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Let's make the web personal again

263 点作者 abreckle超过 2 年前

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nunez超过 2 年前
If this were true, SquareSpace would be trading way higher than they are now, Twitter wouldn&#x27;t exist, and Facebook would look a lot like MySpace.<p>My take: people created websites back then because there was no other choice. People RUSHED into MySpace when it got hot partly because of this.<p>Many people don&#x27;t care about web culture; they only care about consuming. Just like many people don&#x27;t become screenwriters or directors because they love TV or movies (though this is definitely a bigger pipeline than tech); they just want The Avengers or Real Housewives or whatever.<p>I don&#x27;t think this is necessarily a bad thing. Most people have non-computery interests, and that&#x27;s fine.
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beseku超过 2 年前
Is this something to do with Brian Lovin? I see the design of his personal site is a heavy influence, but didn&#x27;t know it was open sourced?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brianlovin.com&#x2F;writing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brianlovin.com&#x2F;writing</a>
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superultra超过 2 年前
I think the flaw in this logic is that somehow it&#x27;s technically hard to start a personal blog, so they invent a technical solution (a better platform). But there are plenty of great platforms that are easy to use, Wix, Squarespace, and Wordpress.com, etc.<p>The problem isn&#x27;t technical though, in my opinion, it&#x27;s social. My working theory is that there are probably the same amount of people or more who were or would be vested in a so-called &quot;personal web&quot; as there were 10 or 20 years ago. But I think that we&#x27;ve all allowed ourselves to be trained that the levels of engagement and web visitors that we would have been happy with 10-20 years ago just doesn&#x27;t match up to what social platforms can provide, so most people that <i>would</i> have a personal blog just aren&#x27;t.<p>I know my personal blog from 20 years ago, which I posted to daily, feels very small and quaint. I also know that I would be disappointed with &quot;engagement.&quot;<p>A more personal web doesn&#x27;t really need better platforms or tech, it needs a mindset reset.
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javajosh超过 2 年前
Great idea! But the problem, now, is on the client side. Readers need RSS. This lets authors publish at their own pace (which we can assume is relatively slowly) and doesn&#x27;t burden the user with checking for new content manually. Of course, Twitter is a de facto RSS feed for some, and several other services (HN included) serve that role to some extent. But for the personal web, for those readers (and writers) of the web, you need RSS.<p>The other problem is that a lot of writing is just not very good. Perhaps contraversially, I think that too is a tool problem: I&#x27;ve noticed that good authors take more time with their posts, get more feedback from more people, and even go to the trouble of thanking them in the post - which for very popular authors, like pg for example, is quite effective motivation and reward. But most authoring tools don&#x27;t particularly encourage this behavior, preferring instead to give the author the least resistance possible to publishing.<p>So, with either the return of Google Reader or equivalent, or the addition of a great RSS reader in Chrome, plus authoring tools that promote collaboration and revision, the personal web can flourish. Until then we&#x27;ll have to make do with Twitter, etc for RSS and cobble together our own ad hoc editor networks via awkward emails and&#x2F;or shared google docs.
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surprisetalk超过 2 年前
Personal websites are useful tools for organizing and re-organizing your mind. For me, a few simple practices have been life-changing:<p>1. Keeping a public list of soon&#x2F;current&#x2F;recent projects forces me to keep priorities straight over long stretches of time.<p>2. Maintaining a monthly newsletter organizes my life into personal &quot;sprints&quot;. It also provides a tiny community of like-minded people.<p>3. Essays supercharge reflections on deep questions. If you have any big ideas or strong opinions, public writing is incredible distillation.<p>4. Writing for fun is <i>fun</i>! It&#x27;s a productive craft well-suited to curious&#x2F;obsessive minds (much like programming).<p>---<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;taylor.town" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;taylor.town</a>
julianlam超过 2 年前
The HN zeitgeist (at least as of 2021) was to use a static site generator like Hugo or Jekyll. Why would we want to use Nym — speaking as someone who doesn&#x27;t use either, that is.<p>When the itch to &quot;small b blog&quot; (love the term, by the way) came around, I built my own blogging frontend utilising GitHub Gists as the data store[1]. It&#x27;s been working great so far, and uses basically no resources.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;devnull.land&#x2F;github-gist-blog" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;devnull.land&#x2F;github-gist-blog</a>
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davesque超过 2 年前
I always love having an excuse to repost this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cameronsworld.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cameronsworld.net&#x2F;</a><p>This is my idea of the personal web.
