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How France’s Free will reinvent mobile

238 点作者 jaybol超过 13 年前

18 条评论

ravloony超过 13 年前
I remember when I got to university (Nantes, France). On my very first day, another guy said to me: "By the way if you are shopping around an internet connection, go with Free, they rock!". No other user has ever said that to me about a telecoms company. Not once.<p>And they did rock. It cost 29.99€ per month for 2MB/s at the time (2003), which was 4 to 20 times the competition (my brother had a 128kb/s connection, I seem to recall - it took ages to download songs from napster. It kept on getting better, too. Within 6 months I had 8Mb/s, and a year after that 18, then 24.<p>The modem was huge, but it told the time in letters of green, and had its own IP adress. I lived in a tiny flat in the same building as my other brother, so we trailed a network cable across the corridor - enough bandwidth for both of us. We moved to a new flat, and they upgraded the modem, or Freebox (every modem in France is now called *box)<p>That was one of the most successful market disruptions I have had the opportunity to witness. I think M. Niel just did it again. He's turned the leaders of a market into followers, desperately copying his every move. Watch and you'll see. They already started, trying to undercut what they thought was Free's offer with Sosh (Orange) and Red (SFR). Too little, too late. I think the market will vote with it's wallet. Things should get interesting.
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GuiA超过 13 年前
I'm French, and moved to the US a couple years ago. The high price and awkwardness of internet and mobile phone offers here compared to France is one of the biggest tech differences that struck me, as I always had imagined that the US would be far ahead.<p>I still don't own a smartphone (I use Google Voice most of the time at home/work, and a pay-as-you-go phone the rest of time), because the offers and price just don't make sense to me.<p>It's clearly a market that's ripe for disruption, and there are a couple interesting and promising startups in that space, although I'm not sure how likely it is to change given the huge monopoly and control the carriers have consistently had.
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chmike超过 13 年前
According to the live annoucements this morning:<p>Unlimited phone calls into 40 countries, unilimited SMS and MMS, unrestricted internet access up to 3GB : 19.99€/months or 15.99€/months for ADSL Free subscribers.<p>60min and 60sms : 2€ or 0€ for ADSL Free subscribers.<p>Phones are not include but can be bought with independent 12, 24, 36 months credit plan. ie. iPhone 4Gs is provided with 1€ entry and 19.99€/months over 36 months.
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baby超过 13 年前
Trying to watch the conference[1]. Some people compared that guy to Steve Jobs, I personally think he's not a good orator but is trying to be. His first lines were "we are dumbasses, but now you guys are the dumbasses not me because I already joined free mobile". Pretty aggressive.<p>He's a fantastic engineer though. Trying to stream more and will edit after.<p>edit: having a really hard time to stream. Words that come back a lot in the first 10 minutes: "ras le bol" ("discontent" in a familiar way). He's insulting a lot the 3 other operators, give numbers and the source! (I like). It's actually very catchy to watch eventhough I think it's pretty brutal for an official show supposed to launch the 4th big operator in France.<p>edit2: apparently SFR one of their big competition is doing really bad in stocks these few minutes[2] and the first trend is indeed #freemobile[3] on twitter.<p>edit3: found a better link for the show[4]. Just finished it. Brilliant. The show was simple, as simple as the offer (only 2 plans). Brutal, easy to watch, beautiful. As he said at the end of the video, there will be a before and an after january 10th in France (something you cannot really grasp if you're not from there).<p>[1] <a href="http://live.free.fr/" rel="nofollow">http://live.free.fr/</a><p>[2] <a href="http://bourse.sfr.fr/actions/cours/vivendi-FR0000127771,FR.html" rel="nofollow">http://bourse.sfr.fr/actions/cours/vivendi-FR0000127771,FR.h...</a><p>[3] <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23FreeMobile" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23FreeMobile</a><p>[4] <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmsvx2_free-lancement-de-l-offre-mobile_tech?start=0#from=embediframe" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmsvx2_free-lancement-de-l-...</a>
agumonkey超过 13 年前
I thought they couldn't pull a small sized contract, but they did it. 2 euros for 60min/60sms is almost a social advance.. ~5 times less than the average 60min contract, and 7 times personnally.
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pefavre超过 13 年前
They did it! Unlimited calls, national and international; 3Go fair use of data; for 15,99€/mth (20,4$/mth). That's what I call disruption!
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loup-vaillant超过 13 年前
This sounds great. Can't wait to see the detailed terms.<p>Even better, it appears that Free will propose <i>actual</i> internet connexions with their data plan. Quoting <a href="http://www.forfaitfree.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forfaitfree.com/</a> (translated from French):<p>&#62; <i>9h16 : According to Free, the Internet is e-mail, the web, newsgroups, P2P, etc. So, an actual, unrestricted internet.</i><p>I just hope they do mean to give you a public IP (I'd be content with a /64v6, and delighted if it was a static one.)
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gcp超过 13 年前
Is this the same company that "reinvented" the GPL by claiming that as you "rent" your modem (chock-full of GPL software) from them, they are not distributing anything and they do not have to abide by the GPL?<p>(Feel free to correct me if they have changed their stance)
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enqk超过 13 年前
So, unlimited data &#38; calls for 19.99 €, with a reduced price of 15.99 € for customers of the broadband plan. And a specially priced 2 €/month plan (60min calls / 60sms.)
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lolizbak超过 13 年前
A great demonstration of a market disruption by pricing. Xavier Niel's show was a mix of Jobs (staging, rhythm, ...) and Bezos (pricing, competition, ...). Wow !
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mmahemoff超过 13 年前
This deal is great in France, then go five minutes across any of its borders and you'll be paying a multiple of Euros per <i>megabyte</i>.<p>Someone, maybe Free, needs to deal with pan-Europe roaming with the same disruptive vigour Free is dealing with the domestic French market.
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blahedo超过 13 年前
This is brilliant:<p><i>"For example, Free.fr used the set-top box for automatically sharing a portion of one’s broadband connection via Wi-Fi with other Free.fr customers."</i>
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jtheory超过 13 年前
Here's the part that really piqued my interest:<p><i>This Free.Fr free Wi-Fi network is going to play a pivotal role in the soon-to-be-launched service, which will be using 42 Mbps HSPA+ technology. The company has built a network of 15,000 macrocells, but those 5 million “nano cells” are going to be the key difference maker, Niel points out.<p>Free.fr’s newer set-top boxes will have built-in femtocells.</i><p>I live in a rural part of France, and my village sits in a mobile signal dead zone. My mobile phone only gets reception up in the attic of my house (0 bars, otherwise, usually), or I can go outside and walk a half km to make a (poor quality) call.<p>I do have DSL, though... is this (above) finally going to give me mobile reception, through a set-top box?<p>(Please please please?)
swalsh超过 13 年前
I'd be curious to see the level of quality in their service. They probably have an advantage of the box being connected directly to their network. However It has been my experience that femtocells are bad at switching from the micronetwork to the macronetwork. Though my best guess is that is related to latency..
sp332超过 13 年前
How can you get 28 Mbit/s over DSL? I'm only 2 miles from my DSLAM and I can't get more than 1.5 Mbit/s.
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goodweeds超过 13 年前
Sounds somewhat like a rip-off of republicwireless.com
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stewbrew超过 13 年前
While this might be a nice move for people living in France, I fail to see the relevance of this post at a global (or even European) level.
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cm-t超过 13 年前
On live at live.free.fr