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Valve Introduces Proton Next

361 点作者 WallyFunk超过 2 年前

29 条评论

manchmalscott超过 2 年前
Valve&#x27;s continual focus on Linux (SteamOS 1.0 was released <i>eight</i> years ago) is honestly incredible, Proton even sometimes works better than native Linux builds. Truly nobody else (in the gaming space) is doing it like Valve are. I saw a talk[1] from a KDE dev talking about features Valve sponsored to be added to KDE Plasma and it&#x27;s things that are useful for everyone outside the context of the steam deck.<p>The only thing that doesn&#x27;t really work I&#x27;ve noticed is when games have an online component, whether it&#x27;s like easy anti cheat which I&#x27;ve heard <i>should</i> be just flipping a switch to enable but I haven&#x27;t seen anyone actually do that, or some weirdness happening with whatever the new Microsoft Flight Simulator is doing that makes it seemingly a 50&#x2F;50 coin toss as to whether it&#x27;ll run with the exact same settings.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=a0gEIeFgDX0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=a0gEIeFgDX0</a>
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dudeinhawaii超过 2 年前
Proton was instrumental in my move from Windows to Linux. With over 400 games in my back catalog, I didn&#x27;t want to lose thousands of dollars not to mention thousands of hours on games which I enjoy.<p>Thus far, 92% of games have ran flawlessly for me on Fedora (4 failures in the last 50). The main issues have been related to games that have kernel mode drivers for copy protection or other exotic types of anti-cheat. Perhaps most amazing (to me anyway) is the fact that mods and workshop items work perfectly. In most cases, I could pop open a saved game and continue on Linux, custom mods included.<p>Performance-wise, I haven&#x27;t noticed a difference but I generally run very modern hardware which works better with the DirectX to Vulcan implementation. I also swapped to an AMD chip&#x2F;gpu when moving to Linux and I think that removed the headaches that people often have with Nvidia drivers. Overall, it&#x27;s been fantastic.
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jasonpeacock超过 2 年前
I had to go figure out what Proton is:<p>&quot;Proton is a tool for use with the Steam client which allows games which are exclusive to Windows to run on the Linux operating system. It uses Wine to facilitate this.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ValveSoftware&#x2F;Proton" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ValveSoftware&#x2F;Proton</a>
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UI_at_80x24超过 2 年前
I want to buy a SteamDeck. But I don&#x27;t think I have the spare hours. After work, taking care of the kids, and housework I _might_ have 1 spare hour a day to sit down with the wife. I&#x27;d rather watch something on TV with her. To have any kind of free time I have to stay up till 1am!<p>I could bring the SteamDeck when I bring the kids to the park, but that just feels like I&#x27;m cheating the kids.<p>I work from home.<p>8am-9am get ready for work&#x2F;get kids ready for the day<p>9am-5pm work<p>5pm-8pm doing stuff with the kids<p>8pm-9pm eat, get kids ready for bed<p>9pm-11pm housework&#x2F;watch TV<p>11pm-midnight miscellaneous stuff to prepare for the next day.<p>I almost wish I had a commute by train or something. Or a housekeeper, or an Au Pair&#x2F;nanny.<p>How the fuck do other grownups do it? (I&#x27;m 49, and exhausted all the time)
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NayamAmarshe超过 2 年前
Using Proton feels like magic. The fact that you can run games made for a totally different OS, which isn&#x27;t even based on Unix or Linux is a big feat in itself.<p>Valve is just a single company pushing for Linux gaming and the results have been excellent.<p>Linux is the perfect candidate too. Efficient, open, easy to modify and adapt. I hope more companies follow Valve and realize the true untapped potential of Linux systems.
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musha68k超过 2 年前
Due to Proton I feel like coming back to PC gaming after almost 20 years, great stewardship by Valve there.<p>The last &quot;rig&quot; I built was for Doom 3 after which I&#x27;d never bothered with keeping a NTFS partition again.<p>Apple silicon just doesn&#x27;t seem to get to the levels needed for a state-of-the-art Cyberpunk 2077 experience even on pricier high-end Macs. I&#x27;m also still not willing to buy any &quot;next-gen&quot; consoles for the first time either (trend of maybe efficient but still glorified PC architecture continuing).<p>Would anyone have a list of well tested Linux + Proton compatible components?<p>Nvidia or AMD? Which drivers are better maintained at this point? It would still be cool to run some machine learning workloads for fun of course.<p>Any pointers would be appreciated.
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LeSaucy超过 2 年前
It is incredible how well proton works on the steam deck.
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impulser_超过 2 年前
Why doesn&#x27;t Apple put this much effort into bring MacOS into the same realm as Windows in terms of gaming?<p>You would think they would invest more money and time taking away one of the last major advantages of Windows vs. MacOS.<p>Microsoft obviously sees gaming as one of the big advantages to Windows, hence why they have been buying up gaming studios and combining Xbox and Windows into the one gaming platform.
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ydlr超过 2 年前
Thanks to proton, I have completely forgotten how to configure wine prefixes.
