The problem, or a problem, is us. We overlook lies of certain forms, almost without thinking.<p>For example, look at the claims that the Genentech internal review was routine. I don't believe it at all; I read it as 'we believe this claim will stand because you can't prove otherwise'. That is not honesty at all, but a normalized protocol for lying. I'll bet you didn't think twice about the integrity of doing that.<p>But my key point is that, if that claim is disproven, what is the result? Do we say Genentech and the individuals making these claims are liars, and not to be trusted? Are they shamed and shunned, their reputations damaged? No, we've normalized accepting these lies; it will just be viewed as losing a game, as the normal result of the protocol - it was disproven so the claim falls. Honesty is not implicated.<p>We are lied to because we accept it, we normalize it, we don't even notice it.