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Ask HN: Is it unwise to post conservative opinions as a tech worker?

29 点作者 filecounter超过 2 年前
I've been in tech for over 15 years and have never posted publicly under my own name any political opinion. I'm not sure if I'm being a coward or prudent. I used to identify with the left but now I lean conservative, and I feel like there is a huge bias towards that in tech. And any opinion can only hurt me if they look me up. Please let me know what you think on this matter.

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clintonbush超过 2 年前
I agree with most of the other comments. As a staunch conservative, I have found it better to just keep my thoughts to myself. Additionally, there is usually little to be gained from sharing your opinions. Past a certain age, most be are so set in their opinions that arguing with them achieves nothing. Personally, I enjoy a thoughtful, respectful, and in-depth discussion (maybe even debate), but most people would rather just regurgitate the media talking points or, worse, jump straight to calling you racist, homophobic, a bigot, a religious zealot, or whatever else they think will quickly shut you up. In short, it's better to just keep your thoughts to yourself.
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twoquestions超过 2 年前
Depending on where you are, the opposite is true. I worked for a while in a hard-right state for an oil company, and failing to proclaim current conservative values with sufficient enthusiasm was a serious career limiting move. Luckily I&#x27;ve since moved on.<p>Engaging with political debate on Twitter is a terrible idea no matter what your ideology, no matter how mainstream your opinions.
muzani超过 2 年前
It is unwise. There is a bias. Not just against conservative opinion, but all political opinion. People are unwilling to change their own opinion, so debates are nonsensical, with people finding evidence to support a false belief rather than acknowledge that their belief could be wrong. Everyone gets further grounded in their opinion and more polarized.
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logicalmonster超过 2 年前
If being inundated with certain politics at work bothers you to the point that you&#x27;re thinking of engaging with them, one option might be to look for a smaller, non-tech industry company that operates in the real world. Some small regional company that (for example) repairs and installs AC units doesn&#x27;t have the staff sitting around constantly sending emails about politics or attending various training sessions. In a normal environment outside of the Silicon Valley bubble, it&#x27;s a lot easier to ignore politics or even politely engage with people if that&#x27;s what you want.
BMc2020超过 2 年前
Frankly I can&#x27;t tell what&#x27;s real or not any more. Filecounter, if that&#x27;s your real name, you could be just concern trolling. You might be sincere. You might be a bot. You might be in the 50 ruble army spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt. Maybe you&#x27;re just lonely and just want someone to talk to.<p>I would lean against posting your political opinions on the internet, and instead step away from the computer and you know, spend time with friends. Get some fresh air and exercise. If you want to have some political influence showing up in person is, I don&#x27;t know, at least a million times more effective than posting internet opinions.
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altdataseller超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s unwise to post political opinions, period, as any type of worker. I feel most people who do so are virtue signaling anyway
simple-thoughts超过 2 年前
If you feel that your political opinions should be communicated, then do so but not under your own name unless you plan to use your workplace to build an audience. Depending on the workplace, this may damage your career, but sharing your opinions is the first step to building an audience and and switching careers.
mattpallissard超过 2 年前
You&#x27;re being prudent. I keep all my political, spiritual, and philosophical opinions to myself, only sharing with my inner circle.<p>It seems to work well, I get along with all sorts of people with wildly different, often cooky, views. In my opinion that&#x27;s more important than signaling my political leanings.
rbanffy超过 2 年前
I think we should. Politics is everywhere - it is how we organize our command chains and direct our collective action towards a set of goals. While corporations are rarely democracies, there is still politics in the sense that all the commands are the result of negotiations between the parts, in which each one informs the other about what&#x27;s required and what are the possible outcomes.<p>There is, however, a tendency to take extreme positions and that needs to be fought. We must always debate in good faith - and ensure ourselves that we are doing so in good faith - that we listened, that our opinions are based on objective truths, and that we are willing to change our opinions when confronted by evidence against them.
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jdmtheNth超过 2 年前
Conservative opinions are unwelcome in most places now. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;ideas&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2020&#x2F;02&#x2F;evidence-conservative-students-really-do-self-censor&#x2F;606559&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;ideas&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2020&#x2F;02&#x2F;evidence-c...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;I7xFz" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;I7xFz</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.realcleareducation.com&#x2F;speech&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.realcleareducation.com&#x2F;speech&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;b5UII" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;b5UII</a>
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giantg2超过 2 年前
&quot;And any opinion can only hurt me if they look me up.&quot;<p>You answered your own question.
wsgeorge超过 2 年前
Depends on who you (want to) work with.<p>I think about it this way: co-operation depends on trust and shared values, the lack of which hinders or prevents this.<p>Every one of us is a bag of values, and some of these will often intersect with some of those we work with. Since team work is an active act of co-operation, it makes more sense for me to actively share those values that are broadly in agreement with those that will improve the work relationship.
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tomcam超过 2 年前
I’d avoid it. I’ve lost good friends that way, and I try to argue in good faith. Very often even simple questions get reframed as attacks.
moomoo11超过 2 年前
Personally I’m not a fan of discussing these things at work regardless of what pov.<p>Work is something that should in theory unite us as we work on a mission together in exchange for compensation.<p>I get that external factors affect people different (I know I deal with my own shit), but I wish work would be an outlet away from those things to focus on something all together.
