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After price update, Amazon Prime members call Amazon Music “unusable”

70 点作者 bubblehack3r超过 2 年前

12 条评论

rendaw超过 2 年前
In some insane move, Amazon recently replaced their decade old mp3 buying UI with Amazon Music. In the process, they got rid of the 30s samples. Egregiously, there&#x27;s now no way to listen to music before you buy it unless you sign up for Amazon Music! You can&#x27;t even confirm it&#x27;s the song you think it is!<p>The icing on the cake is there&#x27;s a listen button on the album and each track, which when clicked plays a _random unrelated_ song. Sometimes I feel like I&#x27;m living in an alternate dimension.<p>Amazon was the only music store offering some major artist music I could use (not buying a Mac just to buy stuff on iTunes), not sure how I&#x27;ll get music now.
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ozzythecat超过 2 年前
Having worked at Amazon for well over a decade, here’s more or less what happened:<p>1. Product, in alignment with directors and VPs, have an overarching 3-5 year vision document<p>2. The document talks about “customer obsession” and a 2025 vision for “delighting customers”<p>3. Document has mostly fluff ideas, written by some MBA grad, on an H1B visa, who is feeling pressure to deliver a grand vision. Both to get promoted (eventually) and mainly to keep their job. If they get fired, they have 30 days to find a new company that will employ them with visa sponsorship. Or they have to move back to Hyderabad or whichever Indian city.<p>4. Document goes through several rounds of review, where this poor PM gets ripped a new one, many many times. In 1:1 with their manager, they are coached on having a thick skin and being able to handle verbal abuse and being made to feel small. Keep in mind, this person doesn’t really use Amazon Music themself. They just want to turn in their work, get paid, and go home.<p>5. Eventually, the product team aligns on increasing subscriptions X% YoY and increasing revenue Y%, by end of 2023 or mid 2024. Since we have some agreement already about to go in effect which will expand the music catalog, let’s leverage that. We’ll restrict the non-paid streaming option, and sell it as offering our premium customers (since that’s the metric we care about) more variety. Indeed we are “delighting customers” and “streamlining the music listening and discovery journey” &lt;—- I shit you not. This is exactly how these docs are written.<p>6. This is reviewed and signed off by layers of directors and VPs. Keep in mind none of these people use Amazon Music. If anything, some of them might even have disdain for music.<p>7. The changes roll out. There’s an A&#x2F;B test, designed in a way to not completely obscure reality but still give us what we want. End customers unhappy.<p>8. Product team works with technical team to look at specific A&#x2F;B test results. Results show subscriptions are actually up. The measured increase is statistically significant. Music listening time is overall flat or increased slightly as well, but definitely not a regression.<p>9. Product team celebrates. Product team knows the product is worse off, customers are unhappy, etc. but the “metrics” we have show a win.<p>10. PM hangs out for several years. Realizes they can’t get promoted to a principal and leaves for another company, or they get annoyed with the whole visa back and forth process. They move to Canada and find some other Amazon team there, or they just go back to India once the initial stocks vest.<p>11. Cue the next round of MBA talent, looping through step 1.
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julianlam超过 2 年前
Yup, a couple of mind-boggling changes to Prime music here.<p>Skip limits, inability to rewind, and for some reason the app keeps nagging me to grant control over Bluetooth on my device, which I keep saying no to.
xg15超过 2 年前
So to get this right, am Amazon Prime membership will get you basically Spotify&#x27;s free tier, while you need Prime + additional $9 a month to get service equivalent to Spotify Premium?
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chad_stevens超过 2 年前
Yup, cancelling my prime sub now cause I only kept it because of the value the music provided. Now that I can’t choose my own music I’m dropping
GordonS超过 2 年前
They&#x27;ve made Amazon Prime Music totally unusable for me.<p>All my carefully curated playlists are now <i>gone</i> - user playlists are no longer a feature. Instead, you play a track, and then Prime selects every subsequent track based on &quot;similarity&quot;. Don&#x27;t like a track? Ah, well, there is a &quot;skip limit&quot;, so you can only skip tracks so many times per month?!?<p>Who the hell thought of a skip limit?!<p>I haven&#x27;t used it since. They&#x27;ve completely destroyed a really good Prime benefit. After this, I&#x27;d rather pay more for Spotify than pay for the paid Amazon Music tier :-&#x2F;
themoonisachees超过 2 年前
Installing YouTube vanced (and yt music vanced) on my phone and using YouTube music in the browser with ublock origin has been free and fantastic user experience (browsers now support dbus commands, so media keys work without needing to install the app on desktop). Highly recommend.
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oidar超过 2 年前
My young kid used to love Alexa, because it would play their favorite songs for them. Now, I&#x27;m dealing with a screaming child that doesn&#x27;t understand how Alexa could be such a jerk. They and I certainly don&#x27;t think this an improvement.
gigel82超过 2 年前
I was using Amazon Music on my commute. No ads and nice selection (often updated), plus included with Prime (which I&#x27;m paying for anyway).<p>Removing the ability to skip really sucks but my commute is not long enough to justify paying for Spotify or for the premium Amazon Music thing. I&#x27;m using a few limited playlists on Amazon that still allow skipping but may just go back to FM radio.<p>At this point there are very few benefits we&#x27;re getting with Prime aside from shipping (I watch a couple of shows like The Boys, Peripheral, etc.) so I really hate they don&#x27;t have an unbundled Prime just for free shipping.
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withinboredom超过 2 年前
I hate that prompt from Alexa and I’ll never pay it. Like why on earth would I pay for yet another streaming service?
mayankkaizen超过 2 年前
Serious and an honest question.<p>Does HN crowd in general not resort to pirating music? Obviously piracy is unethical but it is the best way I can enjoy music. No ads. I still have all the songs I had like 20 years back. And many other positives.
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PaulHoule超过 2 年前
Now if they can just bring back two day shipping Prime might be worthwhile.
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