TE
科技回声
首页24小时热榜最新最佳问答展示工作
GitHubTwitter
首页

科技回声

基于 Next.js 构建的科技新闻平台,提供全球科技新闻和讨论内容。

GitHubTwitter

首页

首页最新最佳问答展示工作

资源链接

HackerNews API原版 HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 科技回声. 版权所有。

Facebook and Google hand over user data, help police prosecute abortion seekers

234 点作者 manwithaplan大约 2 年前

23 条评论

croes大约 2 年前
Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear.<p>Unless they change the laws and suddenly you have something to hide.
评论 #35028682 未加载
评论 #35028556 未加载
评论 #35028658 未加载
评论 #35028337 未加载
评论 #35028812 未加载
评论 #35028345 未加载
f6v大约 2 年前
Is the issue that Meta and Google comply with the law(turning in the data to crime investigators), or that the law itself is medieval? I mean, both are concerning in their own way. But the latter seems like a much much bigger problem.
评论 #35028618 未加载
评论 #35033518 未加载
评论 #35028461 未加载
评论 #35028697 未加载
评论 #35028507 未加载
评论 #35030789 未加载
ThinkBeat大约 2 年前
&gt;Facebook and Google comply with the law. &gt;When presented with a valid warrant they hand over the data requested.<p>The article seems to imply that the big social media companies should selectively comply with a valid warrant based on what crime the accused has committed.<p>I think you should either have problem with the entire procedure or agree that the procedure is valid.
评论 #35028505 未加载
评论 #35030133 未加载
manwithaplan大约 2 年前
User chat logs and search history released by social media companies to police can be used to prosecute people for abortion, even when they are being investigated for other reasons.
评论 #35028293 未加载
feeela大约 2 年前
Is this real? This sounds like a weird trip back into medieval times. Who is the head of that modern Inquisition?
评论 #35028554 未加载
DennisAleynikov大约 2 年前
We did it. We made the dystopia
评论 #35028815 未加载
评论 #35028362 未加载
评论 #35028197 未加载
psychphysic大约 2 年前
The only take away from this article is that somehow they could read the change logs.<p>Doesn&#x27;t that fly in the face of metas own claims to not be able to?<p>BI seems to be implying that abortion shouldn&#x27;t be treated as a crime in places where it is a crime.
评论 #35028409 未加载
评论 #35028364 未加载
mgraczyk大约 2 年前
IMO the most realistic way to improve this situation is to get more people using E2EE chat apps, and fight against any attempt by government to weaken or ban encryption.<p>Meta the company hates this and is spending money on ads trying to get people to use WhatsApp with end to end encryption for things like this.
评论 #35032587 未加载
aboringusername大约 2 年前
Although it probably sucks for the individuals at the receiving end of the scales of justice I believe this is an important public education campaign which will hopefully raise awareness of the scale and extent of data collection.<p>There seems to be a disconnect between data being collected from a terminal, how rich that data can be, and what it can be used for. If you use a digital keyboard your every keystroke can, and probably <i>is</i> being logged - we used to call this spyware, now even the keyboard app on your phone has clipboard sync (and it&#x27;s built into Windows too!).<p>People need to be aware for example when activating javascript (and most don&#x27;t know what that is), how much the various APIs are collecting and storing, which is used to build a &quot;fingerprint&quot; of your device.<p>The web (and digital devices in general) is actively hostile, anyone who uses noscript can attest to that and anyone who goes onto any news media website and opens &quot;network&quot; via web dev console can see how much data is flying to god knows where to do god knows what.<p>If you want to defy the state you need to be a master spy, this means actually <i>thinking</i> how you research, and probably learning a thing or two from Snowden (are you on wifi? open hotspot? is your device logging anything, if so, what? do you need to destroy the device afterwards incase it gets forensically inspected? If you could read &#x2F;var&#x2F;log what would be there and would it reveal anything about your situation? If you <i>can&#x27;t</i> read &#x2F;var&#x2F;log then your device is actively hostile and not worth the risk).<p>Privacy is effort, and, in these cases, the &#x27;seekers&#x27; are not spending enough effort on hiding their tracks and they are like fish in shallow water, easy pickings.<p>The ones who are clued up are not the ones who end up making the press, because they <i>know</i> exactly how to cover their tracks, and make it <i>impossible</i> to prove or disprove a fact, which, thankfully at least at this moment, is how justice works (for the most part).
clbrmbr大约 2 年前
&gt; We do not provide governments with &#x27;back doors&#x27; to people&#x27;s information.<p>PRISM?<p>Serious question. I thought that was still a thing.
Semaphor大约 2 年前
Is this unexpected? Of course, they follow warrants, why wouldn’t they?
评论 #35028267 未加载
评论 #35028476 未加载
bboygravity大约 2 年前
Interesting to realize that I now have to equally self-censor whether I&#x27;m using WeChat (China) versus any US-based service (Western world) for communication..
评论 #35028474 未加载
numbers_guy大约 2 年前
It shouldn&#x27;t be up to Facebook&#x2F;Google to decide what is a crime, nor in which cases wiretapping should be allowed.
评论 #35028405 未加载
评论 #35028338 未加载
评论 #35028238 未加载
评论 #35028522 未加载
qwray大约 2 年前
I miss the good old days when you could just open a telephone book and no one would know what you were looking up. Now everything you do is recorded by a third party.<p>Don&#x27;t use Facebook or Google.
评论 #35029538 未加载
nl大约 2 年前
Note that you can turn on E2E encryption in FB Messenger (as well as WhatsApp). It does lose a few features, but people should probably be aware it is possible.
评论 #35032641 未加载
Barrin92大约 2 年前
Baffling to me that people still use Messenger. Not even switching the company is necessary, with WhatsApp at least they&#x27;d have message encryption.
评论 #35028356 未加载
learnedSloth大约 2 年前
Is the next step extending citizen rights to unborn babies?
31337Logic大约 2 年前
And they wonder why we don&#x27;t trust Big Tech.
nurgasemetey大约 2 年前
What employees will think about their companies?
dools大约 2 年前
This is not the story.<p>The story is Roe v. Wade overturned due to heinous corruption of the US political process in favour of the religious right and free market libertarians.
评论 #35028559 未加载
评论 #35028571 未加载
评论 #35028585 未加载
DeathArrow大约 2 年前
Aren&#x27;t they handling user data for any other case of law breaking?
评论 #35028568 未加载
aww_dang大约 2 年前
The framing is inflammatory. What most people can agree upon is that the surveillance state is out of control.<p>I&#x27;m sure I&#x27;ll be flamed into oblivion here, but it is worth considering the headline from the perspective of the anti-abortionists. If we cannot empathize or attempt to understand those who disagree, what is the point of having a discussion?<p>&quot;FB and Google hand over user data, help to prosecute baby killers&quot;<p>Reasonable people can disagree on the topic of abortion or at what stage of pregnancy it is acceptable. HN is not the place where I want to have that discussion. It has already been explored at depth elsewhere.
评论 #35028553 未加载
评论 #35028577 未加载
评论 #35028564 未加载
throwntoday大约 2 年前
Abortions were a convenient way to keep women locked into the workforce. There could be no escape from wageslaving. Now that the population is in the shitter, they criminalize abortion.
评论 #35028323 未加载
评论 #35028280 未加载