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I'm a very slow thinker (2016)

547 点作者 mihau大约 2 年前

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silveroriole大约 2 年前
This is why I can’t do meetings. Like the article, all I end up saying is “I don’t know.” I get battered into agreeing with the other person in the meeting because I can’t debate with them off the cuff, and it’s like social interaction uses up 100% of my brain and leaves nothing for me to think with. I only ever manage to form an opinion after the meeting is over, or I end up not hearing 90% of the meeting because I was still thinking about something from the beginning of it. If you ask me a question verbally and expect an instant answer you’ll end up wondering whether I’ve even seen a computer before. It sucks.
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thiago_fm大约 2 年前
That&#x27;s a typical INTP &#x2F; type 5 enneagram brain wiring. I&#x27;m exactly like this.<p>The real issue for us is first time impressions. If people knew you before because of something important you&#x27;ve done, they will respect you. Otherwise, you&#x27;ll fail to impress in the most important time: the first impression.<p>It took me a long time in my career &amp; expensive coaching sessions and so on, to understand that I really need to work my ass off for my first impression, even more that I don&#x27;t give ChatGPT-like responses to everything (lots of confidence, but just plainly wrong).<p>Of course, if I can just use my credentials to give an initial impression, that&#x27;s better. But that&#x27;s not usually the case. When it isn&#x27;t, I need to be very present and aware that &quot;it&#x27;s my first impression, no need to be so precise, just say something silly and light-hearted.&quot;, because that&#x27;s what most people typically expect.<p>I started to find examples of people who dealt with this very well, like Steve Jobs and other people that are known to make long pauses and to think before they say something. But even those people aren&#x27;t a great examples, because they generally are known to be geniuses at their fields and this basically makes your audience want to listen to you.<p>You just really need to work on that skill, or accept that it will hamper your progress in life.
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marcus_holmes大约 2 年前
An ex-boss of mine was like this. He would pause before answering anything. I, being an impatient idiot, would fill in the awkward pause and carry on talking. Then he would answer the original question and interrupt me, and I&#x27;d have to scramble back to the original context and continue from there. I did slowly learn to give him time to think and not fill in the awkward silence, but it was hard.<p>One of the smartest guys I&#x27;ve worked with, and an excellent boss. I tried emulating his ability to think hard before replying, but my brain doesn&#x27;t work like that. I make intuitive leaps to an answer that I have very little rational path to and then find it incredibly hard to shift from that answer (or expand on it).<p>I can think hard on things, but I need peace, quiet, and preferably to be walking near trees, to do it. And my thinking process is about making lots of intuitive leaps and then filtering them, rather than rationally deducting a train of thought.<p>Brains are fascinating.<p>edit: also an INTP, verging on ENTP as I get older
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lapcat大约 2 年前
This is one reason why I hate job interviews. Also timed standardized tests. They filter for memorization, not thoughtfulness.<p>To be clear, I&#x27;m good at memorization, if I&#x27;m allowed the opportunity to practice beforehand, as the author explains about his media interviews. But I still object on principle to testing the wrong things, and I don&#x27;t always have the opportunity, time, or inclination to memorize some trivia to satisfy the cargo cult.
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credit_guy大约 2 年前
I just read [1] that George Washington was like that. Not only was he a slow thinker, he was practically uneducated by the standards of the other Founding Fathers, indeed he didn&#x27;t even go to college. He couldn&#x27;t speak any language other than English, and it appears he couldn&#x27;t read Latin. He never traveled to Europe.<p>Despite all these, George Washington was considered by his contemporaries as an &quot;American Cato&quot;, which at the time was the highest form of praise.<p>And of course, the US wouldn&#x27;t exist without Washington, who is the ultimate example of a general who could get a lot done with only a little.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;First_Principles_(book)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;First_Principles_(book)</a>
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selimnairb大约 2 年前
I might be a slow thinker as well, or at least not as smart as I think I am. As I’ve gotten older I’ve started taking Mark Twain’s quote to heart: “It&#x27;s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.” In the case of thinking in the moment, if I don’t have something cogent to add, I say as little as possible.
