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Wizards of the Coast Releases SRD Under Creative Commons License (CC-BY-4.0)

310 点作者 xaviex超过 2 年前

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vaylian超过 2 年前
A bit more context:<p>* Wizards of the Coast (WoTC) has been tasked by Hasbro (which owns WoTC) to drastically increase profits over a few years.<p>* WoTC has been aggressively increasing prices on Magic the Gathering (MTG) and drastically increased the diversity of products. This overwhelmed even people who follow and produce MTG news. Wallet fatique is rampant and people are disgruntled.<p>* WoTC releases the 30th aniversary edition for MTG, which is 60 random cards for 1000 $ which are officially marked as non-tournament legal. The MTG community is furious and for once people from all corners of the community come together to boycott this product. The rage is great and enduring.<p>* WoTC fails to meet expectations and the stock prices plummet<p>* To do damage control, WoTC&#x2F;Hasbro annouces a &quot;fireside chat&quot; for their shareholders where they try to explain the situation but basically just say &quot;we did nothing wrong and we are trying to extract a lot of money from Dungeons and Dragons next&quot;<p>* Unlike the MTG community, the DnD community is very good at organizing a unified response and the shitstorm came swiftly and took WoTC by surprise. (Don&#x27;t mess with Dungeon Masters who know how to call together a group of people)<p>The real problem is the managers at WoTC that don&#x27;t really care about the games. They only care about money. I expect more bad things in the future.
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SeanAnderson超过 2 年前
The community WOTC built over decades shouldn&#x27;t have to give feedback that 85%+ identify with in order to achieve results that are desirable. If community sentiment is so lopsided then what was the rationale to make the decision in the first place and how was the communities&#x27; desire not implicitly understood?<p>There is no doubt in my mind that WOTC (let&#x27;s be real, Hasbro) has enough self-awareness to have realized they were encroaching significantly on their core demographic. They chose to do so anyway and are backtracking out of an interest of self-preservation rather than a customer-first mindset.<p>I find this shameful enough behavior to warrant a legitimate, heartfelt apology. Instead, they present themselves as benevolent caretakers listening to their communities&#x27; response. This comes across as tone-deaf because they&#x27;ve already lost the trust of the community and don&#x27;t seem to have learned how to take ownership of that fact.<p>Still, this is a better result than if they&#x27;d stayed their advertised course. So, for that, I am thankful.
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ivanstojic超过 2 年前
My TTRPG group has been playing together for several years - on and off. We&#x27;d been mostly playing D&amp;D 5e, even though we had members clamoring for other systems. After the WotC fiasco started blowing up, we finally bought a couple of Pathfinder 2e books, ran a few trial characters and one-shots. We are now in process of starting a new campaign entirely based on Pathfinder that we expect could take a couple of months to play out.<p>It really only took us one session to figure out the major mechanical systems in the gameplay, and a few we are still learning about. The major component remains the role playing experience which is the same, no matter which dice you throw to decide outcomes of situations.<p>I think Hasbro will soon realize that while the social impact of the name D&amp;D is deep, the stickiness of the system is much lower than they gambled on. It&#x27;s unlikely that any of my member group will soon buy anything new from them.
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gpm超过 2 年前
CC-BY-4.0 for those wondering <i>which</i> creative commons license. That means attribution required, but no significant other limitations.
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djur超过 2 年前
Great news. I notice they don&#x27;t say anything about the licensing of &quot;D&amp;D One&quot;, and I&#x27;m guessing there&#x27;s a good reason for that, but there&#x27;s a huge difference between using a different license for your new product and trying to change the license of your existing one.
krisroadruck超过 2 年前
What a huge and welcomed about-face. Massive kudos to the community of dedicated fans, players, and creators who helped get this done.
kayodelycaon超过 2 年前
Well. That was unexpected. Given what&#x27;s been happening to Twitter, I didn&#x27;t have any hope that WOTC would do anything sensible.<p>I suspect they&#x27;ll pull this bullshit again the next time someone looks at a balance sheet.
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ArtWomb超过 2 年前
&gt;&gt;&gt; For the fewer than 20 creators worldwide who make more than $750,000 in income in a year, we will add a royalty starting in 2024. So, even for the creators making significant money selling D&amp;D supplements and games, no royalties will be due for 2023 and all revenue below $750,000 in future years will be royalty-free.<p>My &quot;Star Frontiers&quot; fan video game is go!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.starfrontiers.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.starfrontiers.com&#x2F;</a>
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jron超过 2 年前
WOTC (Hasbro) was trying to revoke a license the authors intended to be irrevocable. Everything else was a red herring. I&#x27;m guessing their legal team had more to do with this change of heart than consumer&#x2F;publisher feedback.