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ShamelessC超过 2 年前
Can someone please summarize this rather than giving a one sentence blurb about why you love proton, as that is only tangentially relevant.
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nurettin超过 2 年前
I remember using Wine to play pretty much any game on linux back in the early 2000s, even before 64bit was a thing. We had wine hacks, we had a rudimentary dx9 compatibility layer, we had hardware acceleration, and we could just pirate crossover over torrent or dc++ for that one pesky microsoft game that won&#x27;t load. (of course we don&#x27;t do that anymore!)<p>I feel like Proton is just a repackaging of what we already had, which is the culmination of the hard work of the Wine team for the past 20 years, coupled with an online distribution system which could take back your &quot;digital assets&quot; at any time.<p><pre><code> We reserve the right, but are not obligated, to remove, disable or suspend your or any user&#x27;s access to any Content or the Services, at any time and without notice </code></pre> Reference: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.steampowered.com&#x2F;eula&#x2F;471710_eula_0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.steampowered.com&#x2F;eula&#x2F;471710_eula_0</a>
Dwedit超过 2 年前
How much of Proton fixes go back to Wine and vice versa?
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TulliusCicero超过 2 年前
Proton is just a UI&#x2F;service&#x2F;convenience layer for Wine, right? So when there&#x27;s specific fixes for games, are those actually Wine updates?
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musicale超过 2 年前
I wouldn&#x27;t mind it if someone made a version of Proton that ran on macOS.
climb_stealth超过 2 年前
I wish they would sell the Steam Deck in Australia. Does anyone know whether you can buy one overseas and use it anyway?
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gjsman-1000超过 2 年前
A reminder once again that Proton only exists because, for all the benefits of Linux, making a native Linux port is a massive mess. The community calling for developers to make native ports often forget that Linux&#x27;s userland stability and consistency is simply not at the level developers expect or need for a quality port.<p>Until the day arrives when you can install a game on, say, Fedora 37 that was initially developed against, say, Ubuntu 16.04 or Fedora 26, it is not happening. Win32 is by far the most consistent and widely-supported API on Linux right now, which is a damning indictment of Linux, not game developers who don&#x27;t support it. Even macOS has way better backwards compatibility and consistency than Linux does, but developers are scared to touch that. If macOS isn&#x27;t good enough for developers, native Linux ports are a pipe dream.
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boppo1超过 2 年前
Can proton be used to run other windows software well under Linux? I would KILL to have desktop-excel in xubuntu.
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milliams超过 2 年前
How is this different from Proton Experimental?
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_Cr15py_超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been out of the loop with Steam for a while. I used it back in the Half-Life, CS Source, and Team Fortress 2 days. However more recently I&#x27;ve been a Stadia user... it just made a lot of sense with a busy life schedule. Grab a controller and sit down on the sofa to play amazing games. With Stadia coming to an end in Jan 2023 I started to look for an alternative... none, for me, came close to what Steam is offering. So I went for a Steam Deck (with a dock) and a PS5 controller. Valve truly is for the gamers.
esturk超过 2 年前
FYI, you can get a Steam Deck that doubles as a desktop PC with a dock. Analogous to the Samsung Dex but a lot better. It&#x27;s essentially a dockable linux computer.
kjuulh超过 2 年前
Happy to see a fix for final fantasy XIV launcher. That thing had been an infuriating ordeal.<p>Kudos to the proton team for supporting such an archaic technology.
MikeMaven超过 2 年前
I want to throw some love out for GloriousEggroll and their custom proton distribution as well. Thomas has done fantastic work on Proton and it generally works better for me than the official version.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;GloriousEggroll&#x2F;proton-ge-custom" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;GloriousEggroll&#x2F;proton-ge-custom</a>
999900000999超过 2 年前
Gamepass is a gift and a curse, on one hand, it makes Windows gaming dirt cheap. But it also makes Linux Gaming like this pointless.<p>If half the games I want to play are locked to Gamepass, I&#x27;m not having fun with Linux. Now, if Gamepass could run on Photon, we can talk.
irusensei超过 2 年前
I thought this was something really new. TBH you can probably take advantage of many of these new features by using one of the Glorious Eggroll releases. It’s nice that it can be used from the interface though.
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gigatexal超过 2 年前
Proton and Wine and the folks behind Lutris and Valve’s work on Steam have allowed me to nuke Windows for good. I’m so happy. I’m gaming on Fedora 36 with Nvidia drivers on i3wm and just won’t ever go back.
make3超过 2 年前
I wish there was proton for MacOs. We do have access to a number of games, but nowhere as many as on windows
Nuzzerino超过 2 年前
Okay, but what does it actually do?
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SahAssar超过 2 年前
Is there something substantially new here or is this just a beta branch of the regular proton?
bagels超过 2 年前
Still no pubg, afik :(
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