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Potluck: Dynamic documents as personal software

201 点作者 samlambert超过 2 年前

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armchairhacker超过 2 年前
This is something I&#x27;ve wanted for years. My dream app is a &quot;data canvas&quot; where you can write, draw, plan, automate, compute, graph, collaborate, and package into a user-facing executable. Basically every productivity tool (and I mean <i>every</i> tool) combined into one, with extreme flexibility and interoperability.<p>It&#x27;s also something extremely hard if not flat-out impossible to do with an intuitive UI. All of that interoperability means extreme complexity, and it&#x27;s not even possible to infer advanced computations or constraints for an app without specifying them in detail (in which case you&#x27;re basically just programming). But I like that people are trying, because even though there&#x27;s no unified data canvas available yet, we really are getting closer with things like high-level languages, low-code solutions, Apple and Microsoft continuity, and of course this.
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dmitriid超过 2 年前
People saying &quot;this can be done with X&quot; and listing the various combinations of tools miss the most important thing: I, the user, couldn&#x27;t care less about spending time to collect and configure these separate, and often conflicting, tools into a cohesive whole.<p>I, the user, will always reach for something that gives me a cohesive whole out of the box.<p>(Note: though I like the idea of Potluck, I&#x27;ll stick to regular Notes.app for now)
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AlanYx超过 2 年前
This is beautifully written, but they&#x27;re essentially reinventing emacs with org-mode (either that, or various Smalltalk environments, especially the Glamourous Toolkit&#x27;s Lepiter). They mention emacs once, but the way they characterize it doesn&#x27;t do justice to the underlying paradigm.
digdugdirk超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve often pondered the idea of something similar to this. I&#x27;d love the idea of a note taking app as relational database.<p>Most of my work tends to follow a few similar formats, which I would like to create as templates that pull in data based on queries for whatever project&#x2F;product&#x2F;task I&#x27;m currently working on. Editing the document in current view would then modify the database, while editing the templates would allow for a quick update of all files simultaneously (i.e.- generating a test plan for a physical product of type &quot;X&quot; would then apply to all products of type &quot;X&quot;).<p>It seems like a great way to take out the annoyance of the &quot;little stuff&quot; by providing a boilerplate way to get ideas off the ground.<p>Any ideas if this already exists, or if I&#x27;m just talking crazy?
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bigbossman超过 2 年前
Pretty much all of these features can be done in Obsidian with plugins like [Dataview](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blacksmithgu.github.io&#x2F;obsidian-dataview&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blacksmithgu.github.io&#x2F;obsidian-dataview&#x2F;</a>) or [Meld Calc](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;meld-cp&#x2F;obsidian-calc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;meld-cp&#x2F;obsidian-calc</a>)
CrypticShift超过 2 年前
The universality of &quot;software&quot; as a digital &quot;techne&quot; makes the aim of this article too fuzzy. Using the exact author&#x27;s descriptions, here are some more &quot;defined&quot; apps that are working toward his goal of &quot;dynamic documents as personal software.&quot;<p>- &quot;Write formulas that compute&quot; + &quot;Interactive widgets&quot; anywhere on the page :<p><pre><code> - For the simplest sheet-like computations -&gt; https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reactivepad.com&#x2F; - For a wider gamut of DB&#x2F;Sheet type formulas -&gt; https:&#x2F;&#x2F;coda.io&#x2F; (on top of its no-code relational DBs) </code></pre> - &quot;Users can create live searches that extract information from freeform text&quot; into &quot;Structured data views&quot; :<p><pre><code> -&gt; https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tana.inc&#x2F; magically turns every typed line of text into a row of a Semantic Graph DB. Then, no-code queries are editable in multiviews (like notion-style DB views for every block of text anywhere). </code></pre> These apps do not need extensive configuration or plugin integration to achieve these goals. They are not even &quot;low-code&quot;. On the contrary, &quot;Potluck&quot; aims to be more &quot;programmable&quot; : more like a &quot;programming portal as a doc. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maggieappleton.com&#x2F;programming-portals" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maggieappleton.com&#x2F;programming-portals</a>)<p>Edit : He already mentioned that &quot;Coda’s goal is particularly close to ours.&quot; Maybe a &quot;Coda+Tana.inc&quot; hybrid will get us nearer to his aim of &quot;computations run on data interpreted from freeform text&quot; as he expressed it.
housel超过 2 年前
I think it would be great to experiment with building this sort of thing for an e-ink tablet, adding an enhanced layer of interactivity to by-hand notetaking.
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awinter-py超过 2 年前
every saas app in 22 would have been a file format in 1997<p>and the file format would have been easier to use + more performant<p>(albeit less collaborative)
kkfx超过 2 年前
Nice, I do something on the same line with org-mode, however while org-mode&#x2F;Emacs if far less &quot;GUI-ish&quot; it&#x27;s an integrated environment who can be an entire desktop (EXWM) while no modern application can, and that&#x27;s the biggest issue of ALL modern software the model of &quot;OS + application&quot; have proven to be a very bad idea for users, good only for business...
leejoramo超过 2 年前
Glad to see references to Apple’s Data Detectors, a great if underutilized tool built in to the system.
MWil超过 2 年前
this seems to build directly on Bret Victor&#x27;s reactive documents, from 2011<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;worrydream.com&#x2F;#!&#x2F;ExplorableExplanations" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;worrydream.com&#x2F;#!&#x2F;ExplorableExplanations</a>
khimaros超过 2 年前
demo is available here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.inkandswitch.com&#x2F;potluck&#x2F;demo&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.inkandswitch.com&#x2F;potluck&#x2F;demo&#x2F;</a>