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Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

401 点作者 tjhill超过 2 年前

41 条评论

yreg超过 2 年前
&gt; [The Secret Service agent] asked my for some picture ID. I have some fake photo ID&#x27;s that a friend made for me years before, when we could make realistic photo ID&#x27;s from our computers. Almost nobody else could do this because printers weren&#x27;t good enough. But I had an expensive early generation dye sublimation printer and made some fake ID&#x27;s for fun. I had one favorite fake ID that I&#x27;d used for almost every airplane flight, domestic and international, that I&#x27;d taken for many years. It says &quot;Laser Safety Officer&quot; and has a photo of me with an eyepatch. It also says &quot;Department of Defiance&quot; in an arc, in a font that looks like &quot;Department of Defense&quot; to the casual glance.<p>&gt; As I opened my wallet, I considered whether I should risk using this fake ID on the Secret Service. It probably amounted to a real crime. I had my driver&#x27;s license as well. But you only live once and only a few of us even get a chance like this once in our lives. So I handed him the fake ID. He noted and returned it. The Secret Service took an ID that said &quot;Laser Safety Officer&quot; with a photo of myself wearing an eyepatch.<p>Woz plays life like an RPG.
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O__________O超过 2 年前
Related US Mint page for $2 bill sheets:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;catalog.usmint.gov&#x2F;paper-currency&#x2F;uncut-currency&#x2F;?&amp;prefv1=2dollar#prefn1=coinDenomination&amp;prefv1=2dollar" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;catalog.usmint.gov&#x2F;paper-currency&#x2F;uncut-currency&#x2F;?&amp;p...</a><p>Basically he tells story in a way that average person assume he’s printing fake bills, when in reality he’s just cutting and binding sets of uncut bills into a notepad.<p>Lying to a federal investigator though is a federal crime and one that’s frequently resulted in prison sentences.<p>Worth noting that Jobs &amp; Woz first product was actually a device to make illegal free calls:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.todayifoundout.com&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;2012&#x2F;10&#x2F;steve-jobs-first-business-was-selling-blue-boxes-that-allowed-users-to-get-free-phone-service-illegally&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.todayifoundout.com&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;2012&#x2F;10&#x2F;steve-jobs-f...</a>
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jsz0超过 2 年前
One of the greatest flaws of modern society is how we systematically beat this natural childlike enthusiasm for bending the rules out of people. I&#x27;m just old enough to remember when &#x27;it was just a joke&#x27; was a legitimate excuse that could get you out of trouble. If the joke was funny and didn&#x27;t hurt anyone you might get a slap not he wrist but people of all ages appreciated your effort to make the world a less grim place.
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JoeAltmaier超过 2 年前
Lots of timid, humorless folks having trouble imagining not being a sheep and always coloring inside the lines.<p>I for one wish there were more real people around, living life for liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Like we were intended to live.
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haunter超过 2 年前
You can still buy uncut sheets<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;catalog.usmint.gov&#x2F;paper-currency&#x2F;uncut-currency&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;catalog.usmint.gov&#x2F;paper-currency&#x2F;uncut-currency&#x2F;</a>
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jabart超过 2 年前
As a kid I was in the store with my parents and we were in line for the register. Some guy turned around and looked at me and said &quot;Hey kid, ever seen a $2 bill before?&quot; I said no, and he ripped off a $2 from a pad and handed it to me. To this day I have this $2 bill because I thought it was fake. This is the midwest, no way was this Woz but now I feel that this might not be a fake $2 bill anymore.
dsq超过 2 年前
Was Wozniak already “the Woz” of Apple fame when this story took place? In which case I assume he could afford the best lawyers on the planet if necessary, plus the President calling to get him out of trouble.<p>An ordinary civilian might fall down that hole never to come out again. Just showing a fake ID to a fed could be met with serious retribution.
