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Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

256 点作者 ghostwords超过 2 年前

17 条评论

mfrisbie超过 2 年前
What an unmitigated disaster. Anyone who has been following the MV3 transition saw this coming from a mile away. When I wrote the MV3 chapter for &quot;Building Browser Extensions&quot;, it was nearly impossible to commit to any content because there was so little clarity or direction.<p>I suppose Google gets a tiny bit of credit for not jamming MV3 through and leaving developers with the bill, but given the state of things, who has any confidence in what the future of browser extensions holds?
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ranting-moth超过 2 年前
I was writing an extension a few weeks ago. I decided to go with MV3.<p>Most of the examples and documentation said something like &quot;this has been copied from the MV2 documents or example. It might not work.&quot; It was awful.<p>I felt MV3 is really about limiting what the extensions can do.<p>I ended up having it Firefox only and MV2. Probably works in Chrome too, but I wasn&#x27;t going to waste time on it since it was about to be removed.
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DarkmSparks超过 2 年前
But really, the prospect of breaking support for the innumerable applications that use V2 and will never be updated seems to be the worst idea Ive seen in decades.<p>I still struggle to believe it, but everytime I read something on this &quot;V3 migration&quot; that sounds like exactly what they plan..<p>This isnt like IE6 either, where every user was desperate for the apps they were forced to use to die, it seems the only people that really want this change is google.<p>Apologies in advance if Im wrong, the only reason I care is I keep hearing &quot;google plans to break lots of stuff with no clear need to do so.&quot;
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lapcat超过 2 年前
I knew this was coming. Google said that they&#x27;re committed to allowing userscripts in MV3, but they haven&#x27;t even <i>started</i> the implementation. They&#x27;re still in the proposal phase.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;w3c&#x2F;webextensions&#x2F;issues&#x2F;279" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;w3c&#x2F;webextensions&#x2F;issues&#x2F;279</a>
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gnicholas超过 2 年前
This has been so frustrating. My company has two Chrome extensions, one of which we&#x27;ve been able to migrate and are just finishing up, and one of which we are blocked on because we&#x27;re waiting on a dependency to be sorted out.<p>Of course, we&#x27;re not just on Chrome — we&#x27;re also on Firefox. But our migrated extension doesn&#x27;t work on Firefox, since they haven&#x27;t fully figured out their transition plan. We&#x27;re left with a gigantic mess that will be confusing to users (because our Chrome MV3 has significant changes to our freemium model, which made sense to implement during the manifest changeover). We&#x27;ll have to explain to our FF users that they still have the old version, but the new version is only on Chrome. But for our other extension, everyone&#x27;s on the old version. What a mess.
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cube00超过 2 年前
Locking the message so nobody can reply is a nice touch.
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dessant超过 2 年前
The Chrome extensions team has been considerably more responsive to criticism since Simeon Vincent has become a Developer Advocate. It&#x27;s important to see the perspective of developers who&#x27;ve been working with these APIs for years, and I&#x27;m glad that they are finally listening.
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spritefs超过 2 年前
Let me get this straight: google is removing support for blocking webRequest API, but keeping support for non-blocking webRequest API? How is this supposed to benefit privacy if the non-blocking API is still supported?
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ghostwords超过 2 年前
Previous Google Chrome extensions Manifest V2 shutoff update thread: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33012057" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33012057</a>
CitrusFruits超过 2 年前
This is a huge relief. The lack of Offscreen Documents API has been a huge hurdle for migrating to MV3 and has caused numerous headaches.
xnx超过 2 年前
Some of the most interesting announcements are made late on Fridays.
svnpenn超过 2 年前
&gt; This conversation is locked<p>Says all you need to know. They are going to shove this down people&#x27;s throats, whether they like it or not. Maybe not now, but it&#x27;s coming. It&#x27;s kind of disgusting how they talk about this change so matter of fact, as if Chrome is the only choice that people have.
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jerrygoyal超过 2 年前
The story:<p>They announced mv2 will phase out.<p>Their initial plan for mv3 was to cripple remote code execution and network requests intercept api for their own good.<p>They didn&#x27;t anticipate this much backlash from the community.<p>Now they&#x27;ve to reintroduce those capabilities making it same to mv2 :|<p>Circus.
