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What Happens Now to All the Laid Off Tech Workers? [audio]

24 点作者 gkanai超过 2 年前

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dgb23超过 2 年前
Something that isn&#x27;t clear to me is what &quot;tech workers&quot; means and what kind of &quot;tech workers&quot; have been laid off.<p>Is it backend engineers, operations, UI designers, marketing&#x2F;HR&#x2F;management working in tech? Is an accountant a tech worker if they use slick, modern software? Does it matter where they work or who they&#x27;re working with? What is a &quot;tech company&quot;?
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Yuioup超过 2 年前
They go out and get jobs at more financially responsible companies, or start their own. There is plenty of work.
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lylejantzi3rd超过 2 年前
Do we have numbers on what percentage of laid off &quot;tech workers&quot; are programmers vs IT, management, hr, product, design, scrum masters, marketing, sales, accounting, philanthropy, etc?
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mkr-hn超过 2 年前
I wonder what the industry attrition rate is. How many move to another tech company, and how many move on to a new career? This boom is old enough that a large portion of people who got in at the start out of college (or by skipping college) should be in or approaching their 30s where people start reevaluating their priorities.
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have_faith超过 2 年前
With employment numbers so high here in the UK and in the US people need to remember that there are massive amounts of &quot;tech&quot; jobs in non-tech companies and they generally haven&#x27;t been doing massive layoffs. The demand is still there if you don&#x27;t mind doing the same job in a less sexy company.
AstixAndBelix超过 2 年前
Hopefully their skills get redistributed to the wider market so more companies can ship decent products and innovate instead of only a few ones holding the brainpower hostage
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DigitalSea超过 2 年前
They go and get jobs at fiscally responsible competitors.
gkanai超过 2 年前
Odd Lots Podcast interviews patio11
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theGnuMe超过 2 年前
They go off and invent the future.
sheepscreek超过 2 年前
TL;DR Sorry for the long comment. This should have been a blog post somewhere (but I don’t have a blog). Companies and people have a mutual agreement that either can walk away from. There may be a slight power disbalance in the company’s favour. How individuals are fired and laid off should be regulated to provide basic decency&#x2F;courtesy (give them basic rights such as being informed by&#x2F;having the chance to talk to their manager 1:1). I don’t know the labor laws, this may already be the case. But not knowing my&#x2F;our rights is also a failing of the system.<p>—————<p>Why do companies exist? What should be the role of a good corporate citizen? These are questions that have puzzled me for the last decade or so.<p>I think, depending on the context - the answer can change. Depending on role of the individual at the company, the answer can change too.<p>From an entrepreneur’s perspective, a company limits their (otherwise unlimited) liability. That’s another way of saying, a company limits the personal liability of its leadership in all matters concerning the company (eg. so they don’t end up losing their homes and bank accounts in the case of a bankruptcy).<p>For those of you well versed in this topic, I am referring to a company being an incorporated entity (an S corporation in the US, or a federal&#x2F;provincial corporation in Canada).<p>From an investors perspective, it’s a way to multiply their large investment while having some say in the company’s running.<p>From a board of directors perspective, it’s a way to share your learned experience of running a company with other executives without being directly involved in operations. And acting as the first line of representatives (of the shareholders) to hold the company leadership accountable. They get modestly compensated for their troubles (compared to executives).<p>Now the best part - from an employees’ perspective, a company is provides them&#x2F;their family security and shelter (Maslov’s bottom hierarchy). Some of us luck out and work at companies where we believe in their mission (upper half of the hierarchy of needs).<p>I’ve always known the above, but writing it down at once gave me a profound realization - a company is a mutual agreement. Doing work that is valued by the company in exchange for personal security (money, benefits, perks, etc). Either side can choose to walk away any time and they have control over how they do it. This is the part that sucks the most and is least consistent. Like getting laid off over zoom, all access being immediately revoked, etc vs more humane layoffs such as Gitlabs - where each affected individuals manager reached out to them. This should be non-negotiable in my opinion.<p>Dehumanizing the act of laying off someone is the most selfish and disrespectful thing an organization can ever do.<p>To think about it - this isn’t all that different from a breakup.<p>In any case, I think the law can work on the last thing above and maybe - just maybe - there is also an opportunity to revisit the notice period (esp. in the case of a layoff&#x2F;firing an employee). Mandatory 2 weeks or pay in lieu seems little&#x2F;too short, especially for an employee who may have worked somewhere for years. I don’t know if there are labor laws surrounding severance, but I am clear now that we need them to fix the disbalance of power between a company (say 100 people or more) and an employee.