dzuc超过 2 年前
The whole beauty of personal websites is their individuality. This completely misses the point.
lazyfanatic超过 2 年前
Anyone remember webrings?<p>Technology is so circular, old becomes new, over and over again.<p>&quot;Join our network!&quot; at the end reminded me of them.
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5amdotis超过 2 年前
You should add a working rss feed link here:<p>`&lt;link rel=&quot;alternate&quot; type=&quot;application&#x2F;rss+xml&quot; title=&quot;RSS feed&quot; href=&quot;undefined&#x2F;writing&#x2F;rss&quot;&gt;`
DustinBrett超过 2 年前
Totally agree as someone who has been making personal sites since I was a kid in &#x27;98. My latest iteration has been nearly 2 years in the making now. I had a WordPress blog for many years but finally decided it was time as a software developer to have a site that was custom. The core idea of the site is as if you&#x27;ve RDP&#x27;d into my Windows 10 machine and can see all my files and apps. Everything runs client side which was also something important to me. If interested please check it out, I nickname it daedalOS and it&#x27;s also open source.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dustinbrett.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dustinbrett.com&#x2F;</a>
distcs超过 2 年前
Personal websites still do live. Here on HN too I have seen blog posts from independent websites&#x2F;blogs run by individuals. What has changed though is the rapid rise of content platforms like Twitter, Medium, Substack and the likes where the sheer number of posts overwhelm the number of posts individual website owners can produce.<p>But still the independent websites continue to run and stay alive. Some of them have quality content too and appear on HN many times.<p>Is there a community&#x2F;forum&#x2F;channel of these independent website owners somewhere? Would love to hang out there.
falcolas超过 2 年前
Dear Nym, check your layout on narrow screens. It&#x27;s about 50% whitespace, thanks to the two un-dismissable blank columns on the left.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;0ilhUAw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;0ilhUAw</a>
philipwhiuk超过 2 年前
The showcase is 3 blogs from the same guy all with limited content?<p>Okay.. so someone copied Brian Lovin&#x27;s blog platform and is proud of themselves.
ripsawridge超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve had my site (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mountainwerks.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mountainwerks.org</a>) going since 1998, and for sure, I am myself the primary user. But over time, my gosh, there is a lot of content. It started as a log of trips to the mountains. I found religion through trying to pay homage to nature by remembering each &quot;piece&quot; of it. Because an attitude of thankfulness gradually became nature (thanks to going out so danged much).<p>I wouldn&#x27;t know any other way to live. Old ideas are often gold.
poszlem超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s not going to be an original take if I say that I absolutely adored the early internet with the personal websites everywhere.<p>Comparing it with the internet of today it makes me think of the difference between a high street in a small city, full of different shops and cafes vs. a shopping mall, where everything looks the same, is loud, smelly, and obnoxious. (Of course the early internet had a lot of loud, smell, and obnoxious places, but those were much easier to avoid).<p>I also like the idea of people hosting their own sites. It was IMO much easier to talk about the free speech if you were hosting your own website and didn&#x27;t have a &quot;connection broker&quot; (Twitter, Facebook) between you and your readers. The whole argument of &quot;it&#x27;s a private bussines, therefore it can just kick you out&quot; goes out the window (unless you want to go and moles the ISP, but it&#x27;s easier to argue that they are just an utility provider).
nickthegreek超过 2 年前
Anyone know how a way to run a personal site for around $50 USD or under a year that can be pointed to a custom domain? My wife does some rug making and wants a portfolio available to show off her art, but we would prefer not to pay $10-20&#x2F;month for such a site.
