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Udacity and the future of online universities

314 点作者 iamabhi9超过 13 年前

15 条评论

ramanujan超过 13 年前
Part of the backstory here is that ai-class.com is by Udacity (Sebastian Thrun), while ml-class.org and pgm-class.org are by Coursera (Andrew Ng and Daphne Koller). Formerly colleagues from the same department, now competitors with very similar education startups, all the way down to the naming conventions. Lot of fur flying about who copied who.<p>Coursera has been launching a ton of classes[1]. Probably Sebastian feels that to beat Andrew and Daphne, he has to go full time.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.cs101-class.org/hub.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs101-class.org/hub.php</a>
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mtrn超过 13 年前
Took the AI class and it was just amazing. I never had a professor more passionate (yet still rational :) about a subject.<p>Even though the course made the math and the background sound simple, it wasn't. There is a probably thin line between breaking-down things into a set of well-partitioned and easy to understand statements and oversimplifying really complex systems.<p>Also, the applications (edge detectors, robotic cars, particle filter based localizations, ...) kept me very motivated throughout the course.
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silverlake超过 13 年前
It looks like Khan Academy for college-level, semester long classes. He should target the University of Phoenix's crappy online program. Their parent company, the Apollo Group, has a market cap of $7B. Thrun could easily take a huge bite out of that.
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sown超过 13 年前
I think Stanford is more for keeping things closer to the status quo. Students in seats is how they make their money, after all. Not to say that they won't make courses online. I think they would be more than happy to charge $5,000 like they do through SCPD. However, if this develops the way I think it does, the economies of scale have to take over, right, especially after reading about Professor Norvig's discussion last month (<a href="http://remotelearningproject.com/interviews/peter-norvig/" rel="nofollow">http://remotelearningproject.com/interviews/peter-norvig/</a>) about potential business models that try to keep it mostly free.<p>I'm very excited.<p>PS: I've noted that the PGM course website says it'll start in Feburary.
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dhawalhs超过 13 年前
I have built something to keep track of all these courses <a href="http://www.class-central.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.class-central.com</a>. Currently tracking just Coursera(Stanford's online learning initiative) courses, but would be adding UDACITY and MITx courses(when they are announced) soon.
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ap22213超过 13 年前
I hope this is just a first step toward big future ideas.<p>Many highly sought professors already have great brands, and I'm surprised that they are so highly underpaid for what they do. Many of them could be getting paid a lot more in scale. Further, they could also be providing value-add services to directly validate some of the best on-line students and grant certifications of expertise. Think of the mozilla badge model [1]. There are hundreds of ways to spin out revenue and scale that model.<p>[1] <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Badges/About" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Badges/About</a>
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andreyf超过 13 年前
The actual website is here: <a href="http://www.udacity.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.udacity.com/</a><p>For those interested, looks like they're offering two classes (CS101: Building a Search Engine and CS373: Programming a Robotic Car) starting in February and hiring actively, as well (<a href="http://www.udacity.com/jobs" rel="nofollow">http://www.udacity.com/jobs</a>).
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johngalt超过 13 年前
Prof. Thrun is an <i>amazing</i> teacher, but I think the 160,000 student sign-ups were due to the Stanford affiliation. Giving up that affiliation will cut enrollement sharply. Any likely business model will cause another sharp decline in enrollment. Thrun has all the right ideas, but on his own it will be tough to execute.<p>Education is ripe for disruption. Thrun+Ng+Norvig+Stanford as a cohesive team could have made a <i>history altering</i> change in education. It's unfortunate that they aren't a team.
johnohara超过 13 年前
It all comes down to certifying student proficiency (course credit).<p>Udacity and Coursera are not really competitors in the area of course content. They are competitors in the area of student certification. In the reputation behind the process. Meaning rigorous final exams, independently administered, suitable for inclusion on curricula vitae, etc.<p>By offering courses for free, Udacity and Coursera compete directly with Stanford. But Stanford can compete with them just as well, by allowing students to enroll in the free classes, mentoring them, and then offering their own certification exams -- for credit.<p>My guess is they won't do that. They'll just find someone else to teach the course. But I bet in the future they intend to keep a very close eye on the department.
jasonMalcolmHz超过 13 年前
Since doing the online AI course, I have been hoping Thrun would teach Robotics.<p>I have signed up - woohoo. It looks awesome - I am stoked - Sebastian Thrun is an amazing teacher, he really makes me think hard and gives me the scaffolding to investigate further on my own.
lazerwalker超过 13 年前
What I find problematic about all of these new online education startups (Udacity, Khan Academy, etc) is that they tackle the problem by simply providing online equivalents to traditional didactic learning methods like lectures and textbooks.<p>A professor standing in front of a group of students lecturing is definitely easy for the professor and cost-efficient to scale up to larger class sizes, but that's just not how a lot of students learn. I'd wager that most HNers learned programming through actually writing code, even those who learned CS through a formal program. In the humanities, I'd argue that the most effective way to learn is through small discussion groups, not a distinguished professor explaining literature or philosophical works to you. Just throwing that up on the internet is an easy way to expand your audience, but providing higher-quality educational materials doesn't do anything to improve the quality of <i>how</i> we educate.<p>The internet has a lot of potential to improve the quality of education, and there are tons of awesome startups working on it (companies like Codecademy and Coursekit come to mind), but I personally hope the future of online education doesn't look too much like Udacity.
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iamabhi9超过 13 年前
<a href="http://robots.stanford.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://robots.stanford.edu/</a>
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waterlesscloud超过 13 年前
I wonder if his departure has anything to do with the delay of the other courses? Maybe he took some students/staff/resources with him that were key to the infrastructure?
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ilamont超过 13 年前
Relevant to this article is a blog post written by a Stanford Student taking the machine learning class:<p><a href="http://pennyhacks.com/2011/12/28/stanford-free-classes-a-review-from-a-stanford-student/" rel="nofollow">http://pennyhacks.com/2011/12/28/stanford-free-classes-a-rev...</a><p>HN discussion here:<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3399976" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3399976</a>
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melling超过 13 年前
What happens to the self-driving car? That was his life's dream.
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