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hyperpape大约 2 年前
Is he a slow thinker, or does he just have high p50&#x2F;p90 latency?<p>If you treat the output of thinking as generating observations, marshalling evidence, drawing connections (and so on), then thinking slowly really isn&#x27;t anything to celebrate. A slow thinker takes a day to give you an answer that someone else could&#x27;ve given in 15 minutes. They have poor minimum latency and bad throughput. And don&#x27;t forget scaling--some people will give you the same answer on day 3 they give you after 15 minutes, others benefit from throwing more resources (time) at the problem.<p>Having met plenty of &quot;slow thinkers&quot; who are smarter than I am, they&#x27;re not really slow, just higher latency. They take time, but they generate good ideas that someone else wouldn&#x27;t have. And they build on their ideas over time.
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tzhenghao大约 2 年前
I can relate with author. It takes me a while to actually synthesize questions thrown at me, and sometimes I look like a fool staring back silently but I&#x27;m enumerating through a bunch of responses in my head. Ultimately, it&#x27;s like a chess game where I don&#x27;t instinctively make a move just yet.
jongjong大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m a fast thinker and good at debating but I&#x27;m a relatively slow learner. It&#x27;s probably because I tend to initially disbelieve everything I&#x27;m taught - I need to see a lot of cross-references and utility value before my brain will accept new information and it will still not seem like it is a sure fact. I never feel like I know anything with 100% certainty. Every piece of knowledge I have is more like a probability in my mind.<p>I have great memory when it comes to useful or interesting things but if I can&#x27;t figure out the utility of some information, my brain struggles to learn it and will quickly discard it.<p>The most interesting experience I remember was at school when I was a small child. I didn&#x27;t understand the concept of school or education at that point. I remember after I moved up a grade, the teacher was referencing concepts which I had learned the year before (I think it was related to alphabet and reading) but because I was in a different class (and different teacher), I did not make the (supposedly obvious) assumption that the teacher was referring to concepts from the previous year (which came from a different source). In my mind, because I didn&#x27;t understand the purpose of education or school, I had fully compartmentalized the knowledge from the previous year&#x2F;grade and I couldn&#x27;t make sense of the content from the later grade which built on top. Once I learned the purpose of school and figured out that knowledge from previous years was still relevant and that knowledge wasn&#x27;t supposed to be compartmentalized based on the teacher&#x2F;class, I was able to start learning faster. At least fast enough to be a slightly above average student throughout all my school and university years. I remember being surprised that all other kids seemed to know intuitively that knowledge &#x27;stacked&#x27; regardless of the teacher or context. It was a big revelation to me.<p>I still think I have a tendency to compartmentalize information&#x2F;knowledge provided to me by different people. My brain compartmentalizes everything based on source until there is enough consensus&#x2F;synthesis between the sources and then it gets merged into the trunk.<p>But now that I think of it, it doesn&#x27;t seem that ridiculous for a child to think that knowledge taught by different people isn&#x27;t compatible... If you think about modern education, it&#x27;s actually quite amazing and weird that two different teachers who never met might have the exact same knowledge as each other to the extent that they can reference each other&#x27;s thoughts and ideas... To a child, it can seem like telepathy.
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karmakaze大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m both a slow thinker like this, as well as a fast thinker who will spew out the first intuitive thing that pops into my head. I will usually follow up with either amendments or contradictions to what I&#x27;ve said shortly after or the next day&#x2F;week. On the other extreme, I used to pause and think to assess and accurately answer &quot;How are you doing?&quot; greetings, before realizing that it just means hello.<p>The short of it is, if people want quick answers I&#x27;ll give them but will often change my opinion when new information from even my own noggin changes it. It&#x27;s also good to pause to give less senior folks have a crack at it and refine those. Sometimes surprising&#x2F;better lines of reasoning can arise.
jgrahamc大约 2 年前
People sometimes tell me I explain or write well. That&#x27;s usually because I don&#x27;t understand the thing I am dealing with and have to explain them to myself. And I want to really understand which can make me seem &quot;slow&quot;.
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mtrimpe大约 2 年前
I once had I colleague that I had lots and lots of trouble engaging with. Over and over again I would try to get my point across but fail.<p>That was until I noticed that if I picked up the discussion again the next day he had internalized yesterday&#x27;s conversation. From then on I worked perfectly fine with him building up shared understanding one point at a time.<p>I really wish for him, and me, that there was a word he could&#x27;ve used to describe his style of thinking. I&#x27;m sure it would save everyone many a frustration.
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racktash大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m definitely somebody who likes time to think things over and let my conflicting thoughts resolve themselves.<p>I think in addition to this, though, I struggle to verbalise many of my thoughts and feelings no matter how long I&#x27;m given. I&#x27;ve always struggled with pair programming for this reason – I have a sort of gut instinct about many coding best practices, developed through years of experience, without always being able to efficiently summarise the whys.
