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Why are online recipes so long-winded?

163 点作者 4monthsaway超过 2 年前

87 条评论

yamtaddle超过 2 年前
Google wills it so. Why? IDK, ask them. Probably yet another case of something net-harmful making them more money.<p>Luckily it&#x27;s also one of the only cases where a microformat is actually nigh-universally used. Outside a few sites where the &quot;fluff&quot; isn&#x27;t fluff and is actually good content itself (e.g. Serious Eats) I just throw the URL into Paprika 3 (no affiliation, and there are tons of other programs and probably some browser plugins to do the same thing) and let it strip it down to the ingredients and instructions by reading the microformat markup. Works flawlessly nearly every time.<p>[EDIT] Credit where it&#x27;s due, I&#x27;m also pretty sure the microformat is only popular because of Google. I think they downrank sites in recipe searches if Google can&#x27;t &quot;see&quot; the recipe, using the microformat. They may be both the cause of, and solution to, the problem.
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graeme超过 2 年前
I am amazed the article and the comments do not mention copyright.<p>1. You can’t copyright a recipe<p>2. You can copyright the text of a long winded story which contains a recipe<p>Any recipe site which did not contains stories would have no defendable intellectual property<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;copyrightalliance.org&#x2F;are-recipes-cookbooks-protected-by-copyright&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;copyrightalliance.org&#x2F;are-recipes-cookbooks-protecte...</a>
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zxcvbn4038超过 2 年前
Recipes on the internet are the worst mess, thousands of recipes for yellow cake that differ in ingredients and quantities for no discernable reason, someone&#x27;s recipe for spanish rice made with taco bell sauce packets, macaroni and cheese with more mayonnaise then macaroni and cheese combined, and now the bloggers where you have to read through six pages of how the author used to make the recipe with their departed grandmother before getting to anything of substance.<p>Instead I bought a used 1950&#x27;s Betty Crocker cookbook from a used book store, beats Google every time.
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readingnews超过 2 年前
I think you mean &quot;why is everything online so long-winded&quot;. Geez, look up any video on nearly anything simple, they all follow the same format:<p><pre><code> * 10 mins of nonsense and irrelevant background into how great you are * 10 mins of setup * 10 mins of drama build-up * 1 min of the actual event * 10 mins of closing comments </code></pre> Oh, wait, I forgot, it is not about the content, it is all about how long I can get you to watch so I get more nickels. Dang, now I made myself sad...
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ravenstine超过 2 年前
Nearly everything online today is long-winded. Hell, most media is long-winded. You can&#x27;t just know what happened, where, and why; you&#x27;ve got to read a creative-writing thesis to &quot;put you in the shoes&quot; of the subject du jour. You can&#x27;t simply watch a lecture; you need fancy graphics and fast cuts with memes woven in. Want a compelling story? You better watch all 6 seasons, including the remaining 4 without the original writers, and be prepared to be disappointed. How about learning to fix your car? In that case, be prepared for 3 minutes worth of info in 20 minutes of some schmo complaining about why Hyundais suck while he constantly jiggles the camera and gloats about much more clever he is than other mechanics.<p>News, blogs, recipes, shows, instructional videos... all pretty much blow chunks. Any time I simply want straight forward information it becomes a matter of frequent fast-forwarding and combining of info from disparate sources when it shouldn&#x27;t be necessary. Get. To. The. Point.
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kspacewalk2超过 2 年前
You can try plainoldrecipe.com[0] for de-cluttering recipes. It doesn&#x27;t work for a lot of the bloggy recipe sites, but when it does[1], it&#x27;s great. And it works for all the popular sites like AllRecipes.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plainoldrecipe.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plainoldrecipe.com&#x2F;</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plainoldrecipe.com&#x2F;recipe?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spendwithpennies.com%2Feasy-quiche-recipe%2F" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plainoldrecipe.com&#x2F;recipe?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spen...</a>
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kraussvonespy超过 2 年前
Opposite opinion here: Internet recipes are generally terrible. It&#x27;s almost impossible to make any determination as to whether recipes have ever been tested or optimized or anything, and I just don&#x27;t trust them. But if I go to seriouseats.com (for example) and they show me all of the work they went through to get to the recipe, I trust them.<p>I&#x27;d say that well over half of the random Internet recipes I try aren&#x27;t very good, have been developed with bad techniques, use the wrong flavors, try to fix flavor issues by adding more flavors and so on. Using a vetted site (the America&#x27;s Test Kitchen recipes are also quite good) gets me ~98% success.<p>I&#x27;d rather take the extra 5 minutes of time to look through how the recipe was created and tested to make sure it&#x27;s a good recipe than spend a couple of hours making an unknown recipe with a 50&#x2F;50 shot to not be terrible. YMMV.
