Roku devices don't support IPv6 in 2023 and it's costing ISPs

Who the hell is giving their Roku a public IP? How is this remotely a problem? This is 100% not the fault of Roku, and 100% the fault of the ISP. The ISP should have an IPv6 to IPv4 gateway built into their modem&#x2F;router. You have a WAN port that is IPv6 and an LAN port that IPv4.<p>IPv6 for local networks, makes no sense is completely unnecessary, and is a hill I will die on. IPv4 is here to stay.

I have reviewed the logs for our video CDN and out of 150,000 sessions, only 48 were identified to be using IPv6. These sessions were identified by the user-agent Roku&#x2F;DVP-12.0 (12.0.0.xxxx-xx), indicating that the recent update to the operating system now supports IPv6.

The amount of idiocy and ignorance around ipv6 is crazy.<p>I’ve seen many supposedly senior engineers that claimed they didn’t want to implement ipv6 because anyone could connect to hosts from “outside”.<p>Nat has become so engraved in people’s thinking that they can’t even understand the actual role of a firewall anymore.<p>We’re going to see many stories like this, where networking incompetence will start costing pretty pennies to companies.

By traffic it seems like &quot;if only we didn&#x27;t have these Rokus!&quot; but it&#x27;s a streaming device, it generates a lot of traffic compared to the other IPv4 only devices. Inevitably the long tail of devices is what&#x27;s costing them extra (sounds like CG-NAT dual stack or 464xlat at the gateway) not just the Roku devices.<p>As someone who operates their own ASN with IPv6 because I like v6 so much the problem here was simply poor planning. Handing out Apple TV&#x27;s to replace Roku devices isn&#x27;t going to make the need for v4 services go away at these homes.

I really hate Roku as a product, ads on the home screen and the remote(??) of something I paid for? No thanks. Though, I will concede it is cool to load mostly &quot;unapproved&quot; apps if the developer shares the app ID. (Certain x-rated sites liked to advertise they have a Roku app, something that would never make its way to most other TV boxes)

&gt; First off I despise both Apple and that other evil empire (house of mouse) I want nothing to do with either of them.<p>It’s funny that the poster despises Apple. But is okay with a company where the CEO explicitly said that they want to make money not via hardware sells, but via selling user’s television watching behavior.<p>Everything about the Roku is a janky experience. From the ad that takes up the Home Screen to the hard coded buttons that go to the highest bidder.<p>I have one remote that still has a useless Rdio button.

I just bought a brand new motherboard that still has VGA and PS&#x2F;2 ports, so I would guess IPv4 isn&#x27;t going away any time soon. Old standards seem to hang around forever for legacy support. Why an ISP would assume they could set up an IPv6 only network is beyond me.

For a company who thrives on making cheap devices and charging for licenses&#x2F;platform, this is almost a crime especially when supporting ipv6 on Linux based devices is much easier now. Wonder why don’t support it.

What I don’t understand is why. Their OS is built on a linux kernel from at most a couple of years ago. I’m assuming the same goes for the libraries and the parts of the userland they didn’t make themselves. On any linux kernel not from the 90s it’s more effort not to support IPv6. Unless they rolled their own, which would be a tremendously stupid thing to do.

Most consumers don&#x27;t care, and home routers don&#x27;t support it well<p>Most ISPs don&#x27;t support it well, and will still give you a dynamic IP<p>Companies don&#x27;t want to bet their reliability on something that fails as much, with an alternative that is working, and invest to maintain both and troubleshoot them<p>I will worry with IPV6 when I can safely disable IPV4, until then I disable IPV6

The recent Netflix password-sharing cracking may create some Roku victims.<p>The other day, I reviewed the devices logging into my account, all inside my house. However, there was one caveat: two Apple TVs in IPv6 and one Roku in IPV4, with different ASNs, showing as two separate networks 900 km apart. I didn’t receive any Netflix notice so far.

No, the absurdly poor migration path to IPv6 is costing the tech community as a whole.

No one cares about ipv6. not even VPS providers, it&#x27;s always turned off by default unless you want to go through the pain of enabling with commands. no thanks.

&quot;First off I despise both Apple and that other evil empire (house of mouse) I want nothing to do with either of them.&quot;<p>So they decide to go with a company&#x2F;device that has the absolute worst record of spying on their users? Roku is terrible. But if they&#x27;re okay with it looking over their shoulder at everything they watch, then go for it.

There&#x27;s no ipv4 nat for IPv6?

What makes no sense in 2023 is to have an IPv6-only network. That is liable not to work. Someone will eventually bring some old device that won&#x27;t be able to connect.

that&#x27;s not a bug, it&#x27;s a feature

My #1 step in troubleshooting any network issues is to disable IPv6. Step #2 is so rarely needed that I no longer remember what it was. IPv6 has been a failure, it is about time we openly admitted it. Why? Simple - it causes consumer pain and no consumer gain

IPv6... Can it just go away already?<p>Adoption has been declining for years. Many devices don&#x27;t support it. Many services seemingly support it but break in strange ways.<p>And not to mention it&#x27;s a subtle and yet powerful privacy attack vector.