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pigtailgirl超过 2 年前
-- He was on Steve-O&#x27;s podcast - few months ago - the whole episode is hilarious - - the $2 bill stuff - its at 1:25:25 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=CRi8r0XQFHU">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=CRi8r0XQFHU</a> - Steve-O (guy from jackass) podcast is great - btw --
bentobean超过 2 年前
&gt; I carry large sheets, folded in my pocket, and sometimes pull out scissors and cut a few off to pay for something in a store. It&#x27;s just for comedy, as the $2 bills cost nearly $3 each when purchased on sheets.<p>&gt; When he said that they don&#x27;t make bills like this I asked &quot;They don&#x27;t?&quot; as though I thought it was quite normal to have sheets. My answer was also so emotionless as to confuse him about me, and to make me seem even more evasive. This, again, I do for a comedic effect.<p>Is it just me, or does the man simply not understand what <i>comedy</i> is?<p>I enjoy a good joke as much as the next guy. That said, if you are routinely paying for items at the register by cutting bills off of a sheet with scissors and handing the police a fake ID when asked for identification, you’re basically asking for trouble. And you’re almost certainly going to waste a lot of people’s valuable time.<p>Generally speaking, I do really like Woz as a person. But in this particular instance, he does kind of come across as a big pain in the ass.
helsontaveras18超过 2 年前
I do not understand how the story ended.<p>And that was a very odd story… he is an edgy guy.
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csallen超过 2 年前
<i>&gt; I&#x27;d already transferred the maximum yearly tax free gift of $10,000 to each of my kids.</i><p>If I&#x27;m not mistaken, one tip I&#x27;ve heard is that one can transfer more than that in gifts yearly, and although that requires filing a gift tax return with the IRS, it doesn&#x27;t mean necessarily mean <i>paying</i> any tax. There&#x27;s a lifetime maximum that has to be hit, and it&#x27;s extremely high. (I&#x27;m not a lawyer nor an accountant, and this is not legal or tax advice, yada yada)
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mxtihvb超过 2 年前
From Walter Isaacson&#x27;s biography:<p>Woz and Jobs got their first big break from selling physical copies of the &#x27;Blue Box&#x27;, a device which allowed you to place long-distance phone calls through intelligently breaking AT&amp;T&#x27;s phone routing network. In today&#x27;s &#x27;wire fraud&#x27; day and age, this 100% would have been illegal -- so note that these two people made today&#x27;s most valuable company!<p>Relatively speaking, printing a photo ID or $2 bills is <i>nothing</i>. It is the <i>hacker</i> spirit (notice we are on a site called <i>hacker</i> news!).
gelstudios超过 2 年前
The patron saint of hackers is making the rounds again. Whether you are a fan or not, his book &quot;iWoz&quot; is full of these stories like trolling casino pit bosses with the pad of bills.<p>A few years ago I had the privilege of meeting the woz after an event at which he was a speaker.<p>I was surprised at how humble and patient he was with people vying for his attention, many asking for him to autograph laptops and whatever else they had at hand.<p>I got his attention when I asked him about tetris and we geeked out a bit over it. Thats a story for another day but I did walk away from that conversation with a prized souvenir -- an autographed $2 bill: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;gallery&#x2F;TQo0KOi" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;gallery&#x2F;TQo0KOi</a><p>... and a laser cut steel business card :)
chrismarlow9超过 2 年前
Wow there are some angry people in these comments.
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jesprenj超过 2 年前
Can one buy uncut sheets of euro banknotes?
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rvieira超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s funny and a bit sad that society is so complex we (I) don&#x27;t even know something as &quot;simple&quot; as what the forms of acceptable currency are.
spiritplumber超过 2 年前
Due to this story, if I am teaching basic electronics or how to use a 3d printer to kids, I &quot;pay them for the day&#x27;s work&quot; with a new $2 bill (which you can get at any bank if you ask and wait a few days). I like them because instead of having some guy on the back they have a pretty painting of the Constitution. I sometimes to have to explain to the parents that yes it&#x27;s real money.
bluenomatterwho超过 2 年前
Sheesh the comments on the ID! All morality and legality aside, we have to take a little bit of context into account. The Great Woz is behaving in the much heralded spirit of the age, encapsulated in things like Make. He may as well actually be the Lazer and Chief (retired) of the Defiance Department. A sense of humor might help with the nuance. Imagine the back-office or radio chatter tho. &quot;Casino security says the bills are real. They have better machines than we do. Right. Some technician at Apple. Makes sense. Alright Tom I&#x27;ll call you back.&quot;
markus_zhang超过 2 年前
This guy is a legend. A living example my engineer self can look up to.
