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Wikipedia admin jailed for 32 years after alleged Saudi infiltration

185 点作者 akolbe超过 2 年前

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akolbe超过 2 年前
Not that it makes much difference, perhaps, but as far as I can tell from looking at archives of the Arabic Wikipedia sysop list, both the jailed Wikipedians (User:OsamaK and User:Ziad) had stopped being administrators around 2017, several years before their arrests:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20161008095137&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ar.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;خاص:عرض_المستخدمين&#x2F;sysop" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20161008095137&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ar.wikipe...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20171031110427&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ar.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;خاص:عرض_المستخدمين&#x2F;sysop" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20171031110427&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ar.wikipe...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20171031110427&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ar.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;خاص:عرض_المستخدمين&#x2F;sysop" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20171031110427&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ar.wikipe...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20180821114358&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ar.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;خاص:عرض_المستخدمين&#x2F;sysop" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20180821114358&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ar.wikipe...</a><p>Edit: Desysop logs (stated reason in both cases was lack of local activity, not any wrongdoing):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xtools.wmflabs.org&#x2F;ec-rightschanges&#x2F;ar.wikipedia.org&#x2F;OsamaK" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xtools.wmflabs.org&#x2F;ec-rightschanges&#x2F;ar.wikipedia.org...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xtools.wmflabs.org&#x2F;ec-rightschanges&#x2F;ar.wikipedia.org&#x2F;Ziad" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xtools.wmflabs.org&#x2F;ec-rightschanges&#x2F;ar.wikipedia.org...</a>
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nerdponx超过 2 年前
This article is somewhat confusingly written.<p>This is the timeline that I could gather:<p>1. In 2020, Saudi Arabia arrested two Saudi nationals who at one point had Wikipedia admin privileges, for posting things that the Saudi state didn&#x27;t like.<p>2. In 2022, Wikimedia did some kind of investigation and banned 16 users for a &quot;conflict of interest&quot;, but didn&#x27;t provide further details.<p>3. Now, whistleblowers are alleging that Saudi state agents had &quot;infiltrated&quot; the &quot;highest ranks&quot; of Wikipedia admins, that this infiltration is what enabled the arrest of the two Saudi admins, that the 16 banned users were those same Saudi state agents.<p>There is a further implication that now Wikimedia is denying the whistleblowers&#x27; claims in order to keep from further upsetting anyone in the Saudi government.
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VWWHFSfQ超过 2 年前
What is a Wikipedia &quot;admin&quot;? Is this just a person that edits pages?
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Vaslo超过 2 年前
Wikipedia just looks like a PR writeup for just about any celebrity.
pvg超过 2 年前
Discussed yesterday:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34267223" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34267223</a>
sn_master超过 2 年前
They were jailed IN Saudi Arabia, not FOR spying for Saudi Arabia. Please de-ambiguate the title.
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zidad超过 2 年前
Maybe the US can set a nice example by dropping Julian Assange&#x27;s charges first
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