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teekert大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m opposite: I&#x27;ll start talking, correct myself, let myself be led by my conversation partner&#x27;s answer and reach a conclusion. It&#x27;s like rubberduck debugging for arguments.<p>If you ask me a question now, it must be a very exceptional one if I&#x27;m still thinking about it in 2 min.<p>For this reason I am really poor at making a presentation or writing IP by myself. I seek out others. My thoughts sort of go on repeat all by myself. It&#x27;s annoying.<p>Maybe I also want to impress others, right then and there, and by myself there is little motivation.<p>Right now I should be working on a presentation for tomorrow, but I procrastinate. But I could easily whip it out if I were to discuss the stuff I want to tell with someone and jot down slides as we talk.
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svat大约 2 年前
I was going to post this on another thread (the Neal Stephenson one <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35015121" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35015121</a>), but it also fits here: Donald Knuth does all his writing (even coding!) by hand with pencil on notepad, going through several rounds of editing before anything reaches a computer, and his stated reason is that he can type faster than he can think. (Somewhere a typing speed of 80 wpm is mentioned, which is not even all <i>that</i> fast.) So he says that writing by hand, being slower, perfectly matches the speed at which he can think. In other words, he describes himself as a slow thinker.<p>(We can actually get some glimpses of the way he thinks from his public lectures, e.g. I love the 2017 Christmas lecture <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=BxQw4CdxLr8">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=BxQw4CdxLr8</a> or maybe—I haven&#x27;t watched much—the 1985 problem-solving seminar course <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLABJEFgj0PWW9fQwb8JVDRaorXNin8VgC">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLABJEFgj0PWW9fQwb8JVD...</a> .)<p>And if Knuth describes himself as a slow thinker, it is a lesson to us all.
nickcw大约 2 年前
I love reading what Derek Sivers writes - he has become a wise man.<p>Quick responses and slow responses reminds me of Daniel Kahneman&#x27;s book &quot;Thinking, Fast and Slow&quot;. I found it a very thought provoking read and in particular how often our quick responses are completely wrong with 100% confidence.<p>That in turn makes me think that those quick responses are very much like what ChatGPT does - come up with the most likely thing to say using our meat based large language model.
nraynaud大约 2 年前
What’s interesting is that it ties in with the Hollywood mindset, where everything is a nice story in 3 parts. While deep thinking is full of re-phrasing, interrupted sentences, and long silence where we are googling. A nightmare to do an interactive show about.<p>Edit: and then feel bad about ourselves for not being able to tell a nice linear story like in he movies. But it doesn’t work with original thinking.
yodsanklai大约 2 年前
I read an interview of a world-class mathematicians who said that she was a &quot;slow thinker&quot;. Obviously, as far as maths are concerned, she&#x27;s faster than almost all humanity. This notion of being a slow thinker is very subjective and relative.
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kstenerud大约 2 年前
Debates are a stupid concept anyway. They&#x27;re nothing more than verbal jousting, with people looking to score points on the other and &quot;win&quot;. That does not an intelligent or useful discussion make.
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marginalia_nu大约 2 年前
I think this describes me as well. Although I do wonder if part of the problem isn&#x27;t that I&#x27;m fairly prone to the associative mode of thinking and highly reluctant to the linear mode of thinking so I struggle to reason my way to an answer.<p>I can give answers to questions I&#x27;ve already thought about, but if you give me a new question all my brain will output is &quot;spinner.gif&quot; until I&#x27;ve gone for a walk or something. It&#x27;s very hard to get it to think about a particular topic and arrive at a timely answer.<p>Honestly it&#x27;s not great all the time.
A4ET8a8uTh0大约 2 年前
I am not going to say anything really new here, but since I am living in US, I am going to cover American aspect. From my perspective, culture is to blame for this.<p>It does not matter what you do, but everyone expects an answer for anything yesterday. All sales are structured to pressure you into making a decision as soon as possible to prevent any kind of critical considerations ( on the off-chance you will come to your senses ). It is bad enough that when I am visiting doctors, they, too, try to structure their patients to a smallest window possible ( and I sure as fuck can&#x27;t really process the information in seconds -- for numerous reasons including the obvious one: I don&#x27;t have the medical background ).<p>The last straw for me was purchasing my new car with wife ( she was rushing me, because she just wanted it to be over with while I was going through the steps to see what I like, don&#x27;t like, see reviews and so on ).<p>The whole culture is nuts and not helpful to anyone who thinks carefully about their next steps. For me, it took forever to simply say &#x27;no, stop&#x27;. Granted, you can&#x27;t always do that ( meetings likely being a good example, but it is not like a decision always has to be taken in those -- maybe it can be postponed if you think you can take the pressure of being &#x27;that guy everyone waits on&#x27; ).
