except through the OTA, I&#x27;m not going to have anything to do with said hotel or event.
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HeavenFox超过 2 年前
I am actually sympathetic here - one quirk of New York City is despite hosting some of the busiest airports in the country, there simply aren&#x27;t any reasonable airport hotels.<p>There used to be many, but the City bought most of them outright and converted them into homeless shelters. The remainder serve as overflow, so you probably don&#x27;t want to stay there either. The common wisdom in the frequent flyer community seems to be to just head to Manhattan, or go to Flushing - it&#x27;s more fun that way anyways.<p>* The exception is probably the newly opened TWA hotel on JFK, which is really nice, albeit pricy
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WirelessGigabit超过 2 年前
I&#x27;m actually sick of all of these intermediaries taking money but when something goes wrong they&#x27;re like: oh we&#x27;re just the middle man.<p>I&#x27;ve got a contract with you, not with the hotel. I upheld my end of the bargain, now you uphold yours...
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Krisjohn超过 2 年前
Our travel agent is an individual with a reputation. An app is not. An app is self-service and self-service is no service.<p>When travel agents were unable to get us something affordable in Paris, we attempted to solve it ourselves with an app. The experience was so bad I refuse to travel to Paris ever again, and now we only ever book through agents. My fault? Maybe. Enabled by a faceless marketplace that doesn&#x27;t give a crap? Absolutely.<p>If a travel agent goes &quot;Yeah, you probably don&#x27;t want to do that&quot; even ONCE while you&#x27;re sorting out your travel plans, they just paid for themselves.
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ipython超过 2 年前
I get that hotels are safer but I have rented with booking.com (careful to book only apartments that have 9&#x2F;10 ratings) with much success for my large-ish family. Traveling with more than two people is a huge pain and buying two hotel rooms is not only expensive but also never guarantees the two rooms are next to each other, making family travel inconvenient and expensive.<p>My experiences with booking (in Europe mostly) have been very positive and I find them way more transparent about fees, etc than Airbnb.
neilv超过 2 年前
&gt; <i>It is hard to tell how to divide the blame between the service representative you spoke to — according to you, at a call center in a faraway country — or the system that trained her.</i><p>I don&#x27;t understand why the NYT is getting into company-internal blame. The customer&#x27;s interface seems to have been Booking.com. Shouldn&#x27;t any blame -- from the perspective of customer and this NYT writer -- stop at the company?
imgabe超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve completely sworn off third-party booking services. They never know what&#x27;s going on and when anything goes wrong they just tell you they can&#x27;t help you. Then the place tells you that <i>they</i> can&#x27;t help you because you didn&#x27;t book through them and they just point fingers at each other.<p>Better to book directly from whatever hotel &#x2F; airline &#x2F; whatever you want to use. Whatever savings you might get is not worth it and a lot of times hotels appreciate direct bookings and they&#x27;re cheaper anyway.
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brippalcharrid超过 2 年前
Archived: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;Z501w" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;Z501w</a>
ethotool超过 2 年前
Always book directly through the hotel website. Priceline has deals but their customer service is horrible. Also it seemed like the majority of the time I would book an express deal they would put me in an accessible room. I’m not disabled and generally no issues with it but I found it odd. Not only that, they will never honor their “price match guarantee.” They state that if you find a cheaper price on a express deal they will refund you up to 200% of the difference. They will act like you are crazy if you call them after finding a cheaper rate. I learned my lesson the hard way. Don’t book through 3rd party travel websites.
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topherPedersen超过 2 年前
This happened to me too in Austin! I booked a room at a La Quinta Inn in South Austin that they had turned into a homeless shelter. I was pretty upset and quit using HotelTonight and stopped staying at La Quinta Inn over it. I was able to get my money back though, and just showed up a different hotel downtown in person and got a room there instead.
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ggm超过 2 年前
Purely as an observation, as a driving holiday tourist I stayed in hotels in Penn. in the 2010s era, and even in off the main path motels, the reception was a wire mesh cage with a hole to pass money. For anyone who comes from other developed western economy cultures this can be a bit of a shock. &quot;rough&quot; is very contextually defined.<p>If however, you wound up in the parts of town truck drivers in the UK have to put up with (they call them lorry parks, not truck parks) you could find similar things. Not that the drivers are a problem: far from it. They just get shunted to some of the worst parts of town.<p>Lots and lots of cheap hotels and B&amp;B in the UK are now de-facto housing otherwise homeless people: this started to be routine under Margaret Thatcher if not before, and has continued at varying pace ever since.
Eavolution超过 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20221026050421&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;10&#x2F;25&#x2F;travel&#x2F;tripped-up-hotel-booking.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20221026050421&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytim...</a>
irjustin超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve stopped booking through Kayak (used to be my favorite), other OTAs, even many budget airlines, because it&#x27;s simply not worth the post booking headaches.
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alphabettsy超过 2 年前
I’ve had good experiences with Hotels.com and find the reviews helpful. The free nights are a nice perk too.<p>Have contacted customer service only twice and can’t really complain. When reviews or other information weren’t available in the app I’ve called directly.<p>This seems really unfortunate.