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bmelton超过 2 年前
The conventional wisdom for SEO is that &quot;good content&quot; ranges between 2,000-4,000 words. Most recipes are but a fraction of that, so the rest is filler to meet the aforementioned SEO wisdom. I&#x27;m not sure whether Google actually does or doesn&#x27;t reward content fitting with that arbitrary range, or why it might, but all the SEO Youtubers are saying it does, so all the people cargo culting SEO wisdom are doing it, so it doesn&#x27;t really matter.<p>More practically, the longer a piece of content appears to be, the more opportunities to stuff ads into it without appearing like a cash grab.<p>Google does definitely reward users for including micro-slash-schema based content though, so the recipes themselves are likely included on the page in a parsable json+ld format, which is great for ingestion by apps like Paprika (which many others have mentioned.)<p>The good news is that there are rumors that Google is moving away from whatever content-based system they may or may not have been using before, and towards a &quot;helpfulness&quot; system for ranking pages -- basically, how directly did this article address the search question that took you to it as the answer.<p>This should prefer direct, concise answers (e.g., &quot;2+2 = 4&quot; vs &quot;2+2 starts with the history of numbers, which are of course ciphered numeral systems originating with the Egyptians&quot;)<p>Time will tell how accurately that can be measured, or what wild gamesmanship will occur as the result of it.
dinkleberg超过 2 年前
SEO may be the reason for many of the bigger blogs, but I think we shouldn&#x27;t default to cynicism here. People who are passionate about a given topic often love to ramble on about it. And if you aren&#x27;t very passionate about food, you aren&#x27;t likely to start a food blog.<p>And most people don&#x27;t start blogging as a purely educational activity, but rather as a way of expressing themselves. As a result, they aren&#x27;t necessarily thinking about optimal user experience like a software business would.<p>I had a coworker who had a food blog and she would fill each post with ramblings like all the rest do, but it is because she wanted to tell her story of why that particular meal was important to her. And if you were to ask her in person about a meal or what she likes to cook, she would talk in as much detail since that was her passion.<p>The default of assuming everyone is a bad actor is growing rather tiresome. Not to mention, these people didn&#x27;t need to share their recipes at all. And we aren&#x27;t compensating them for their work. We just complain.
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rogerbinns超过 2 年前
Plain recipes have no copyright protection[1]. The other surrounding text does have copyright protection, so any recipe publisher needs to have additional text and to be able to detect if someone else has copied it.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.copyrightlaws.com&#x2F;copyright-protection-recipes&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.copyrightlaws.com&#x2F;copyright-protection-recipes&#x2F;</a>
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WorldMaker超过 2 年前
Bullet point #1 here doesn&#x27;t get enough credit either in this article or generally here on HN comments, but is a major factor.<p>A lot of the recipe blogs that originated this form of long-winded stories leading into the eventual recipe <i>have</i> regular readers. Many of those readers aren&#x27;t looking for specific recipes at any given time they are looking for the stories <i>first</i>. Those stories are the real content to those regular readers. (And regular readers with their recurring ad revenue&#x2F;demographics are the ones that pay the bills, ultimately, not &quot;went searching for a specific recipe&quot; utilitarian users.)<p>This isn&#x27;t even a new phenomenon in recipes pop culture, because food TV shows learned this decades ago. Most cooking shows break down into two categories: competitions (which mostly never even give recipes) and &quot;lifestyle&quot; shows that may include recipes but just as much include the &quot;celebrity chefs&quot; chatting as much about who they are and what is going on in their lives and storytelling why the recipes in question were of interest in that moment as much as the details of the recipes themselves.<p>This isn&#x27;t even an isolated phenomenon to recipes. It is common, modern parasocial behavior. You <i>could</i> look at something like Twitch as a utilitarian resource to see gameplay or learn tips&#x2F;tricks, but obviously nearly every stream is full of streamers chatting about their day while they wait for game lobbies or in between other parts of gameplay and whatever tips&#x2F;tricks they may have to impart. It&#x27;s the parasocial &quot;human interest&quot; that builds the biggest and most reliable parts of their audiences (and in turn most of their revenue).<p>There are a lot of reasons people complain about it a lot more with recipe bloggers than Twitch streamers.
