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Britain is sleepwalking into censorship?

222 点作者 sfusato超过 2 年前

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sfusato超过 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;XeDJL" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;XeDJL</a>
causality0超过 2 年前
Sleepwalking? I believe they&#x27;re wide awake and have made their choice: they prefer an inoffensive world over a free one. Maybe it helps them sleep better at night but personally I&#x27;m not setting foot anywhere I might have an illegal opinion.
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slackfan超过 2 年前
Sleepwalking? The UK has a fine and longstanding tradition of censorship. $current year is no exception.
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hunglee2超过 2 年前
&quot;Worse, this isn’t even intentional. It’s happening because ministers have not really thought through the implications&quot;<p>don&#x27;t often agree with Telegraph but their analysis is accurate.<p>Our era of soundbite politicians vulnerable to populist measures which superficially sound reasonable (sue big tech for hosting bad content) but disguise deep complexities (what is bad content, who decides this, it is universally applied?) which have profound implications for society (blaming platforms for user posted content means no more user posted content without prior moderation)
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boudin超过 2 年前
I wonder how much of it is also due to technologies making this possible. The centralisation of a huge chunk of communications via a few massive actors makes this kind ideas enforceable. So, while those ideas aren&#x27;t new, the thought of generalising it comes from having layed down the technical foundation that makes it possible.
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PicassoCTs超过 2 年前
How about talking about the source? The actual source for all those creeping towards totalitarianism? Its that governments are aware of the crisis coming and they have no solutions, no plans, no scenarios, no capabilities they want to develop to counter problems to come, except suppress the citizenry as long as they can and weather it out. Wish we could vote a whole generation of useless politicans out in lockstep.
guywithahat超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been hearing constant news about how awful their censorship laws are for at least 5 years now. The only reason telegraph is saying Britain was &quot;sleepwalking&quot; was because up until now they&#x27;ve been exclusively benefiting from it
a_c超过 2 年前
When I come into the country in 2021, I wasn&#x27;t able to visit archive.org on my Giffgaff network. Took me forever to realise it was blocked.
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knorker超过 2 年前
The UK has always been authoritarian in sheep&#x27;s clothing.<p>Don&#x27;t be fooled by its geographic location and shared language with the US. It&#x27;s very extreme as far as western countries go, and not towards the freedom side.
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jongjong超过 2 年前
We seem to be in a vicious cycle of politicians trying to suppress public discontentment by limiting free speech but this only creates more discontentment which requires even more suppression of speech.<p>Why do people in power seem to prefer to kick the can down the road until it explodes instead of trying to resolve problems as they come? It seems to be a recurring theme of history.
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ThrowawayTestr超过 2 年前
This is the country where offensive tweets are illegal.
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psychphysic超过 2 年前
Britain is embracing censorship lovingly.<p>What&#x27;s happening is that some are realising not everything they dislike was all Brussels fault.
Kukumber超过 2 年前
Not just the UK, Canada and the US also<p>Based on that bill it seems like the ideas are similar, i wonder if, at some point, they&#x27;ll merge together and form some sort of super state that gets to decide what&#x27;s right to say and what&#x27;s not right to say<p>A dark era for the west
pelorat超过 2 年前
UK has always been a bit different. I believe they don&#x27;t even have a constitution, correct me if I&#x27;m wrong?
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pjc50超过 2 年前
Previously on the Telegraph:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;opinion&#x2F;2022&#x2F;11&#x2F;29&#x2F;online-safety-bill-must-protect-children&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;opinion&#x2F;2022&#x2F;11&#x2F;29&#x2F;online-safety...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2022&#x2F;09&#x2F;25&#x2F;watering-online-safety-bill-will-put-children-risk&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2022&#x2F;09&#x2F;25&#x2F;watering-onl...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;2022&#x2F;11&#x2F;28&#x2F;social-media-giants-face-multi-million-pound-fines-fail-ban&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;2022&#x2F;11&#x2F;28&#x2F;social-media-gia...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2022&#x2F;11&#x2F;12&#x2F;tory-women-will-kick-online-safety-bill-watered-says-nadine&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2022&#x2F;11&#x2F;12&#x2F;tory-women-w...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gov.uk&#x2F;government&#x2F;news&#x2F;online-safety-bill-home-secretarys-op-ed-for-the-telegraph" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gov.uk&#x2F;government&#x2F;news&#x2F;online-safety-bill-home-s...</a> (yes, the Telegraph gave a page to a government minister; remember how much they used to pay Johnson?)<p>Looks like they were in favour of it all the way up to this point, so long as they thought it would only censor things they didn&#x27;t like.<p>Compare on HN front page: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33836666" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33836666</a> in re TikTok
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jcampbell1超过 2 年前
The plan is to have a legal but harmful framework, and Elon Musk decides what is harmful. What could possibly go wrong? Threatening US multinational with billion dollar fines? Try that shit in a non-Biden administration. Has the UK gone mad?