dang超过 2 年前
Related. 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Sept 2022 (148 comments)<p><i>Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32899846" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32899846</a> - Sept 2022 (204 comments)<p><i>Ad blockers struggle under Chrome&#x27;s new rules</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32764304" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32764304</a> - Sept 2022 (3 comments)<p><i>“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32754274" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32754274</a> - Sept 2022 (255 comments)<p><i>AdGuard publishes the first ad blocker built on Manifest V3</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32648131" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32648131</a> - Aug 2022 (360 comments)<p><i>Cannot read clipboard from service worker in a MV3 chrome extension (2020)</i> - 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March 2022 (5 comments)<p><i>Google’s Manifest V3 still hurts privacy, security, and innovation</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29555673" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29555673</a> - Dec 2021 (2 comments)<p><i>Google Nukes Ad-Blockers–Manifest V3 Is Coming</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29522952" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29522952</a> - Dec 2021 (6 comments)<p><i>PSA: uBlock&#x2F;AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29521258" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29521258</a> - Dec 2021 (315 comments)<p><i>Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29502439" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29502439</a> - Dec 2021 (375 comments)<p><i>Chrome phasing out Manifest v2 support from Jan 2022</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29410104" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29410104</a> - Dec 2021 (33 comments)<p><i>Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28680033" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28680033</a> - Sept 2021 (386 comments)<p><i>Manifest V2 Support Timeline</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28645250" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28645250</a> - Sept 2021 (2 comments)<p><i>Manifest v3 Update</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27305127" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27305127</a> - May 2021 (93 comments)<p><i>Microsoft Will Adopt Google Chrome&#x27;s Controversial Manifest V3 in Edge</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25445823" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25445823</a> - Dec 2020 (4 comments)<p><i>Manifest V3 now available on M88 Beta</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25361535" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25361535</a> - Dec 2020 (138 comments)<p><i>Manifest V3 changes are now available to test in Microsoft Edge</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24780055" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24780055</a> - Oct 2020 (36 comments)<p><i>Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21503049" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21503049</a> - Nov 2019 (436 comments)<p><i>Mozilla’s Manifest v3 FAQ</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20867720" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20867720</a> - Sept 2019 (106 comments)<p><i>Chrome extension manifest v3 proposal: comment from uBlock Origin author</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20050173" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20050173</a> - May 2019 (279 comments)<p><i>Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20044430" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20044430</a> - May 2019 (877 comments)<p><i>Chrome Extension Manifest V3 Could End UBlock Origin for Chrome</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18976409" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18976409</a> - Jan 2019 (4 comments)<p><i>Chrome Extension Manifest V3 (draft) may end uBlock Origin</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18971656" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18971656</a> - Jan 2019 (3 comments)
2Gkashmiri超过 2 年前
booo..... &quot;but muh brave wont be supporting it&quot;....<p>the way to signal google that they are not doing a good thing is by replacing chrome&#x2F;chromium with firefox. switching from chrome to opera&#x2F;brave is doing the same thing.<p>sure, firefox is not helping their cause because of their CEO salivating at google revenue but even then, they have committed to supporting UBO, something that goes on to say a lot more about the ethics behind firefox as opposed to chrome
rx_tx超过 2 年前
This is for Manifest V2 (browser extension API that has been generating a lot of debate) and not some Mountain View office footprint expansion like I mistakenly thought out of context.
puffoflogic超过 2 年前
Translation: We already accomplished our goal of killing (efficient, effective) ad blockers and we really don&#x27;t feel like doing the rest of the work. Have fun with the results!