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What Happens When Everything Becomes TikTok?

69 点作者 dopylitty超过 2 年前

18 条评论

bobsmith432超过 2 年前
I am 14 and haven't interacted with TikTok once. The whole thing disgusts me and I find it funny that a company that's all cozy with the CCP is controlling the algorithm feeding kids around the world shit entertainment and lies.
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teekert超过 2 年前
Fitting, my wife showed me Instagram yesterday, and I was like "So this is TikTok?", "No, it's instagram", "Ah I though Instagram was about pictures from people, this is just short, "funny" movie swiping, I thought that was TikTok's thing", "IDK, I never used TikTok".
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fdsafdewe超过 2 年前
As the other &quot;social&quot; giants converge on ultra-short, rapidly-swiped video clips as the current state of the art in user attention draining, my question is - what <i>is</i> the next step?<p>As a now non-owner of even a smartphone, I overtly ogle other people using Tiktok. It&#x27;s equally amusing and baffling for me, and I feel pity for that person.
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whywhywhywhy超过 2 年前
Found myself accidentally scrolling YouTube TikTok last night, wasn&#x27;t a good feeling.<p>The SV giants have built a culture where creativity&#x2F;innovation goes to die and only copying is rewarded. Ironic when thats what they used to say when they looked down at Chinese made software.<p>It&#x27;s crazy when you see FB did try to make new social apps for a period with their &quot;New Product Experimentation&quot; team, but they would never give any of those new ideas the UI billing they&#x27;d give a Snap clone or TikTok clone. Always a bad sign when an org respects the ideas of the competitor more than their own team.
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thundergolfer超过 2 年前
This article is too brief and answers the question in a less interesting way than it could have. I thought the article would be exploring the consequences of short-form viral vertical video becoming the dominant medium of our culture (evoking McLuhan, Neil Postman) but instead it&#x27;s about data security and new AI training possibilities from every increasing volumes of training data.
papito超过 2 年前
Hopefully that day comes soon. It will make it easier to quit social media and focus on the things that matter. The greatest advantage one can have in the modern world is being able to avoid these distractions while everyone else is turned into an impulse zombie.
rchaud超过 2 年前
I remember thinking that Reddit was the best of a bad lot when it came to social networks. Anything good happening on Twitter would get screenshotted on Reddit, same with videos from IG&#x2F;FB. In some ways it improved the signal-to-noise ratio, as I guess my entertainment tastes were more compatible with the Reddit crowd.<p>Now, every network is becoming indistinguishable. Most Youtube Shorts I see are ripped straight from Tiktok. It has all the irritating telltale signs; wooden AI voiceover, stupid sound effects overlaid on top on the original audio, and of course a 5-second looping clip of some monstrously bad music.<p>It&#x27;s draining. I now think of it as a reprise of the GIPHY era when lazy people would post GIF replies from [popular TV show] in response to posts.
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taurath超过 2 年前
It’s interesting to me because the only thing the sites have of any differentiator of value is the userbase. Without that they are really a fairly homogenous set of features, and most of the work has gone into advertising.<p>Tiktok also dispenses of the notion that you’re there to interact with friends - it’s entertainment for your interests.
hoseja超过 2 年前
Is there some sort of hazmat suit one can use to, if not participate in, at least see what&#x27;s happening on TikTok without letting Xi spy on me?
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tech_tuna超过 2 年前
This feels like the same conversation from a decade ago when Facebook really blew up and everybody wanted to get into social platforms.<p>Everything will not become Tik Tok.
nabaraz超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s pure supply and demand. People want to endlessly scroll for content, that&#x27;s what they will get.
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WFHRenaissance超过 2 年前
TikTok, Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Youtube... what other apps behave like this?
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jacooper超过 2 年前
&gt; The shape of our politics, our ideology, and even our fundamental grasp of how the world works is, in some substantial way, up to the algorithms. According to a recent survey from the Pew Research Center, a quarter of people under 30 in the U.S. regularly get their news from TikTok clips. That number is growing. People are even turning to social-media video as a replacement for Google search.<p>&gt; Whether the results of such swipes and searches lead us to enlightenment or drag our worldviews further down toward their least reconciliatory, most conspiratorial depths depends in part on AI.<p>Honestly, what is the solution?, in the eyes of Capitalism, these Companies are the ultimate winners.<p>They are creating more revenue, more activity, crushing the competition other than themselves.<p>Who&#x27;s going to stop this? especially that no matter how many users complain, the numbers are always going higher, and every monetary incentive is pushing companies towards this AI time blackhole with infinite mass surveillance.<p>You might say regulation, but why would the U.S. ever handicap its companies when they are basically the new U.S. worldwide influence tool?<p>No matter what the people vote, these companies have an infinite lobbying budget.<p>You and me might not use Tiktok, Instagram, Facebook, but let&#x27;s be honest, we are increasingly the minority.<p>&gt; If such a system could, say, rank videos by how happy they are, it might help elevate more positive content and subdue the darker stuff: less vitriol, more virtue.<p>Isn&#x27;t this even more dystopian?<p>Imagine there is crisis in Afghanistan, or a nuclear Activity in the east.<p>The algorithm would just simply filter all of that out, and leave you living in that mindless unrealistic view of the world.<p>Yes I agree, the algorithms and news coverage are way too negative these days, but removing negativity is not the solution at all, it&#x27;s basically blinding people from the truth.<p>Instead of promoting miss-info, you are now hiding the news completely.
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beckingz超过 2 年前
When everything becomes TikTok, nothing is.
tenebrisalietum超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s funny because I recall somewhere Zuckerberg saying the future of Facebook was all video, and here TikTok is eating its lunch.<p>Everything can&#x27;t become TikTok though. Facebook has Marketplace, for example, and I don&#x27;t ever see that able to work like TikTok.
pupppet超过 2 年前
The worst part of TikTok is everyone copying this idea of putting their videos into an endless loop. I don&#x27;t want to see your stupid video over and over again.
nzoschke超过 2 年前
This is happening and happening fast.<p>I&#x27;m not sure saying all the other paltforms are copying TikTok is correct.<p>It&#x27;s more that TikTok is the natural evolution of of technology that all media platforms are heading towards.<p><pre><code> - Lower the cost of media production and publishing until its basically free - Lower the cost of distribution by using an algorithm - Lower the cost of moderation by using crowd-sourcing and algorithms (if even that) </code></pre> The results are pretty scary.<p>Political discourse is in free fall. My hypothesis is that a big part of the US political dysfunction is due to the populace consuming the &quot;news&quot; on Twitter and Facebook as a series of low-quality or downright fake posts. It&#x27;s all hot takes, no meaningful discourse.<p>Entertainment is in a tidal shift. Netflix is trying the high volume, cheap production, let the algorithm sort it out, but will still eventually lose to YouTube. On a positive note, independents are making better cooking &quot;shows&quot; on YouTube than Food Network or Netflix ever produced.<p>Old newspapers and Hollywood had a lot of problems of their own. But there were also big advantages of the professionalism, editorialization and quality control they offered.<p>The question is if we&#x27;ll find a healthy balance by some combination of the platforms and their users trying to do the right thing.
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skee8383超过 2 年前
As a millinial i don&#x27;t use tiktok. i have never used it once and don&#x27;t care to use it. personally i think it&#x27;s a detriment to society having been around zoomers and seeing the effect it&#x27;s having on them. so if &quot;everything&quot; where to become tiktok, i guess i just wont be using the internet anymore.
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