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What happens to all our tech after we're gone?

61 点作者 Fudgel超过 2 年前

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canadianwriter超过 2 年前
I guess my issue is figuring out where the value is?<p>There are legal procedures for anything important (eg. financial accounts). You don&#x27;t need the password, you just go through the legal frameworks that have been set up for years.<p>Almost everything else mentioned just doesn&#x27;t matter that much. My personal site? Why would my wife want access? I guess maybe to put a &quot;good bye&quot; not or something but in the long run it doesn&#x27;t matter.<p>My emails? Again, why would my family care? It&#x27;ll rot away just like I will! (morbid, I know, but I liked the humour!)<p>The creative stuff I have made is either easily available on the web, or I intentionally don&#x27;t want it shared, so whatever.<p>Social media posts and the like are unimportant.<p>Photos maybe? I have those backed up on an SSD, no password needed for that.<p>I used to care a lot about this, but over time I just realized how unimportant that stuff is once given a long enough time frame.
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globalise83超过 2 年前
What happens to all our wealth when we suddenly have a stroke or other serious illness and can no longer understand what a password is or how to read an SMS on our phones?<p>As a very IT-literate user I already struggle immensely keeping track of all my insurances, investment portal logins, bank account logins, etc. I shudder to think what would happen in the case of becoming cognitively incapacitated in some way.
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flobosg超过 2 年前
Related:<p>* What to Do Before You Die: A Tech Checklist – <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;6vjqQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;6vjqQ</a><p>* Cheat Sheet For If I&#x27;m Gone – <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thoughtscollected.tech&#x2F;posts&#x2F;for-when-im-gone&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thoughtscollected.tech&#x2F;posts&#x2F;for-when-im-gone&#x2F;</a> (HN discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31748553" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31748553</a>)
rr888超过 2 年前
This is one of the main reasons I could never own a lot of crypto currencies. &quot;Not your keys not your coins&quot; sounds great until you&#x27;re hit by a bus and family members have to figure out what you own. At least if you have an exchange account a lawyer can probably find it.
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abruzzi超过 2 年前
Maybe I&#x27;m the exeption, but there is nothing digital in my current life that I have any expectation to live beyond me. If anyone cared about my photographs, there are folders and folders of negatives. If anyone cares about the music I&#x27;ve written, there are printed folders with all my music in them. Same for short stories and screenplays. Honestly, I&#x27;ve always treated the entirety of tech as ephemeral. Of course, being permanantly single makes that a little easier for me.
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angelbar超过 2 年前
When we&#x27;re gone. the simulation stops, and all memory state is recycled. Well thats for me... you are all NPC&#x27;s
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asim超过 2 年前
A great conversation starter. One that we continue to have and don&#x27;t actively have solutions for. We should have one. We should build one. We should make it open source. We should build a community around that effort they can manage it for a multi generational time period.
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nerdawson超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been thinking the same recently about finance rather than tech. In the grand scheme of things, I couldn&#x27;t care less what happens to websites I run. All I&#x27;m concerned about is that my family are looked after.<p>I manage all of the household finances and my partner doesn&#x27;t involve herself for the most part. My simple solution: write an Apple Note and share it with her summarising everything I can think of.<p>I add to it every now and then when I think of something important. Hopefully it serves as a good starting point if the worst comes to the worst. It does make me think I should add a few notes about tech, though, such as 1Password and iCloud.