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akiselev超过 2 年前
Google measures the amount of time you spend on a webpage before you go back to the search page (if you dont open in a new tab) and it’s used as an important ranking signal. That’s pretty much it.<p>All the long winded recipe bullshit just keeps you on the page longer before you realize the recipe is crap.
dawnerd超过 2 年前
Oh hey, something I have first hand experience with working with fairly large food &#x2F; recipe focused sites.<p>It&#x27;s primarily driven by ads. I know, huge shock there. A lot of people might assume it&#x27;s purely an SEO play and while that&#x27;s true to an extent, it&#x27;s mostly for the ads.
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daniel-s超过 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;based.cooking&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;based.cooking&#x2F;</a><p>The best recipe website on the internet.<p>Is the best and doesn&#x27;t rank on Google specifically because it doesn&#x27;t do what this article talks about.
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strig超过 2 年前
This chrome extension is helpful, shows the recipe automatically in a modal:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;recipe-filter&#x2F;ahlcdjbkdaegmljnnncfnhiioiadakae?hl=en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;recipe-filter&#x2F;ahlc...</a>
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fleddr超过 2 年前
So let us imagine an ideal situation from a recipe consumer point of view. You go to Google, type &quot;best chili recipe&quot;, and Google would immediately show the best recipe directly into its UI, based on all the data is has on you and some sophisticated recommendation algorithm. Further, you have a set of standardized actions like &quot;print&quot;, &quot;send to iPad&quot;, &quot;favorite&quot;, etc.<p>You no longer have to read the author&#x27;s diary entry and this entire hyper-optimized workflow doesn&#x27;t cost you a cent. Perfect, right?<p>Well, I suppose that in these AI times ultimately the effort of even asking the question would be redundant, obviously Google knows Wednesday is your chili day, and your fridge had already ordered the ingredient.<p>There&#x27;s just one problem: what about the recipe writers? What about artists? What about anybody ever producing any content of monetizable value?<p>What incentive is there to produce content when users never pay directly and middlemen aggregate it, removing you from the equation? You, the person that created the bloody thing. It&#x27;s like you don&#x27;t even exist.<p>This isn&#x27;t just big tech, we have an active role in this. When users do not have to pay, they generally won&#x27;t. Digital content has no value yet we obviously have the natural born right to consume it anyway.
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ElfinTrousers超过 2 年前
Speaking as someone who likes to cook, and hates wading through pages of SEO bait to find the actual recipe, it seems like in principle it wouldn&#x27;t be too hard to write a search engine specialized for recipes that heavily penalizes longwindedness.
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kemiller2002超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s because recipes aren&#x27;t copy writable. Stories are. If you include the story then it&#x27;s much harder to scrape the recipe.
bottlepalm超过 2 年前
Long form content’s days are numbered with AI on the horizon.<p>Th primary reason being generating long form has become so cheap with AI that it has essentially rendered it worthless.
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tuckerpo超过 2 年前
Luke Smith, the FOSS + minimalism evangelist has a platform to solve this:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;based.cooking&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;based.cooking&#x2F;</a><p>Shortform, straight to the point recipes. Just ingredients and steps. No ads. No life stories.
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destroy-2A超过 2 年前
Chat gpt is perfect for this you can add any variation you want no fluff or faff.<p>Also I have to mention this <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cookingforengineers.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cookingforengineers.com&#x2F;</a>
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H1Supreme超过 2 年前
For folks who often find themselves searching the web for recipes, I&#x27;d recommend picking up a cookbook or two. My girlfriend has a stack of them she&#x27;s inherited from family members over the years. We like to casually leaf through them to look for ideas.<p>I&#x27;ve come to prefer this method because it&#x27;s effectively the opposite of searching for recipes. Here&#x27;s a curated list of meals you can make, pick one. I&#x27;d recommend a used book store, if possible. You&#x27;ll probably get some random Grandma notes in the margins for substitutions &#x2F; modifications.