mrangle大约 2 年前
Time improves all output, including from &quot;fast thinkers&quot;. To illustrate no writers, including students, can produce their first rate work on their first draft. Much of the time it takes not only revision(s), but time away from the first round of thinking.<p>I like that the author is self-aware in this manner, and I&#x27;m sure that he has interesting output once it comes. But this process is the opposite of unique.<p>And now on to a contravening view: there is a time value to most valuable things including thought. It is a talent to be able to cobble together useful almost first-rate (novel) output on the fly. Which I assume has to do with the individual&#x27;s rate of cognitive pattern processing &quot;depth&quot;. Pattern processing being pretty well correlated with IQ.<p>Though there should be exceptions. Like for people with auditory processing issues, or those that look like them. Whose pattern processing may be fast but who need a little bit of extra time to process language. Sometimes there is not enough time in the interaction, especially if it is within a group setting. Apsergers-type individuals arguably often match this pattern.
mikeponders大约 2 年前
There is nothing wrong with taking a few seconds to answer something. As Sivers notes, sometimes not every question needs an answer, sometimes you need time and courage to just admit you don&#x27;t know something concretely. If the other person is<p>- so impatient that they cannot wait some seconds for your answer<p>- not having a minimum attention span<p>- interrupting out of awkwardness or entitlement<p>you should rethink why you are allowing this.<p>I understand there are some situations and certain jobs that really require quick thinking (more like automatically recalling from their memory) under pressure and people are trained to behave in that manner, such as military and emergency services. Not every situation is like this and you cannot be possibly be prepared for every situation.<p>I remember something that my uncle (a doctor) said to me while telling me stories from his education and medical practice. &quot;When you are unsure of something you should always ask&#x2F;consult someone. It is wiser to admit you do not know something rather than give a wrong [and potentially lethal] answer.&quot;
bookofjoe大约 2 年前
&gt;Thinking, Fast and Slow<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0374533555&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?crid=21P44V97OW58S&amp;keywords=thinking+fast+and+slow&amp;qid=1678110879&amp;sprefix=thinking+fast+and+slow%2Caps%2C71&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman&#x2F;dp...</a>
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docmars大约 2 年前
I never thought of this as being a deliberate process, once identified. I think subconsciously I do this all the time, but most of the time I feel pressured to have a good answer in any given moment.<p>I&#x27;m a strong Extroverted Intuitor (Ne) in the MBTI cognitive functions, so I&#x27;m able to think on my feet and ideate rapidly with great comfort, but as you said, those answers may not even be right. Given more time, showers, house cleaning, and hikes, I may arrive at an even better answer, and I find that is often the case.<p>The classic ah-ha moments are a long break away from the topic at hand.
talkingtab大约 2 年前
I am probably the slowest thinker I have ever met. (Let me know if you are slower). This may not show because I often reject ideas immediately. What happens (I think) is that someone saying &quot;gluons are the answer to world peace&quot; triggers my current (outdated) understanding that &quot;a gluon has nothing to do with world peace&quot;. It is only later that the idea that perhaps a gluon is a metaphor for the exchange of charged political opinions comes along. Hmmm. It is only later, days or weeks, that I fully take in the concept. (And no, I don&#x27;t think gluons are the answer to world peace, but still ...)
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iamflimflam1大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m a bit of both. And it often depends on who I&#x27;m interacting with&#x2F;how comfortable I am with the person.<p>With some people talking through ideas is easy - they understand that way of thinking and know that when you are talking it&#x27;s a work in progress and not the final idea.<p>Other people it&#x27;s more tricky. When you say something they interpret as the conclusion of a lot of deep thinking and will assume you are a complete ass when you trot out some half formed idea.<p>You just need to learn how other people work to make sure you don&#x27;t mess things up.
theusus大约 2 年前
It was similar with me, and turned out I had social anxiety and depression. Just because I didn&#x27;t want to upset anyone. I avoided saying anything, and soon it became a habit.