mv4超过 2 年前
Re: &quot;I had one favorite fake ID that I&#x27;d used for almost every airplane flight, domestic and international, that I&#x27;d taken for many years.&quot;<p>How times have changed.
dianfishekqi超过 2 年前
[Woz&#x27;s $2 bill sheets] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=LJ1TIYxm1vM">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=LJ1TIYxm1vM</a>
l0b0超过 2 年前
The original title[1] is &#x27;Woz and the Secret Service: &quot;The infamous $2 bill incident&quot;&#x27;<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20120127020131&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.woz.org&#x2F;letters&#x2F;general&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20120127020131&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.wo...</a>
x-complexity超过 2 年前
Some of the comments in here scare me to bits: If HN&#x27;s userbase is that scared of poking at the edges&#x2F;inconsistencies of authority, even in jest, then how would anyone gain the expertise of challenging said authority when top-down control is pushed too far?
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madmax108超过 2 年前
Incase anyone wanted to see what the sheet of $2 bills looks like: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;mrexits&#x2F;status&#x2F;1619179141533954050" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;mrexits&#x2F;status&#x2F;1619179141533954050</a>
kwikiel超过 2 年前
Seems like you can still buy sheets like that: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;catalog.usmint.gov&#x2F;2-four-note-sheet-B9491.html?cgid=uncut-currency#start=1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;catalog.usmint.gov&#x2F;2-four-note-sheet-B9491.html?cgid...</a>
Animats超过 2 年前
Oh, the notebook full of tear-off dollar bills. That used to be a thing. I once read that it was originated by the publicity director of Palisades Amusement Park in New Jersey. Although setting them up for 4-up and perforated is over complicating things.
risfriend超过 2 年前
This seems like a plausible thing to do if you run out of change to tip, banks may not easily give out bundles of $2 in cash simply because of shortage and found this another way to grab lot of $2 notes.
papito超过 2 年前
I asked at a bank recently for 100 $2 bills (I needed it for tipping on a cruise ship). The tellers were extremely curious about what it was for. I got 100 still-bundled bills, like in crime movies!
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kidme5超过 2 年前
The end of this story (paying taxes on $7500 winnings) seems to be hinting at something. Is the message that of course nobody follows all the rules? (Pays those gift taxes)
indigodaddy超过 2 年前
For anyone having trouble with the archive.org link as I was..:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;n8vwp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;n8vwp</a>
kristianp超过 2 年前
So he bought sheets of uncut bills from the mint and got them perforated? Are they legal tender when bought in sheets?
Invictus0超过 2 年前
This comment section is really disappointing. Should change the name of the site to Anal-Retentive Snobs News.
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astrostl超过 2 年前
I &#x27;bought&#x27; a bunch of (cut) $2 bills from a bank ages ago to use for tips, and people do love it.
dorfsmay超过 2 年前
I can&#x27;t help but wonder if the lack of https on woz.org is intentional or simply overlooked.
thrdbndndn超过 2 年前
..and web.archive.org is down.<p>Probably not hugged to death, since their server is unstable for quite awhile.
brailsafe超过 2 年前
As a Canadian, somehow I didn&#x27;t know the U.S still used $2 bills
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decker超过 2 年前
This would have been perfect if it ended a paragraph earlier.
atorodius超过 2 年前
What a trip of a story.
erikerikson超过 2 年前
[2011]
curiousgal超过 2 年前
&gt; <i>But I had got a big point on him and I was quite satisfied in that.</i><p>I hate this attitude so much.
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cardanome超过 2 年前
I don&#x27;t get the humor.<p>Oh, look, that was so funny putting myself into a situation that most people would be scared shitless to be in and might not have ended well for them! Let&#x27;s just waste everyone&#x27;s time so they can humor me on a joke! I am such an edgy rich white guy! A real hacker!<p>What an absolute tool.
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