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okaleniuk超过 2 年前
I just read Noise by Kahneman, Sibony, Sunstein, and I&#x27;m not sure that we should talk about politics at all anymore. We should think about politics, yes! Read about politics, listen about politics, and experience politics ourselves. But probably not talk too much.<p>Sharing opinions does reduce cognitive noise, but it also promotes and enforces cognitive bias. Which is a fair trade you might think, and in many practical domains it is. But under democratic system, we already have instruments to reduce noise. We have polls and elections. Democracy is well suited to mitigate cognitive noise.<p>But not bias. Imagine 100 people. 10 of them are experts in some particular field. The rest is completely clueless. Now let&#x27;s hold a poll on some binary question from that field. Of 10 experts, let&#x27;s say only 8 get the answer right because of the noise, let&#x27;s call it a 20% noise. Of 90 non-experts, however since they all answer fully noisy anyway, roughly 45 will vote right statistically. The vote is the 53 vs 47 in favor of the right answer.<p>Now let&#x27;s say, there is a bias that skews the result 10% towards the wrong call. In an expert community, this is not a big deal. 9 out of 10 experts will get the answer right. But among the general population, this would account for 9 votes in the wrong direction. The votes are now 45 vs 55, and the wrong decision is taken.<p>TL&amp;DR Democracy is statistically more vulnerable to cognitive bias than to cognitive noise. And sharing opinions reduces noise but promotes bias.
qualudeheart超过 2 年前
As someone with off the wall opinions— liberal opinions- it usually isn’t worth talking politics. Most laypeople also don’t understand politics well enough for discourse to be positive sum.
mejutoco超过 2 年前
I would recommend posting opinions that follow a sound logical argument, instead of obsessing over identity.
anonreeeeplor超过 2 年前
I honestly feel the culture has gotten far better. Five years ago, the culture in software was unbelievably shrill, immature, politically naive, self centered.<p>It was like being immersed in a dunk tank of elementary school children but most of them had college degrees yet no common sense or world wisdom.<p>If you organized an event which was “insufficiently diverse” they would gang up on you on twitter and lynch you publicly.<p>I truly feel the shrillness has eased off. I think as people got older, and the political landscape changed I see a lot less of it.<p>I feel a lot more comfortable having based opinions publicly, the army of children seem to be much quieter now.<p>Before - the fear was palpable. I didn’t feel comfortable following conservatives because morons on twitter would literally comb through your likes and follows and “out you” for not being liberal.<p>It was so unbelievably childish and pervasive that you could literally feel it.<p>I think it’s nowhere near as bad as it used to be. I remember just how bad it was, especially in 2016. I think it became a parody of itself during the trump administration and my hope is a lot of people grew out of it.
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muzz超过 2 年前
Almost the opposite. Tech is mostly conservative in the classic sense-- limited government, personal freedoms, etc.
ManlyBread超过 2 年前
No one on the internet discusses politics in a good faith. Most of the time it&#x27;s not even a discussion, since neither side listens to each other and they just want to regurgitate their talking points, feel good about having the supposedly &quot;correct&quot; take and then belittle the other party for being &quot;wrong&quot;. These people are not going to change their beliefs no matter what you write or how well-researched it will be.<p>Then there are mobs. If you&#x27;ll get even remotely popular there&#x27;s a non-zero chance you&#x27;ll end up getting stalked by some weirdos from twitter&#x2F;4chan. Lots of these people have close to infinite free time, no moral compass whatsoever, nothing better to do and possibly a mental illness that makes them obsess over certain topics. They will spread misinformation about you all over the internet or will try to get you fired from your current job over something you wrote 7 years ago. If you use your real name they&#x27;ll quickly find out whatever they can about you and use that to harass you or your family.<p>Personally, I refrain as much as possible from posting about anything political on the internet, real name or not. It&#x27;s a huge waste of time that adds nothing positive to a daily life.
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rchaud超过 2 年前
What has the higher probability right now, getting laid off due to macro conditions in the tech sector.....or getting laid off due to your political opinions?<p>&gt; I used to identify with the left but now I lean conservative<p>Elon Musk claims this too, but posts all kinds of nonsense. He can get away with it, you can&#x27;t. Assuming that you are a sane user of the internet however, you should be alright.
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sinuhe69超过 2 年前
It’s evidently shown in HN comments
xfitm3超过 2 年前
There is a huge left bias and you will actively be ousted from the FAANGs if you admit any conservative or $non_mainstream opinion. One place I know of – people wanted you dead if you were not vaccinated. It was pure hatred and this was ok with leadership.<p>Another place where we had significant reach to a large audience we actively curated anti-conservative content.
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sasattack超过 2 年前
Conservative: I have been censored for my conservative views<p>Me: Holy shit! You were censored for wanting lower taxes?<p>Con: LOL no...no not those views<p>Me: So....deregulation?<p>Con: Haha no not those views either<p>Me: Which views, exactly?<p>Con: Oh, you know the ones
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