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‘Films are vulnerable’: The battle to preserve Eastern Europe’s analogue movies (2022)

132 点作者 robtherobber超过 2 年前

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jacquesm超过 2 年前
Old celluloid is also crazy flammable. The activation energy very low and even during the manufacturing process explosions happened. Archival storage of old celluloid prior to digitization is not something you want to undertake in quantity without the proper gear and storage equipment, as well as a fire extinguisher.<p>The problem with the film is that as it ages it becomes even more flammable than it originally was and it has a huge surface area to react with (unlike say a billiard ball or a pen made of the same material).<p>Quite a bit of historical material was lost to time in several huge fires. To make things worse: it doesn&#x27;t necessarily require a source of ignition.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nontoxichub.com&#x2F;celluloidfilmhazards" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nontoxichub.com&#x2F;celluloidfilmhazards</a><p>Not quite at &#x27;stuff I won&#x27;t work with&#x27; level but definitely worthy of respect.
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TedDoesntTalk超过 2 年前
If you want to watch some of these films and other old East European films with English subtitles:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;easterneuropeanmovies.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;easterneuropeanmovies.com&#x2F;</a><p>Searchable by decade and by country
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WalterBright超过 2 年前
It seems like the primary obstacle to film preservation is copyright law. Allowing people to freely copy those old films means they are far more likely to survive.<p>Sometimes I hate copyright law. I bought a set of all the Rocky+Bullwinkle cartoons. Surprise, surprise, the original music was removed and replaced with some generic noise. The cartoons are just unwatchable.<p>Married with Children also replaced their Sinatra theme song with some generic awful music. I just have to grind my teeth and fast forward over that.
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ThinkBeat超过 2 年前
Yes but what to convert it to and who will store it?<p>There should be a UN like international effort to set up resources for storing digital media (books, music, film, tv, games, journals, comics etc) for the long term.<p>A few hundred years for sure.<p>All digital media made in the entire world and all that can be digitized stored from the beginning until the end. A constant accumulating treasure.<p>Doesn&#x27;t have to be streaming, but there should be a way for a person to request a copy. (if permissible by the copyright holder)<p>One thing that hurts me to think about are the hundreds of thousands of books that you cant read.<p>The book has a small run, never republished, and for the most part never to be seen again. I wish each one was submitted to the above archive,<p>The copyright holder is making 0 by holding is hostage from people reading it. Allowing people to read it thus would not lead to less of revenue.<p>Perhaps a system of micropayments for still copyrighted but will never be seen again media.<p>I say books because I love books, but movies, etc as well. All of it.<p>I have started making a tiny effort myself by scanning and typesetting book published by members of my family a ways back.<p>I know that Library of Congress has a lot of good stuff, but it only collects fromt he US (I think) In Norway Nasjoanlbiblioteket has a lot of stuff that is Norwegian.
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chadlavi超过 2 年前
Film is vulnerable, but at least the CEO of a streaming service can&#x27;t just capriciously decide to delete it. Also servers are just as vulnerable to fire, earthquake, sabotage, etc.
runjake超过 2 年前
I remember back in, probably the late 1990s or early 2000s, when my org was scrambling to copy analog media to &quot;immortal&quot; digital CD-Rs.<p>20 years later, they went into some of the archives to discover that most of the CD-Rs were unreadable. The material had degraded severely enough that the material had observable pits (holes) in them.<p>Plan accordingly. Digital copies require it, too.<p>Edit: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Disc_rot" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Disc_rot</a>
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simontheowl超过 2 年前
Same is unfortunately true for a lot of Eastern European music. There are thousands of great soviet recordings of various classical and folk pieces that have never been digitized. And the current atmosphere over there is not honed in on preserving art. A lot of the recordings are only available on 50-60 year old vinyls which are getting harder and harder to find in a decent condition. Been digitizing a lot of my favorites in my spare time.
sam_lowry_超过 2 年前
The article is so wrong that I do not know where to start.<p>First off, historic Western films are no less vulnerable, because businesses do not want to deal with copyright issues, and citizens are taught from the childhood that sharing is stealing.<p>OTOH, copyright is still a fairly new idea in Eastern Europe, so fans tend to digitize and share more often.<p>Compare rutracker to the pirate bay. Even in its heyday TPB did not have the level of commitment of the community that rutracker consistently exhibits for 18 years already.<p>P.S. Here is the Lighthouse (2006) refered in the first paragraphs in FHD quality [1]. Enjoy.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rutracker.org&#x2F;forum&#x2F;viewtopic.php?t=5979083" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rutracker.org&#x2F;forum&#x2F;viewtopic.php?t=5979083</a>
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