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878654Tom超过 2 年前
Wouldn&#x27;t this be the case of clean recipe websites just being rated lower as their content seeks like duplication while these long-winded websites have a lot of original content even though that original content is not what you are searching for.<p>Like, a clean website about how to reverse sear a steak has maybe like 5 sentences and other clean websites write it the same for 90% (how many ways can you explain it?) but a website full of fluff has 200 sentences that are more original making the content look unique while they still describe how to reverse sear a steak.
epr超过 2 年前
4. Copyright protection does not apply to recipes themselves, but does apply to the fluff.<p>IANAL
rreichel03超过 2 年前
I found that this was particularly notable while browsing on my phone so I built an iOS app extension [1] a year ago that attempts to fix this! Its not perfect and always a WIP, but its made my friends and family&#x27;s lives a lot easier.<p>[1]. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;recipereader.reichel.dev" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;recipereader.reichel.dev</a>
jihadjihad超过 2 年前
I saw it mentioned here on HN by the author themselves, and after using it for a few weeks it&#x27;s been a game changer. If you&#x27;re tired of reading a person&#x27;s life story in a recipe, give Umami a shot. It&#x27;s free, too.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.umami.recipes&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.umami.recipes&#x2F;</a>
OscarTheGrinch超过 2 年前
My longwinded crap filteiring heuristic: If an article hasn&#x27;t gotten to the point by paragraph 3, I&#x27;m out.
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baud147258超过 2 年前
I&#x27;m finding weird that it&#x27;s not the case for recipes in French... Like the first result for &#x27;soupe à l&#x27;oignon&#x27; on google is this one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.marmiton.org&#x2F;recettes&#x2F;recette_soupe-a-l-oignon_10891.aspx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.marmiton.org&#x2F;recettes&#x2F;recette_soupe-a-l-oignon_1...</a> and it&#x27;s similar for all the recipes I search for online (in French). It&#x27;s full of ads and sponsored content, but the recipe is ingredient list and instructions.<p>Maybe it&#x27;s because all the recipes seem to be concentrated on a handful of big websites with thousands of recipes, which fits with part &#x27;#3. It’s a business&#x27; of the article.
srcreigh超过 2 年前
Even the worst recipe sites often have a &quot;Jump to recipe&quot; button to skip past the story and ads.<p>pihole works decently well to stop ads from loading on mobile, speeding up the site and avoiding janky movement of the copy as ads load in.
jedberg超过 2 年前
The irony of a long blog post about this is not lost on me. The answer is simple:<p>&quot;SEO. Google favors longer pages with unique content. If you just put the recipe it would look just like every other recipe on every other page&quot;.
Peritract超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s been a very long time since I&#x27;ve visited a recipe site that didn&#x27;t have a prominent &#x27;jump to recipe&#x27; button. Recipes have stories because some people value them, and they have a button for those who don&#x27;t.<p>This is a tired, old complaint made by people who don&#x27;t actually ever cook or read recipes, they just want to shop AI solutions &#x2F; flog their &#x27;innovative&#x27; start-up &#x2F; write about a different topic entirely but draw readers in initially with a &#x27;kids these days&#x27; tone.
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photochemsyn超过 2 年前
There should be a standardized json format for recipies. Main keys for individual dishes could be &#x27;ingredients&#x27;, &#x27;preparation&#x27;, &#x27;cooking&#x27;, &#x27;serving&#x27;.
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withinrafael超过 2 年前
A simple set of directions is uncopyrightable. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.copyright.gov&#x2F;circs&#x2F;circ33.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.copyright.gov&#x2F;circs&#x2F;circ33.pdf</a>)<p>Recipes can be protected under copyright law if they are accompanied by &quot;substantial literary expression.&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.copyright.gov&#x2F;help&#x2F;faq&#x2F;faq-protect.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.copyright.gov&#x2F;help&#x2F;faq&#x2F;faq-protect.html</a>)
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de_nied超过 2 年前
&gt; I think the only potential fix to something like this is one of the hardest to overcome—brand name. If you’re searching for Gordan Ramsay’s Jammed Turkey or Rachael Ray’s Glimmering Sunflower Seeds, they can probably get away with 0% fluff content. The rest of us humble content creators probably cannot (until we’re dining with the stars, that is.)<p>[query site:.edu] gives me the base of any recipe I need, mostly without the fluff.
cratermoon超过 2 年前
The real reason is because recipes consisting of just the list of ingredients can&#x27;t be copyrighted, but the articles and all the other stuff are copyrightable.
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gnarbarian超过 2 年前
I would love to see a crowdsourced cookbook with user submitted variations on recipes and vote ranking and comments. search by ingredients, dish, macros, calories. create meal plans, meal prep, shopping lists. then you can integrate with grocery store apis to pick up your shopping list or have it delivered with Instacart.<p>there are lots of avenues for monetization but it&#x27;s a crowded space and hard to build all these features in and gain momentum.