mindwork大约 2 年前
This article had huge influence on me when I first read it. It helped me to understand that I&#x27;m not alone, and that there are people like that in the world. That thinking slow is not a mental deficiency or lack of something, but rather different way of processing information. There was nothing wrong with me. And it gave me the hope that people who think slow can be successful too. You just have to play your strengths and cover for your weaknesses.
jwmoz大约 2 年前
Surely if you have the knowledge and experience you can think relatively fast. If not then obviously you need time to research and form an opinion. Two different things.
bovermyer大约 2 年前
I am like this.<p>In elementary school, there was a math game we would play. A student would stand up and move next to the desk of the next student in the row. The teacher would ask a math question - &quot;What&#x27;s 4 times 4?&quot; - and the student who answered correctly first would move on, and the other one would sit in the desk. I would _always_ lose, because while I was always right, it would take me several seconds longer than the other student.<p>I&#x27;m an ENFP.
exhaze大约 2 年前
You can be both. I used to identify with author. Then I was forced to get into &quot;sales&quot; (dating, pitching a startup, hiring, literally sales, etc.).<p>I think it&#x27;s good have basic competence at both and not develop this IMHO odd &quot;slow thinker&quot; mentality.<p>Even though I can sometimes make quick &quot;gut decisions&quot; about stuff, I still often tell people: &quot;Let me take a walk and think about this&quot;.<p>Then I take a walk and think about it.
javier_e06大约 2 年前
A penny for your thoughts? The true is you might have a dozen tasks being solved in parallel in your brain while doing the dishes. Hey! I just think I know where that smell comes from in your refrigerator!! You&#x27;ll exclaim while taking about taxes on a comment made yesterday. Asking your brain for answers can be like asking your contractor to finish the driveway in 2 days. She&#x27;ll say yes, but, you know.
lordnacho大约 2 年前
I think it depends on whether you&#x27;re thinking about something technical that requires some reflection. Then it makes sense that you digest it with your rational mind and adjust whatever your initial thoughts were.<p>But the number of times I&#x27;ve met someone and immediately thought &quot;oh what an asshole&quot; only to stick around and find out I was right... I wish I&#x27;d gone with my gut feeling.
danielvaughn大约 2 年前
I&#x27;ve always struggled with this. I am <i>not</i> good at thinking on the spot. I like to say that my brain &quot;simmers&quot; my thoughts - low and slow. This makes all sorts of things challenging - having adhoc conversations, making good impressions during an interview, etc.<p>It&#x27;s nice to hear someone articulate what I&#x27;ve never been able to really put into words.
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eetus大约 2 年前
I feel like I&#x27;m a slow thinker until I&#x27;m able to cache answers derived from experience or from seeing a similar problem.
ouid大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m pretty sure the subtext here is that thinking slower means thinking higher quality thoughts.<p>I&#x27;m pretty skeptical of this. In fact, I&#x27;d wager that what the author is actually doing is not revealing his thoughts quickly. There&#x27;s nothing wrong with being shy or reserved, but let&#x27;s not jump to neurodivergent superpowers just yet.
giardini大约 2 年前
My father said, when he asked for advice, his American Indian friends might ponder a serious question at considerable length (even months). He called it &quot;Indian thinking&quot; and said it always proved worth the wait. He learned that the reluctance to provide a quick answer was an indicator that he should not rush to judgement.
sgt大约 2 年前
Derek Sivers writes very well. What a cool guy.
racl101大约 2 年前
I thought I was a minority in living this way.<p>I&#x27;m not the fastest thinker, I don&#x27;t like giving kneejerk responses in meetings and I really like to take ideas and think about them deeply.<p>I have a capacity to think about any topic deeply but I don&#x27;t have the capacity to evaluate quickly on the spot.
everyone大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m the same imo. I&#x27;ve always found myself to be quite intelligent but also rather slow.
neslisah大约 2 年前
Maybe we just can&#x27;t focus in moment. For me I believe there lies sort of an anxiety. As I push through with someone on communication, it gets better. Also I get this outcome with individual conversations not with a crowded space.
cubefox大约 2 年前
This is a major problem for me in exams, which are usually timed. That&#x27;s somewhat unfair, because in many jobs being right is more important than being quick.
dclowd9901大约 2 年前
I wish I was a slower thinker. It might keep me out of the tiring loop of hopping on news threads and posting comments on articles and waiting to see how they&#x27;re received.
