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Boom takes the wraps off its supersonic Symphony engine design

70 点作者 dirtyaura超过 2 年前

11 条评论

perihelions超过 2 年前
- <i>&quot;And it is built specifically for use with Sustainable Aviation Fuel, a cleaner alternative to ordinary jet fuel — albeit one that costs several times more right now.&quot;</i><p>I&#x27;ve been thinking about this for a while, in the context of multiple different startups. There&#x27;s this (anti)pattern I see repeatedly: a startup says they&#x27;re doing something that&#x27;s an <i>obviously</i> an overwhelmingly bad idea from a business sense, but that creates positive PR in the short term. &quot;We&#x27;re limiting ourselves to exotic jet fuel multiple times more expensive than our competitors&#x27;&quot; is such an example. I&#x27;ve seen so many others, I&#x27;m beginning to wonder what&#x27;s going on.<p>Is it bait-and-switch? Start out by promising something you don&#x27;t plan to deliver, to garner goodwill and investment in the near term? And then switch to the &quot;correct&quot; mode later.<p>Is it unseriousness? Are they not 100% focused on doing everything to get the startup to succeed? Imposing artificial limits on your company isn&#x27;t the action of a success-at-all-costs mindset. Do they expect to fail and are just coasting?<p>I&#x27;m overlooking something obvious and reasonable. Most founders are smart (?); there has to be a sensible business explanation for this.<p>(edit: Not that carbon-neutral jet fuel isn&#x27;t a great idea for a startup. But this is a supersonic airplane company, not a jet fuel company. If your startup&#x27;s success requires succeeding at two <i>different</i> extremely difficult novel things at the same time, your success probability goes from &quot;epsilon&quot; to &quot;epsilon squared&quot;).
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thdrtnl超过 2 年前
The original announcement has more information about this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boomsupersonic.com&#x2F;flyby&#x2F;post&#x2F;introducing-symphony-the-sustainable-and-cost-efficient-engine-for-overture" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boomsupersonic.com&#x2F;flyby&#x2F;post&#x2F;introducing-symphony-t...</a><p>It seems Boom designed some engine ideas and is now partnering with other companies to see if it can be built.<p>This sounds a little like Magic Leap. Sell great ideas and then conclude it can&#x27;t be made (yet).
echelon超过 2 年前
So these are their new partners after Rolls-Royce dropped them [1]?<p>Hopefully it works out this time. This is a very hard problem, and they&#x27;re outsourcing one of the most critical components.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;denvergazette.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;business&#x2F;colorado-s-boom-supersonic-loses-its-engine-partner-rolls-royce&#x2F;article_3fe35522-32e9-11ed-8d25-931e94f18ade.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;denvergazette.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;business&#x2F;colorado-s-boom-supe...</a>
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beefman超过 2 年前
I want to believe but my B.S. detector is pegged at 11 with this company.
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Rapzid超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s built specifically for an alternative consumable, the largest expensive of a flight right?, that cost SEVERAL TIMES what the standard consumable costs right now?<p>That&#x27;s a.. Forward looking design.
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whinvik超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s very disappointing to see how skeptical HN has become about new technology.<p>Making aircrafts is hard, making supersonic aircraft even harder and making a new supersonic aircraft company hardest of all. That there&#x27;s progress by Boom should be encouraged. Otherwise we are just saying that aircrafts will continue to be the domain of Airbus and Boeing only who don&#x27;t have much incentive to innovate.
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simple10超过 2 年前
Here&#x27;s the link to Airmade SAF [1]. The company making the &quot;net zero&quot; fuel that Boom wants &#x2F; hopes customers will use for net zero flights. Tons of marketing hype, but at least it&#x27;s not a carbon offset bait and switch.<p>Anybody know how much this fuel is supposed to cost relative to fossil jet fuel?<p>Boom says they have a deal with Airmade for 5M gallons of SAF per year. [2]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aircompany.com&#x2F;sustainable-aviation-fuel&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aircompany.com&#x2F;sustainable-aviation-fuel&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boomsupersonic.com&#x2F;sustainability" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boomsupersonic.com&#x2F;sustainability</a>
cromulent超过 2 年前
Still interested in the business model. Supersonic flight is over land is illegal in the US.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;supersonic-flight" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;supersonic-flight</a>
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low_tech_punk超过 2 年前
Interesting play on names. A Symphony sounds like the boomed up version of Concorde.
KingOfCoders超过 2 年前
&quot;35,000 pounds of thrust&quot;<p>Can anyone compare this to other commercial and military engines?
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sschueller超过 2 年前
How much time was wasted in meetings to come up with &quot;symphony&quot; for the name of their engine.<p>Who gives a crap what the engine is called? Just give it a serial number and be done with.<p>Edit: By serial number I mean some insignificant labelling instead of a marketing campaign. Sell me the supersonic trip not the engines that you have to build to make it work.
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