squiggy22超过 2 年前
dead man&#x27;s switch <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deadmansswitch.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deadmansswitch.net&#x2F;</a>
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nptacek超过 2 年前
Wrote about this topic a few years back. There has been some industry progress in the time since to streamline this process but it still has a ways to go.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20201101105824&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.securemac.com&#x2F;checklist&#x2F;the-checklist-80-digital-legacies-how-to-prepare-for-your-death-your-mac-iphone-passwords-after-you-die-wills-and-trusts" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20201101105824&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.secur...</a>
dbg31415超过 2 年前
LastPass is the only password manager that I know of that comes with a Dead Man&#x27;s Switch. (1) (2)<p>I like the UX of the other password managers more, but I need one I can share with my lawyer so that when I kick the bucket he can take care of things for me.<p>And I&#x27;m sure there are security implications. But, like giving having a neighbor hold on to a spare keys to your house, it&#x27;s worth the trade off. You have to trust some people -- there are people who can help if you let them.<p>Anyway, until others have this functionality, it kinda means I&#x27;m stuck on LastPass. And that&#x27;s OK... it&#x27;s fine.<p>It&#x27;s hard to write software for adults and also keep up with the latest and greatest design choices. (Or even design choices from the last 5-8 years, ha!)<p>But a note to all the other people making password managers... please jump on the &quot;we&#x27;re all going to die someday&quot; bandwagon. (=<p>(1) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dead_man%27s_switch" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dead_man%27s_switch</a><p>(2) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.lastpass.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;how-to-get-started-with-lastpass-emergency-access&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.lastpass.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;how-to-get-started-with-la...</a>
otikik超过 2 年前
Compost for the walled garden
josefresco超过 2 年前
My wife and I run a tech business and can handle&#x2F;have access to our mutual tech assets. But it we both die? We&#x27;re setting up a casual agreement with a local tech-peer to manage the transition&#x2F;sale&#x2F;etc. of our business assets. I&#x27;ll be making and printing (on paper) documents with access credentials. While passwords change, I&#x27;m confident this trusted advisor will be able to worm their way in even if <i>some</i> of my password are no longer valid. 2FA is the biggest question as some vendors don&#x27;t&#x27; offer printable backup codes. I believe the solution might be giving access to my backup 2FA device to this advisor.<p>Personal tech assets? I have no plan, but soon my kids will be old enough to be able to manage with proper instruction.
NKosmatos超过 2 年前
One of my startup ideas is the creation of a virtual assistant service that would help out in situations like the one described. You’d give full access&#x2F;permission to this service (major security and selling point drawback), and in case you didn’t respond it would manage your accounts according to your wishes (transferring of ownership, closure of accounts, setting up of payments, funds allocation…).<p>The easiest and more practical way is to have a couple of friends&#x2F;relatives&#x2F;spouse be aware of your wishes and leave detailed instructions on what to do.<p>The dead man’s switch is a very clever alternative way of doing this.
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jmuguy超过 2 年前
I think the simplest answer is - have at least a few friends or relatives that are tech savvy enough to help your spouse or whoever figure things out. Our house is a rube goldberg machine of IoT devices, VLANs, and servers with VMs and other junk. No way I expect my wife to deal with any of that. But she does have access to a very simple, password protected file, that she can share with my father in law or one of a few friends of mine that are capable of sorting everything out (while also probably cursing me for how needlessly complex I&#x27;ve made turning on a light switch).
maliker超过 2 年前
I keep a key for everything in my password manager, and the company has a procedure for giving access to next of kin when I die.<p>2FA is kind of screwing this up screwing this up though, adding another hurdle.
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WillAdams超过 2 年前
I have the password for my main e-mail written down in an envelope in a safe which I hope my kids will be able to use to notify everyone on various online forums of my demise, and one of them to take over my digital assets (over a thousand books in the Kindle store, hundreds of MP3s on Amazon Music).
jxramos超过 2 年前
lots of threads here about passwords and credentials and all that. How do people feel about exhaustively adding all such credentials to the iOS Passwords list under Settings? Is that smart or dangerous? I&#x27;d like to hear people&#x27;s thoughts on that approach.<p>By way of example I recall seeing a robbery video online I think in Chicago where some fella was walking to work early in the morning like 5am and a car passes him by, pulls a corner, waits for the victim to cross before them, comes out pulls out a gun and has the guy hand over his phone and I think verbalize the code or pass it over unlocked. I think the guy stole venmo or something off his accounts, something like that, and I forget if they were actually interested in the phone or just the information on the phone.