aeonque大约 2 年前
Excellent! Thank you for the reminder that humility isn’t a weakness.<p>Side note: love the “We’ll See” story - it’s a perfect illustration of the power of accepting Impermanence (Buddhism)
Arisaka1大约 2 年前
Now apply this to doctors. It&#x27;s crazy for me that, unless you have a medical issue that tend to encounter frequently enough to have it in their mind, you&#x27;re either met with wrong diagnosis, often accompanied with a dose of &quot;must be stress&quot;.<p>But obviously my experience is 100% anecdotal because I lived 6 years too many with an undiagnosed autoimmune disease, and there&#x27;s a high chance that there&#x27;s one ongoing on top of that.
pcurve大约 2 年前
I’m like this. This makes me useless during post it note brainstorming exercise with time limit. Lol
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robofanatic大约 2 年前
well this can be implemented everywhere except a job interview!<p>“Hmm. I don’t know.” &quot;ask them to send me some questions a week in advance&quot; “We’ll see.”<p>I don&#x27;t think any of the above will land you the job ;-)
PaulMcCartney大约 2 年前
Makes me think back to this letter a teacher wrote to his students at a Jewish girls high school I used to work at. I have it bookmarked for myself.<p>Dear Seniors, At our last class I did not have time to adequately formulate my farewell message to you and I would like to use this opportunity to take a second chance to convey my thoughts to you. Although we have only been together for a very short time over a few months it has been my pleasure and honor to be your teacher. You all have impressed me with your intelligence, your sincere interest in learning and your appreciation of Torah and knowledge. I know that you are nervous about leaving the comfort and safety of high school and entering a new uncharted phase of your life but I want you to know that I am sure that each one of you will continue to succeed in your endeavors. I am not saying that it will be easy, or that you won&#x27;t feel discouraged at times but you should always have confidence in the abilities which I have seen in you. I want to give you one piece of advice. When you see people who seem really smart or have great memories or some other talent, who are very impressive, you should never feel inferior or inadequate. Do not become unduly impressed with appearances and never surrender your right to think for yourself and trust in your own mind. It is often the case that there is a deep wisdom that is not found with the fast mind but resides in the slow, careful, methodical thinker. Please feel free to keep in touch, I would love to hear from you in the future and do not hesitate to ask for anything you think I could help with. Best wishes and I hope to see you at graduation.
kilgnad大约 2 年前
Inevitably a lot of people come here because they relate so a lot of you are slow thinkers who like to think of themselves as smart or different in a better way. It&#x27;s the same phenomenon with so called &quot;introverts.&quot;<p>I hate to tell you this but high IQ correlates with faster thinking. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2009&#x2F;03&#x2F;20&#x2F;102169531&#x2F;smart-people-really-do-think-faster" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2009&#x2F;03&#x2F;20&#x2F;102169531&#x2F;smart-people-really...</a><p>Everybody on HN likes to think of themselves as smart. This isn&#x27;t true. Most people are average. I think this comment thread is an actual gathering of lower IQ people due to the lack of knowledge of the correlation between fast thinkers and IQ. First of it&#x27;s kind I&#x27;ve seen.<p>Good to compare to threads that are loaded with higher IQ people. But you&#x27;d have to find another correlative trait to find that thread.<p>From a logical perspective IQ and faster thinking makes sense. In the same way a faster computer is categorically better in every front then a slower computer.<p>Another measure here is that you see a lot of people using Myers Briggs to state their personality type. This is despite the fact that the test itself has little science behind it. Very unlike an IQ test which has huge amounts of correlative evidence behind it. Higher IQ people likely wouldn&#x27;t put any weight on the personality test.<p>There are some inevitable vote downs for this post but I&#x27;m still interested in contrasting this gathering of stupid people and responses to my post to other threads on HN where the IQ is obviously higher.<p>My own IQ is up in the air. Not sure if I&#x27;m a fast or slow thinker.
moremetadata大约 2 年前
When people perceive you to be a slow thinker when really you are calculating all the odds for your different responses.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.tenor.com&#x2F;MFE6UiMEpRoAAAAC&#x2F;math-zack-galifianakis.gif" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.tenor.com&#x2F;MFE6UiMEpRoAAAAC&#x2F;math-zack-galifiana...</a>
revskill大约 2 年前
It depends on problem you&#x27;re thinking about.<p>If it&#x27;s tactical problem, then slow is not good for others.<p>If it&#x27;s strategic problem, then it&#x27;s good to spend long time on it.
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