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eb0la超过 2 年前
A customer runs a reservation engine that OTAs use as a white label backend.<p>Their IT manager once told me that he didn&#x27;t understand how people can actually get their rooms in an hotel since most reservations come to the hotel as an email (unless you are going to a big girl chain).<p>Most hotel management systems do not talk with booking management systems and all transactions come via email. Of course they don&#x27;t have their full inventory in the platforms just in case something like a spam filter happens.
DrNosferatu超过 2 年前
After bad experiences with Booking.com, I just use them as a search engine: call ahead to the property I want to stay in and propose a deal that we book directly with a discount (so split in half between us the Booking.com middleman commission) - it usually works! I suggest you do the same, as using Booking.com offers no protection for problems - don&#x27;t give them your money!<p>Booking.com operates like a monopoly and doesn&#x27;t need to care whatsoever if the money they collect from you will correspond to a night of accomodation.<p>Last bad experience: I successfully booked - and paid! - a room in an evening emergency (broken-down car) to find out that the hostel door was locked and no one would open. Called Booking.com customer support about them collecting money for a service they were not in a position to provide: a total back-and-forward mess and they couldn&#x27;t care less. I did not get my money back.
encryptluks2超过 2 年前
I agree based on the good reporting that everyone is at fault here, but for gods sake Booking.com learn to react in situations like this by just getting the person a room and eat the costs and you will earn double that in more people using your service in the future. I imagine that Booking.com and related sites mostly exists due to their business partnerships where they handle bookings for employees for business travel, and that their consumer business is just a side business where they don&#x27;t give a shit if people are left stranded in the middle of nowhere. If the hotel is accepting reservations, but not actually in regular communication with Booking.com or weekly checking boxes that they are still accepting reservations then that is on Booking.com for not doing any diligence and I believe they are guilty of negligence if something more serious did happen.
nunez超过 2 年前
number one reason why i never EVER recommend booking hotels or cars through aggregators. you&#x27;ll save very little money but deal with a lot of pain if something goes wrong.
quickthrower2超过 2 年前
The old money taking intermediary that doesn’t take responsibility: happens all the time with all the things. Don’t take shit from these shoulder shruggers and try not to use them. Not just booking websites but tradespeople and wrapped finanical services too.
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diogenescynic超过 2 年前
Actually had a similar experience at a hotel in San Jose (Courtyard Campbell) that I stayed at for a wedding. There were homeless people and prostitutes in the parking garage and when I asked the front desk if our vehicles were going to be safe, the concierge told me the people I saw were actually guests of the hotel due to some city program... I was flabbergasted and also really didn&#x27;t feel safe having my 2 year old and 3 month old at a hotel like that.
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benatkin超过 2 年前
I just tried this to get past the paywall and it worked: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;FermiDirak&#x2F;f32032a30381f1b66dbc502984364217" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;FermiDirak&#x2F;f32032a30381f1b66dbc50298...</a>
jokoon超过 2 年前
For ethical reasons regarding climate change, I don&#x27;t travel very much.<p>Anything bought and paid online should not be trusted.<p>Hotels are a luxury, in my view, so unless you pay a real price, expect to have problems.
prmoustache超过 2 年前
Shouldn&#x27;t she just have registered at the shelter since at that point she was homeless in that particular city?
dangus超过 2 年前
I thought an interesting point of the article was that the customer wasn’t entirely blameless and the article said as much. Read her situation a couple more times over.<p>This person arrived to check in at 11:30 PM and intended to catch a 6 AM flight the next day. So their original plan involved only sleeping from around 11:45PM to 4:30AM assuming they were right next to the airport.<p>This is a complaint about missing out on less than 5 hours of sleep in the first place.<p>Here’s the real issue: her itinerary wasn’t realistic to begin with, and she was never going to be properly rested regardless of her possession of a hotel room.<p>You can’t catch a friend’s wedding on Saturday night and then expect to make your husband’s family reunion in a whole different state on Sunday without some major fatiguing circumstances.<p>Arguably, Booking upheld their end of the bargain by refunding the hotel. This is all they’re obligated to do. No other type of business gives you any more than that.<p>Sure, Booking had crappy ineffective customer service. What else is new with the corporate world? Even if they had a perfect concierge level process they physically couldn’t accommodate the customer’s needs because they can’t materialize vacant rooms.<p>Every minute wasted in this situation defeats the purpose of a hotel room in the first place (I.e., she could have gotten a room further from the airport but that would have eaten up travel time that would have netted her 2 hours of sleep instead of 4, because of her own bad itinerary. If she could check in at an earlier hour this wouldn’t be a problem).<p>When your flight gets canceled, you aren’t owed another flight at the same date&#x2F;time. I’m not sure what kind of emergency service anyone would expect to receive from a business like this. At no point was she in tangible danger, and this entire experience was a piece of inconvenience that was essentially self-inflicted.
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FounderBurr超过 2 年前
Someone needs to grow a thicker skin and learn about reality.
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