Tax System in the Faroe Islands

&gt; THE FAROES ARE ONE OF THE RICHEST COUNTRIES in the world by per capita GDP—even slightly richer than Denmark itself.<p>The Faroe Islands are a strange place. There aren&#x27;t many people, yet you&#x27;ll see huge infrastructure projects to literally drill tunnels through mountains to connect at 2-3 families with the main roads. A gigantic amount of public money gets pumped into every part of their industry and infrastructure, funded by Denmark.<p>On a completely unrelated note, the the wife of the previous prime minister is from the Faroe Islands, and he has been known for being bad at separating private and public interests, and for cases of pumping money into specific monopolistic fishermens pockets while taking huge donations from the same to his own funds. The two of them also own a company that plans tours from Denmark to the Faroe Islands.<p>He&#x27;s no longer prime minister but managed to create a central party that was key in establishing the current government. I&#x27;m sure we&#x27;ll see a continuation of pumping money into the Faroe Islands.<p>All that said, it&#x27;s a lovely place to visit, especially for people who enjoy hiking and don&#x27;t mind damp weather, and there&#x27;s some cool places to see puffins.

Taxing businesses on gross revenues (what “no deductions” means) is a huge bias in favor of vertical integration and large conglomerates.<p>If I’m a small company and participate in a chain of 8 companies providing a good or service, there is a large multiple of tax paid on that good as compared to a competitor who manages to do all 8 things in a single company. (This is why VAT taxation works better and is more common than a gross receipts tax.)

They could send that journalist to almost any country and experience a better tax system than the US. Although it sounds like a nice trip and he got some hikes in.<p>&gt; Filing taxes takes up an estimated 6.5 billion hours each year—as the right-leaning Tax Foundation points out, the equivalent of 3.1 million people working full-time for the whole year.<p>It&#x27;s just a staggering level of waste. But hey, keep shuffling stuff around until that ”obnoxious paperwork” is technically only one piece of paper (except for all the schedules you need to also include). It&#x27;s beyond dumb. Sort yourselves out, America.

If I was a government body responsible for setting tax rules after reading the article I still haven&#x27;t learned anything.<p>First of all, tax systems are typically result of huge forces within the country and represent history of negotiating between parties or other groups of people that each tries to get something for themselves while the government needs to deal with finite budget and groups of people dissatisfied that somebody else got something but not them.<p>Second, Faroe Island is a tiny, tiny country. With any kind of organisation, as the organisation grows things get more and more complicated.<p>And third, they point out Faroe Island has a huge GDP that comes from a fortunate resource. Countries that are in this position tend to have simpler tax systems because they do not need to rely on their citizens. Citizens rightly assume that if the country has a national resource they are entitled to have the resource pay for the infrastructure and government and not them. There is no need to fight to figure out where the money will come for this or that project -- the answer is always pretty much the same and it is not to put a levy on citizens but rather on the resource the country has.

As someone who does Indian direct and indirect taxes as my day job, I can comfortably say it is &quot;fucked up&quot;.<p>The problem starts small. They introduced a new indirect tax act in 2017 (gst) and it was fine for a couple of weeks but suddenly every business user was supposed to get registered at a centralized portal. Cool but there was penalty for delay and penalty for filing returns late. Cool. So they got an amendment. Fine. Next day a notification. Next day a circular.<p>In the last 5-6 years, they have changed the act in like 1200-1300 times by way of various amendments, rules, notifications, orders, not to talk about court judgments.<p>You are NEVER sure if you know something to be a fact when in fact 2 years ago a particular notification amended the act to be read in a certain way. Then another amended it further. Then again.<p>All the while the govt accepts the fact that all taxpayers are not paying govt their dues so they treat them as such, Financial criminals so there is jail provisions even.<p>Direct tax is no different. You annual &quot; income tax return&quot; is to be prepared in 1 our of 7 forms. Cool. Then you have to see various schedules and time limits and audits and compliances and other stuff. A lot of stuff DOES MAKE SENSE but you have to have practiced for 5-12 years before saying that. Then it kinda makes sense on an overall level. For everyone else, go fuck yourself.

&gt; “When the year is over, almost everybody ends up with ‘Oh, it’s correct. I don’t have to pay any more, and I don’t get any money back,’” said Mørkøre. Continuous collection also eliminates the time risk of the government losing out on tax payments if companies go bankrupt before TAKS could cash their checks.<p>Is this not normal in most of Europe? In Ireland, I&#x27;ve found it&#x27;s usually only off by a few cent at most, which is then adjusted for in the next calendar year by automatically reducing tax credits appropriately.

