Only took them so long. I ended up just caving and using WPF for my last project despite it's flaws. I could've used QT, but wanted good tools to design views since I can't afford to hire too many folks. I couldn't bring myself to use swing. I somewhat regret not using HTML5+appcelerator, but that was inviting a debugging can of worms.<p>I didn't realize javafx 2.0 is only supported on windows right now. Look forward to it progressing.