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Ask HN: Is YouTube now just tube?

20 点作者 litiholofan超过 2 年前
Go and search &quot;turkey earthquake&quot; on youtube. I had over 200 videos in a row of TV news channel video uploads. Its literally 100% TV shit. Not a single user-created video or even local footage uploaded. If I wanted to watch TV I&#x27;d buy a TV and turn it on.<p>Is Youtube just tube now?

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irthomasthomas超过 2 年前
Yep. It&#x27;s been like this for a few years already. Maybe rumble or something else is better, now? I don&#x27;t watch many videos any more. My personal pet pieve is streamers that do nothing but comment on other videos. You get 10 seconds of the original video and 10 minutes of empty commentary. I don&#x27;t mind if they add value, but that is rarely the case, today. It feels more like gate keeping, &quot;don&#x27;t bother watching that congressional hearing, just listen to me, instead.&quot;
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passwordoops超过 2 年前
I think there has been a big push for &quot;official&quot; viewpoints in the aftermath of COVID, which really is a shame. I think back to the 2016 Turkey Coup attempt as an example where uploads and live streams from the ground were so much more valuable than the news
LinuxBender超过 2 年前
<i>Go and search &quot;turkey earthquake&quot; on youtube.</i><p>I agree that legacy media finally figured out that Youtube was eating their lunch. That said I think that most of the earthquake impacted areas would have very poor cell&#x2F;data coverage until things are rebuilt. I don&#x27;t have anything to back this up but I would assume that most of the survivors do not have internet at the moment. They have much bigger issues to contend with. News media are probably some of the few outsiders allowed in the damaged areas.
eimrine超过 2 年前
What content do you expect asking that question not from Turkey IP? I suppose that no user-gen video from that area will be in English.
fdgsdfogijq超过 2 年前
They are removing all the user generated content for big news events. What you have to do is sort by new and set duration to some short time period. You will notice the videos you see there will eventually disappear from search
satvikpendem超过 2 年前
It&#x27;s not even tube anymore, since the vast majority of viewers aren&#x27;t using cathode ray screens, ie tubes.
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fiftyacorn超过 2 年前
I agree that YT isnt what it was, but the Turkish earthquake is not a good example for turkish videos since Erdogan had said they were monitoring social media following the earthquake
sys32768超过 2 年前
I recall it was after Trump&#x27;s election that Google started prioritizing official outlets in YouTube search results for anything political.<p>That made it very hard to find the parody&#x2F;compilation videos poking fun at politicians unless you manually resorted by view count.
gardenhedge超过 2 年前
yeah, they literally set a success path up for tiktok
wwwpatdelcom超过 2 年前
Starting about 3 months ago, I have been attempting to be a disciplined YouTuber for the first time since joining in 2006. Here&#x27;s my channel. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;@patdel">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;@patdel</a><p>Sorry in advance for being long-winded here, I have been thinking about this a lot:<p>I have another channel where I sporadically posted life videos over time, one of which has over 250,000 views.<p>What I notice from transitioning over to actually attempting to create quality opinion pieces &#x2F; reporting is that it takes a massive amount of thinking&#x2F;resources. So if you have little to no subscribers, if you want a 500 view video, you probably have to put 20-40 hours in, at least for technical content, and it needs to be somewhat topical.<p>If you listen to a lot of the really high-end YouTubers on podcasts, they are insistent that the algorithm really doesn&#x27;t matter as much as the video quality.<p>Starting out, YouTube is very conservative about sharing a video internally on its own platform, because they don&#x27;t know whether your video sucks. You can get them to accelerate that sharing process by using other networks, Twitter, message to friends, etc., but ultimately if you don&#x27;t show a super high average watch time, your individual video will not blow up.<p>So that&#x27;s the difficulty as an individual creator, particularly just starting out - you have a huge hill to climb. I notice smaller individual creators, in the 10k or so subscriber range, hack this by just creating new content constantly on a weekly basis. I struggle with this because I believe a lot of that content is largely garbage, and I know that if I were to do that, it would likely also be absolute garbage.<p>Now contrast this to news media outlets, who have been doing this for decades - they know how to pump out super high quality stuff on a daily or nightly basis, they have paid teams, studio set ups, editors, the capability to buy footage, etc.<p>So basically, &quot;the algorithm doesn&#x27;t matter bro, it&#x27;s about quality content,&quot; is true, but at the same time, the algorithm really does matter, because YouTube constantly needs to pump out new content, and the best new content, or consistent new content is from professional studios, because for them to put in 20-40 hours of work on a video on a daily basis is already their bread and butter.<p>Does that make sense? Or am I off base here?<p>Anyway I think the only way to combat it is the same as with any other social media site - you have to actively curate your subscriptions to the content you want. On YouTube this often means being super aggressive and saying, &quot;don&#x27;t show me content fro this channel,&quot; not just disliking a video. I believe YouTube is very aggressive about showing you content that your frontal lobe might not want to see, but it knows your amygdala really wants to see, YouTube doesn&#x27;t really listen to your recommendation input very closely.
PaulHoule超过 2 年前
I watch Denys Davydov every day to keep up with the war in Ukraine, also there are some veteran US soldiers who vlog a little less often but who contribute a lot of understanding.<p>Techmoan changed my life and got me into collecting audio gear again, I’m afraid he is not vlogging as often as he used to because of health challenges.<p>Commercial stuff is part of it though, for the first time I am watching an anime series, the remake of <i>Urusei Yatsura</i>, as soon as it comes out. Uploaders seem to be playing a game of whack-a-mole with the censors, often putting things in the video to confuse the content filters.
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