Let&#x27;s list out a partial list of major US tax problems:<p>1. As we all know, tax preparation is intentionally complicated and hard thanks to lobbying by the tax preparation industry;<p>2. Access to the financial system should be a right. This article correctly points out there are ~6 million &quot;unbanked&quot; individuals. I haven&#x27;t actually seen this problem in other developed countries. People will quite literally take their paycheck and cash it;<p>3. Also noted here: decades of Republicans starving the IRS (and pretty much everything else the government does bar the military of course). This creates a cycle where a starved government is then used as an argument to further starve the government. It&#x27;s not surprising the Republicans are so incensed at last year&#x27;s bill to fund the IRS and paint it as armed IRS officers coming and seizing your mobile home to try and rally support for it. It&#x27;s the same reason the 15% minimum corporate tax was opposed even though the nominal corporate tax rate is 21%: to benefit the ultra-wealthy and corporations;<p>4. Deductions. Honestly pretty much everything should be gotten rid of for personal income other than <i>maybe</i> retirement saving. But there are simply way too many vested interests here for this to ever happen;<p>5. We need to annually tax unrealized capital gains;<p>6. Stop double taxing dividends. This leads to a lot of unnecessary complexity (eg passthrough corporation tax benefits). Dividend tax imputation is not hard;<p>7. Tax trusts as we do estates;<p>8. Tax land use based on assessed value, particularly for single-family houses. A $1 million house should pay higher property tax than a $1 million apartment.<p>The US really is a dystopian hellscape.

I was just thinking while reading this that with a country with a small population like the Faroe Islands, it is a bit harder to do regulatory capture. The impact is far greater and the established legacy is one towards simplicity than complexity. Changes are just felt more.<p>In my case, I think my taxes in Norway are easier to deal with as compared to filing US taxes just because there isn&#x27;t much incentive to take advantage of the bureaucracy and procedures around it like in the US. It&#x27;s a little complex in Norway, but I can and have guessed correctly what my tax burden would be outside what was directly reported to Skattetaten. I imagine it is even easier for tiny countries (or semi-autonomous regions) like what the Faroese have.

For several years now I&#x27;ve been wondering about a couple of things.<p>One would be to come up with a simple taxation formula for individual income.<p>(1) No deductions.<p>(2) Peg the tax rate to a formula, something like tax = 1% per $10,000 of income. (These specific numbers would not work very well.)<p>This would be simple, absolutely predictable, and would set a maximum income at whatever the culture decided was right.<p>And&#x2F;Or: eliminate inheritance.<p>This could replace a maximum income because no one could pass along a fortune to heirs, and wealth would be automatically recycled on death.<p>(1) Set up a citizen&#x27;s commission that selects members at random for a three-year term, 1&#x2F;3 of members to be replaced each year.<p>(2) The commission decides what entities are worthwhile. (Charitable, non-profit, humanitarian, research, whatever.)<p>(3) At death, any remaining funds belonging to a person are disbursed.<p>(4) Disbursed funds go to eligible entities selected by the deceased, or to the U.S. Treasury as a default.<p>(5) Wealthy individuals can support their children through college up to age 25 or so, after which the kids are on their own.<p>(6) Not necessarily any limit on how much wealth a person could accumulate because it would be impossible to develop a hereditary plutocratic class.

In Portugal, if you are an employee or pensioner and have no other sources of income, the tax form is filled in automatically for you. Just confirm if you want, and hit &#x27;send&#x27;.

Without a doubt, the US tax system is broken in mumerous ways. To a close approximation, <i>everyone</i> agrees on that.<p>But the OP&#x27;s notion makes about as much sense as asking if Amazon can somehow draw lessons for improving the efficiency and simplicity of its global software and hardware infrastructure by studying the super-simple software and hardware infrastructure of some tiny company. It strikes me as... highly unlikely.<p>The economy of the Faroe Islands is both very, very small (annual GDP is 166x smaller than Amazon&#x27;s annual revenues) and very, very simple (45% of exports are salmon fish), making it much easier to find a really simple system that works reasonably well for everyone. A quick comparison is instructive:<p><pre><code> Population GDP -------------------------------------- United States 333,287,000 $25,035.0B Faroe Islands 54,000 $3.1B -------------------------------------- </code></pre> That said, by all accounts the islands are incredibly beautiful and their people are remarkably nice.

Most of the benefits listed, apart from the extremely simple tax code, exists in all modern countries country (here I use the tautological definition of “modern” as meaning somewhere where everyone has a bank account and “doing your taxes” is typically less cumbersome than accepting a cookie banner).

In a diverse economy with many sectors, having a tax system that incentivizes participation and capital movement towards some sectors is beneficial.<p>velocity within an economy is more important than public coffers, especially when the attempts at management are distributed to the private sector, compared to a single flawed attempt centralized at the public sector. In systems like the US, the distributed risk takers compete with the centralized attempt or simultaneously collaborate with it.<p>The &quot;loopholes&quot;, some of which are indeed loop holes, function to incentivize certain behaviors. In almost all cases, someone that wants to simply accumulate <i>cash</i> will be taxed the heaviest, the entire system is saying move it around in specific ways, keep the velocity high. create, invest, hire.

Well,<p>1. the tax rate is high (50%)<p>2. resources (fish) is widely corrupt and just a few billioners reap the benefits (proportionally)<p>3. there are loopholes. Shippers who work for a faroe islands company, work abroad, has their residence in an other country pay 0% tax (something like that)<p>4. the tax code has not much less complexity than say norway.

All that and yet not a word on actual tax rates, unless I missed it.

Faroe Islands is a tiny speck. Countries are a cross between oil tankers and nuclear power plants.<p>There&#x27;s nothing to learn politicians have debated every single tax system known to human civilization. But even small changes are Herculean tasks.

tl;dr simple tax system with no deductions

Taxation is theft, with extra steps.

It&#x27;s completely irrational but any mention of this place is tainted by their dolphin hunts. How about learn about their taxes and they learn about PR.