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Trowter超过 2 年前
People on this forum will not like this opinion but I think TikTok is the superior recipe platform.<p>If you already know the basics on how to cook it&#x27;s great. Quick fire ingredients and methods with visuals to back it up, I can absorb an entire recipe in less than 30 seconds.<p>I have an account dedicated to recipes and they algorithm is pretty good and will pretty much only ever show me recipes or similar nutrition based stuff.
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somecompanyguy超过 2 年前
the lore that know-nothings told themselves about seo. the think seo is about content, its about users. they screwed this pooch up over a decade ago and it noticeably changed the content of the internet for the worse, much like what people are now consciously thinking about chatgpt. its shocking that we finally have enough people to notice this but it wont be enough.
christopherslee超过 2 年前
I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s some SEO component, but I&#x27;m surprised no one mentioned ads.<p>More real estate for you to scroll through for display ads?
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newobj超过 2 年前
Get the Paprika 3 app, it’s amazing. You can put in a irl and it scrapes the ingredients and directions and stores them locally.
yibg超过 2 年前
Interestingly I noticed this a while ago and in talking to some friends it seems this is less of a problem in some other languages. For example Chinese recipes and Thai receipes (in Chinese and Thai) seem to get straight to the point. Where as most English recipes I find on google takes page 3 to get to the meat of it.
dfxm12超过 2 年前
FWIW, a lot of top selling cookbooks are like this as well. Maybe there&#x27;s not a blurb like this before <i>every</i> recipe, but I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve got a cookbook that doesn&#x27;t have at least some memoir or essay between sections and&#x2F;or a few personal stories attached to recipes throughout.
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extr0pian超过 2 年前
Personally, I find the vast majority of recipe websites absolutely terrible. It seems others have shared small and minimalist recipe websites, but the one that I use and haven&#x27;t seen shared yet is <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plain.recipes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plain.recipes</a>.
AlbertCory超过 2 年前
My new go-to is not to search DDG or Google at all. Just go to seriouseats.com and search there. America&#x27;s Test Kitchen is a good second choice.<p>There IS a lot of text, but it&#x27;s mostly explaining how they tested and derived this recipe, and what the alternatives are. You can always skip to the end.
mkl95超过 2 年前
Some guy at Google decided it was the way to go almost 20 years ago, and it was cargoculted into oblivion
Tams80超过 2 年前
Eh? I just stick to a few sites that have more recipes than I could likely ever cook, and despite being adventurous, I won&#x27;t ever cook all of them.<p>BBC Food BBC Good Food Cookpad The odd The Guardian recipe (which are full of fluff)<p>I&#x27;m sure others can point you to other sites that just have recipes.
macinjosh超过 2 年前
1. People like to talk&#x2F;write&#x2F;blab<p>2. Keywords and content for SEO<p>3. Some bloggers plan on compiling their posts into a cookbook
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hn_throwaway_99超过 2 年前
Saw a tweet recently where someone took a long-winded recipe from a website, posted it to ChatGPT and asked ChatGPT to play it back, taking out all the fluff and making it succinct. Result was perfect, just an ingredients list and simple instructions, no mistakes.
iambateman超过 2 年前
I had the same question, so I made <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;SimplifyRecipe.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;SimplifyRecipe.com</a> a few weeks ago!<p>There’s an iOS shortcut and chrome extension to reliably get rid of the life story. Hope it’s useful. :)
byronic超过 2 年前
I got so mad about this exact behavior that I started an (occasionally-updated) git repository with no-cruft recipes. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;byronic&#x2F;recipes">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;byronic&#x2F;recipes</a>
jefftk超过 2 年前
Very impressive that this post itself is a 1000-word introduction to a chili recipe.
erybodyknows超过 2 年前
A misalignment of incentives. Recipe sites want you to stay on the site for as long as possible, to serve you as many ads as possible, as this increases their income. Providing you with a clear recipe is not their primary goal.
pjkundert超过 2 年前
We will soon have LLMs that:<p>- aren’t infected by “Woke” theology (ie. accurately reflects the source material, not someone’s belief-based constraints)<p>- prioritizes the sources that most succinctly explain the desired topic<p>- And, sounds least like something generated by an LLM!
zerocrates超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve never quite understood why people hate this trend so much. The fluff is often overdone, agreed, but when you don&#x27;t want that stuff, just scroll down until you hit ingredients and you&#x27;re good to go.
indymike超过 2 年前
SEO. Recipes are a great place to learn how bad SEO makes content for people.
