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France bans short haul domestic flights in favour of train travel

99 点作者 Manheim超过 2 年前

11 条评论

mojuba超过 2 年前
I understand the criticism but to be fair high speed trains are better in many cases:<p>Paris - Lyon by airplane: 1h15 plus travel to and from airport, plus security, boarding etc<p>Paris - Lyon by train: 2h30, city center to city center, no security checks. This might actually be faster!<p>Personally when traveling between London and Paris I choose the high speed train. It&#x27;s usually more expensive but just the fact it removes traveling to and from airports (especially in London!) adds so much comfort that you realize the extra £50-70 are totally worth it. The overall travel time is also comparable.
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usr1106超过 2 年前
This seems like making headlines for little real impact.<p>If they did want to do something for the environment and fairer competition between transport modes they should tax aviation fuel and airline tickets. Regardless of distance and destination.
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bmitc超过 2 年前
The U.S. has seemingly done the opposite. Nonstop flights have all but vanished completely. What used to be a few hours on a cross-country nonstop flight has now become two to four connecting regional flights that start to approach international flight times in total.<p>Does anyone know what&#x27;s going on with no nonstop flights anymore?
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exabrial超过 2 年前
Read between the lines: this has nothing to do with ecology. I don’t really understand the French government and culture enough to guess what the ulterior motive is; perhaps something with keeping non-French companies from running cheap airlines in the country?
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hkc超过 2 年前
Slightly OT but checkout Tag Across Europe: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLB7ZcpBcwdC5B-l2FQNOPJVFpqF0QVxfG" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLB7ZcpBcwdC5B-l2FQNOP...</a>
varispeed超过 2 年前
We are all in this together*<p>*except the rich<p>So this is another measure to widen the gap between the rich and the pleb - when the pleb&#x27;s travel gets restricted further, the rich can enjoy private jet hopping undisturbed - which gives them advantage over the pleb as they can get to places even quicker.<p>If we are serious about climate, then there should be no exceptions for the rich, in fact they should be leading by example.
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avmich超过 2 年前
Don&#x27;t see any mentioning of electric planes :&#x2F; - I&#x27;d assume they should be encouraged. Today they probably won&#x27;t cover all distances for 2.5 hours flight, but they still can be used on shorter distances.
thedrbrian超过 2 年前
alternative headline could be<p>France bans short haul domestic flights in favour of having to prop up SNCF
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bsaul超过 2 年前
Bet : How long until this completely absurd measure shows its first detrimental unexpected side effect ?<p>We french are really kings for disturbing markets because of ideology. used to be socialism, now it’s eco-bullshit (<i>)<p>(</i>) eco bullshit looks just like environmental activism, except it makes 0 environmental impact, is 100% about politics and can destroy economies in less than 10 years.
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543g43g43超过 2 年前
If you really want to reduce CO2 emissions, you need to ban cars, buses, and SUVs before you address planes.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;truecostblog.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;05&#x2F;27&#x2F;fuel-efficiency-modes-of-transportation-ranked-by-mpg&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;truecostblog.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;05&#x2F;27&#x2F;fuel-efficiency-modes-of...</a><p>Flippancy aside, in most cases the transportation mode has a relatively similar rate of emission. The problem is the number of miles travelled.
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freddealmeida超过 2 年前
I find this disconcerting. 1) everyone has different reasons for taking flights over trains. Markets should decide the economics of it. Government shouldnt. 2) There is no clear impact thesis on carbon on the environment of France. It is probably close to zero. If not negligible. 3). Not for you but for them. I dont see elites, powerful politicians taking the train. All the reasons will be given. Teams need to move, security, time constraints, nearness to the airport etc. 4) private jets while being attacked in France will never be banned. In fact because of this ban on flights I would expect an increase in private use&#x2F;lease&#x2F;ownership. 5) These kind of measures hurt the poor. When you have no competing options, prices go up.