fmajid超过 2 年前
I am working on this, for much the same reasons.<p>I bought two Apricorn drives with a keypad, and am saving dumps of my passwords there. Also working on a detailed set of instructions. Now need to find a good dead-man’s switch.
mnky9800n超过 2 年前
it bothers me that the article starts with<p>&gt; we use X technology that is better than Y technology<p>it makes me think the entire point of the article was to advertise X technology to me.
trynewideas超过 2 年前
In the week before my spouse passed, they gave me access to their BitWarden vault and gave me their current and past cell phones, which I used after they passed to:<p>- Update and lock or delete all of their social media, chat, and forums accounts, both personal&#x2F;locked down, professional&#x2F;public, and hobby-related. This was the primary way that many of their extended network found out about their death, including people not on social media who found out through their offline social connections.<p>- Access their contacts to organize memorials with all of the close contacts they had that I didn&#x27;t — former coworkers, friends from places they lived before we met, extended family I didn&#x27;t have contact info for, etc.<p>- Respond to text messages and social media posts from people who hand&#x27;t yet heard and tried to reconnect with them in the months after their death.<p>- Update, identify, and closed any shared accounts, financial and otherwise, that didn&#x27;t already automatically pass over to me. This was especially useful for their 401k, which blocked preferred forms of rollover disbursement into another account unless I had information I could get only via access to their web account.<p>- Transfer their website domains, some of which needed to persist for various reasons, to my domain management account, and forward their email addresses to my accounts.<p>- Deactivate their LinkedIn account, which required an inordinate amount of legal action — such as submitting legal proof of small estate probate, which even my state office told me not to get because it was unnecessary in our situation.<p>- Access utility accounts that were under their name and pay bills that were associated with my spouse&#x27;s credit cards, pending the provider cutting over administration to me, which in some cases took weeks or required deleting the account with their credentials.<p>- Download their email, photos, documents, tax returns (they filed our taxes some years), recipes, and other digital products like licenses and Bandcamp music, from cloud services, online storefronts, and encrypted storage.<p>- Update our pets&#x27; microchip registrations, and vet and boarding contacts, to add me or make me the primary contact.<p>While my partner&#x27;s illness had been terminal and treated for months, their decline and passing was much more sudden than either of us expected, occurring over the course of about three days. We were barely able to update their advance directive accordingly to the new diagnosis before they were physically and mentally incapable of doing so. If we hadn&#x27;t handed off the broader pieces of their phone and BitWarden vault first, everything would&#x27;ve been much more difficult.<p>Since their passing, this access has been useful for prosaic things, like finding proof-of-purchase details for appliances they bought using their email account or phone number in order to get warranty service, or finding a book with library tags on the spine in their belongings and checking their account to see if they had checked it out so I could return it.<p>But there are lots of things I don&#x27;t strictly need in my spouse&#x27;s digital estate that I often find that I&#x27;m happy to have. I have dozens of conversations, voice messages, photos, and videos that we only shared via email early on in our relationship that weren&#x27;t saved in other places, some of which existed only in their account. Our engagement photos were sent as archives in emails from the photographer to my partner, who hadn&#x27;t forwarded that email to me because I was looking at them over their shoulder, and it included many that we hadn&#x27;t added to our cloud storage. They owned a guitar that I hadn&#x27;t known much about until I read through the emails of their acquiring it, and realized it was rarer and more valuable than I had anticipated by a considerable amount. They had most of the contact with the artisan who crafted our wedding rings, and I was able to use those contacts in my partner&#x27;s email to reconnect with them and have them refashioned into a keepsake when I was ready to remove mine.<p>One day about a year and a half after they passed, while looking in one of their old phones for details about one of their business ventures they&#x27;d had before we met, I found a random folder with a solitary audio file in it. It was a clip of them singing a song <i>a capella</i> that they had apparently written in a car for about two minutes. I cried for the rest of the day that I found it, and since then I listen to it almost every week.