harrywynn超过 2 年前
I spent a few hours this past weekend putting my own recipes up for exactly this reason. Just give me the info.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gluten-free.recipes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gluten-free.recipes</a>
mattpallissard超过 2 年前
Scrapes the site for just the steps. Works pretty well too.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.justtherecipe.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.justtherecipe.com&#x2F;</a>
delecti超过 2 年前
Most recipe pages also include links directly to the recipe right at the top. The blog portion is annoying, and also leads to some funny memes, but it&#x27;s easy to bypass.
danielvaughn超过 2 年前
Online recipes were the catalyst for me switching from Chrome to Brave. It doesn&#x27;t remove the filler copy, but at least there&#x27;s not an ad every 2 sentences.
meowzero超过 2 年前
Everything is long winded these days: books, recipes, podcasts, videos, blogs, etc. Even with tiktoks, they try to use the maximum amount of time for their content.
CoastalCoder超过 2 年前
I&#x27;ve noticed a similar pattern in search results regarding anime series release dates.<p>The main difference being that those anime articles seem entirely generated from templates.
sshadow超过 2 年前
This reads like the pages they&#x27;re talking about.
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martin_a超过 2 年前
SEO.<p>That&#x27;s it. Done. No need to read another article about it.
bojangleslover超过 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;recipe-search.typesense.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;recipe-search.typesense.org&#x2F;</a>
chiffre01超过 2 年前
The Internet Archive has hundreds of free to read cookbooks full of recipes with minimal or no additional story.
yafbum超过 2 年前
Because the people publishing them love to pack them with ads, and long-windedness causes more ad impressions.
nottorp超过 2 年前
Without reading the article, it&#x27;s because I have yet to see a recipe that&#x27;s not on a blogspam site.
numeromancer超过 2 年前
You might like this:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;based.cooking&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;based.cooking&#x2F;</a>
rapsacnz超过 2 年前
I generally try to find Jamie Oliver versions of recipes - they are short, tested and they taste good.
Aaronstotle超过 2 年前
One of my favorite uses of Chat GPT is asking it for recipes because it doesn&#x27;t add a narrative
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sharx超过 2 年前
these days there is almost always a &quot;jump to recipe&quot; button at the top in my experience
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jollyllama超过 2 年前
I figured it was to incentivize you to buy a cookbook or recipe catalogue without the ranting.
barrkel超过 2 年前
Sometimes they could still do with more detail, especially when using imprecise imperial measurements. The one that I find most irritating is using volume measurements for non-liquids, e.g. cup of flour (sifted or not?), or ratios, where it&#x27;s not specified if it&#x27;s a weight:weight or volume:volume ratio.
Ekaros超过 2 年前
I would honestly guess that the blog text is point of the process and not the recipe for many of the writers. Maybe the recipe is just there to justify the process of writing the blog post. Or they would eventually be asked for the recipe, so get away having to repeatedly answer to same question.
kazinator超过 2 年前
To keep your eyes on the page longer so you are exposed to ads more.
gr4yb34rd超过 2 年前
i really do not like being the guy that goes &quot;but chatgpt&quot; in threads about other topics, but i have found it to be pretty good at generating simplified recipes.
RedditKon超过 2 年前
SEO - Google ranks those pages higher.
Reason077超过 2 年前
This is why I love www.bbcgoodfood.com. Good quality recipes. Short and too the point, usually just 1-2 pages. No ads or silly long winded stories.<p>Long live public service media!
kgc超过 2 年前
More ad targeting possibilities.
MisterBastahrd超过 2 年前
SEO.
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weedking超过 2 年前
NYT recipes are a nice refuge from this sort of thing. Easy to get around the paywall with browser add-ons as well.
gaberunsalot超过 2 年前
Try the Fresco app.
ano-ther超过 2 年前
If Google rewards the fluff, couldn’t the authors put it after the actual recipe? I.e., tldr; first and then the backstory?
resuresu超过 2 年前
based.cooking
jobs_throwaway超过 2 年前
ad placement<p>&#x2F;thread
cosinetau超过 2 年前
Beans do not belong in chili. They are probably writing so much in hopes you do not notice.
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s1mon超过 2 年前
Searching for recipes turns out to be a great use for ChatGPT. You can give it pretty fuzzy search parameters and have conversations about adjusting the recipes and it will just give you a simple list of ingredients and instructions - no BS.<p>Conversely, if you do want to use regular searches and recipes from internet sites, the Paprika app [0] is amazing. It will download and parse the recipes and get rid of all the BS. You can then sync recipes between devices and people as well as manage grocery lists and meal plans based on the recipes.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paprikaapp.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paprikaapp.com&#x2F;</a>
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