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agambrahma超过 2 年前
IMO making &quot;a new Wordpress&quot; doesn&#x27;t feel like a great alternative -- Wordpress is pretty good as it is, and you have the option of self-hosting fairly painlessly if you want to.<p>The fun of late-90s website-making is real though, but I don&#x27;t see a turn towards that for the vast majority of people.<p>One nice corner of optimism is projects like Glitch [1], which give just enough space to explore, go wild, and quickly host what you make.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;glitch.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;glitch.com</a>
_jcrossley超过 2 年前
Yes please. With the “creator culture” from TikTok etc, I think if personal sites could be made _that_ easy and fun, they’d come back in fashion. Personally I’m ready for MySpace 2.0
codepoet80超过 2 年前
Slightly OT: what framework is in use for that website? The responsive approach looks a lot like a modern version of Enyo (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sdk.webosarchive.org&#x2F;enyo2sampler&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sdk.webosarchive.org&#x2F;enyo2sampler&#x2F;</a>)
s3000超过 2 年前
&gt; Small b blogging is learning to write and think with the network. Small b blogging is writing content designed for small deliberate audiences and showing it to them.<p>Are there plans for ActivityPub integration?
misingnoglic超过 2 年前
Wow, thanks for listing me as a personal website that you love! It&#x27;ll give me some motivation to write new blog posts. For anyone curious it&#x27;s the aryaboudaie.com one
13415超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s a standard to have a personal website, at least among my colleagues and generally among people I find interesting.
bobajeff超过 2 年前
Could someone tell me what is meant by &quot;just-in-time WebSockets loading&quot;? Google has failed me.
towawy超过 2 年前
How do you find a decent domain on a trusted TLD in the year 2022 for a personal website?
donatj超过 2 年前
Bring back webrings? They were a great easy way to stumble on personal sites.
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DarthNebo超过 2 年前
Dunno if all this banning &amp; suppression of folks by private entities &amp; governments is the push towards RSS again &amp;&#x2F;or some melding with IPFS
deafpolygon超过 2 年前
Except, no one wants to get doxxed.
lkrubner超过 2 年前
The law matters. Section 230 of the Telecommunications Act matters. And in the old days, for several centuries, the laws regarding libel and slander mattered, but of course at the moment they are not being aggressively pursued. Nowadays you can go on Twitter and say that Hillary Clinton runs a child sex ring out of a pizza restaurant in Washington DC, and Clinton is not allowed to bring a libel suit against Twitter because of Section 230, nor would it be fruitful for her to file thousands (or even millions) of suits against the anonymous people who post that particular rumor. And so, for all practical purposes, the normal laws regarding libel have been suspended. And yet people still need some way to defend their reputations against lies.<p>Do you want people to set up personal websites?<p>The answer is obvious: repeal Section 230.<p>Once Section 230 is gone, sites such as Twitter and Facebook will simply cease to exist. They will either shut down on their own, or they will be sued into oblivion.<p>Everyone would be forced to set up their own website, and then take full legal responsibility for what is posted to that website.<p>Once Section 230 is gone, then the normal rules of libel come back into force, as they existed for several centuries. Some extremists might regard this as censorship, but for several centuries the normal laws of libel were not regarded as censorship.<p>A civil society can only prevail where people are required to take full legal responsibility for the things they say in public spaces.<p>At the current moment, our laws regarding libel are made almost useless because the publisher of the lies are protected by Section 230, and going after each anonymous individual, when thousands or even millions of people are repeating the lie, is too burdensome for even wealthy individuals to pursue the cases. When wealthy people ask their lawyers &quot;Can I sue?&quot; the lawyers remind them of the Streisand effect:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Streisand_effect" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Streisand_effect</a><p>I do not know what will happen in the future, but I am certain the current set of arrangements cannot survive. People must have some way of defending their reputations, and the traditional way of doing so has been through our laws regarding libel and slander.<p>To my mind, the most obvious way forward is to repeal Section 230. Large sites such as Twitter and Facebook would likely vanish, and people would then be forced to set up personal websites, and they would be responsible for everything said on those websites. Like newspaper publishers, they could publish many writers, if they wanted to, but they would face the normal legal burdens of libel law, just like every newspaper.
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