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sundarurfriend超过 2 年前
So from a little bit of digging around for context (as a non-DnD player):<p>* SRD = System Reference Document [1], is a kind of specification of the DnD rules, that people use to create add-on DnD-related content.<p>* OGL = Open Game License [2], which the SRD is licensed under.<p>* There was a(n apparently very unpopular) proposal to move to OGL 1.2 (which I guess is more restrictive).<p>* Now it seems like SRD 5.1 will be dual-licensed under both OGL 1.0a and Creative Commons.<p>(I can feel a rabbit hole awaiting me if I dig further, and I&#x27;ve gotten enough of a gist to satisfy myself, so I didn&#x27;t look into what a VTT policy is.)<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dungeonsdragons.fandom.com&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;System_Reference_Document" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dungeonsdragons.fandom.com&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;System_Reference_Doc...</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Open_Game_License" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Open_Game_License</a>
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miiiiiike超过 2 年前
All of the tumult of the past few weeks has been fun, and, just what D&amp;D needed. If Wizards had been savvier (or more malicious) they would have pulled back on the OGL little by little.<p>I’ve been following the OGL since its release back when I was a a broke HS kid obsessed with the idea of Free Software. I even had a (very) short conversation with Richard Stallman about it “it’s good enough for a game.” I didn’t agree.<p>This is great, and, completely expected if you know anything about the people involved.<p>Being able to publish anything you want and still make use of the SRD is a great thing for D&amp;D.. But I still kinda hoped they’d blow it up so we’d get a bloom of new systems. Whatever, at least publishers are more likely to move away from OGL-like licenses and over to CC now.
david2ndaccount超过 2 年前
Disappointed this is only the 5e srd and not the 3.0&#x2F;3.5 one.
VyseofArcadia超过 2 年前
I hope whoever made the call to needlessly burn all of WotC&#x27;s goodwill gets the boot.<p>I&#x27;m sure Paizo and Kobold Press are going to go ahead with ORC and Black Flag now that WotC has shown them its priorities.
throw0101c超过 2 年前
So no morality clause either?
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ulizzle超过 2 年前
The silver lining in this shitstorm is that a lot of D&amp;D-like games are going to be getting lots of attention. There&#x27;s better systems out there. IMO, D&amp;D proper died out at 4e, when it tried to copy WoW.<p>If you like horror, check out Kult: Divinity Lost. And for a tight game-system, check out Blades in the Dark, which is like...steampunk Peaky Blinders.
trollied超过 2 年前
There&#x27;s 2 great episodes of the Opening Arguments podcast that cover the begginings of this extensively:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openargs.com&#x2F;oa675-gizmodos-critical-hit-piece-on-wizards-of-the-coast&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openargs.com&#x2F;oa675-gizmodos-critical-hit-piece-on-wi...</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openargs.com&#x2F;oa677-our-critical-hit-piece-on-the-gizmodos-critical-hit-piece-on-wizards-of-the-coast&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openargs.com&#x2F;oa677-our-critical-hit-piece-on-the-giz...</a><p>The Legal Eagle youtube video on this subject is also great: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=iZQJQYqhAgY">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=iZQJQYqhAgY</a>
lincolnq超过 2 年前
Can someone explain more about what happened here?
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wolverine876超过 2 年前
A reminder that the old OGL (the one they say they will now continue with) is still nonsense: According to at least some IP attorneys, it restricts your existing legal rights for little benefit, and in most cases you&#x27;re better off without it.<p>Here&#x27;s the EFF: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eff.org&#x2F;deeplinks&#x2F;2023&#x2F;01&#x2F;beware-gifts-dragons-how-dds-open-gaming-license-may-have-become-trap-creators" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eff.org&#x2F;deeplinks&#x2F;2023&#x2F;01&#x2F;beware-gifts-dragons-h...</a><p>Also, they claimed they could revoke the old OGL at any time; I assume that hasn&#x27;t changed.
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PostOnce超过 2 年前
WotC does not own the concept of elves, dwarves, or dragons. Nor the concept of dice.<p>D&amp;D is a strong franchise, but the merchandise and rulesets are hardly necessary to play the game.<p>To play RPGs, even practically-D&amp;D-in-all-but-name, all you need is dice and paper.<p>Nerds are wont to roll their own.<p>I may not be a regular guest feature in the HBR, but it seems like common sense even to me that this is a strategically, financially dangerous path to take given their customer base.
trynewideas超过 2 年前
WotC&#x27;s PDFs are untagged and convert poorly, so if you want a Markdown version, try <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;srd.wiki" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;srd.wiki</a>.<p>If you absolutely must convert it yourself, use pdfminer, which does a good job with the columns and doesn&#x27;t need a ton of editing to smooth out.
tunesmith超过 2 年前
Is there actually not a catch here? I&#x27;m only somewhat familiar with the debate.
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jeh993超过 2 年前
It takes a lot of chutzpah to think you&#x27;re going to get a 3 or 4 page license past a customer base that enjoys reading hundreds of pages of rules (and exploiting said rules) as a hobby.
wly_cdgr超过 2 年前
They gotta eat some humble pie and take a page from chesscom&#x27;s playbook. Let people on Arena have all the cards but sell memberships
tptacek超过 2 年前
So this is a clean, complete win, right? Once the license controversy started, there was no reasonable ask beyond this outcome?
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kderbyma超过 2 年前
Sweet. That&#x27;s nice to see
lofaszvanitt超过 2 年前
But Baldur&#x27;s Gate III will bring in a lot of money. Maybe wait for that.
imwillofficial超过 2 年前
And that folks is how you do it. Faith in humanity restored
kubb超过 2 年前
nice