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How to start a rocket engine

357 点作者 Jarlakxen大约 2 年前

15 条评论

ragebol大约 2 年前
I could watch stuff like this all day.<p>Tim&#x27;s stuff is so great. Easy to be jealous of, since being YouTuber <i>seems</i> easy, but to make quality content, it really can&#x27;t be.<p>And then he&#x27;s going around the moon, it&#x27;s really mind blowing to see the success he&#x27;s had. His interviews with Musk are a treasure trove as well, whatever you think of Musk.
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LargeTomato大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m surprised at the amount of people who enjoy EDA. I find him very irritating. Most people at my small space company find him extremely irritating. He is not a rocket scientist. He parrots silly buzzwords like &quot;biomimickry&quot; like a fanboy, not an engineer. He suggests things to Elon for how to do rockets that are just pants-on-head dumb.<p>His blind fanboyism and arrogance irritate so many people who work in space. I&#x27;m very surprised HN loves this guy.
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MarkusWandel大约 2 年前
You can watch the whole thing from the very genesis of the turbopump powered liquid fueled rocket. The British did a very thorough documentation project on the German A4 &#x2F; V2 rocket after WW2 and it&#x27;s all accessible to the public.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.v2rocket.com&#x2F;start&#x2F;chapters&#x2F;backfire.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.v2rocket.com&#x2F;start&#x2F;chapters&#x2F;backfire.html</a><p>In particular, the pyrotechnic igniter that is mentioned in the article as still in use by the Russians was copied directly from there. Here&#x27;s a direct link to the spot in the video where it is assembled for use.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;V_fPdXLx48c?t=2097" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;V_fPdXLx48c?t=2097</a>
HPsquared大约 2 年前
Space shuttle main engines (RS-25) had a very complicated startup process, deviations from this could cause all sorts of different things to fail catastrophically.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;large.stanford.edu&#x2F;courses&#x2F;2011&#x2F;ph240&#x2F;nguyen1&#x2F;docs&#x2F;SSME_PRESENTATION.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;large.stanford.edu&#x2F;courses&#x2F;2011&#x2F;ph240&#x2F;nguyen1&#x2F;docs&#x2F;SS...</a><p>Slide 94 (pdf page 100)
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chasd00大约 2 年前
I think there was a russian engine that literally had 2x4&#x27;s on fire stuck in the combustion chamber in place of torch ignitors or TEAB.<p>If anyone&#x27;s interested the experimental high-power rocketry hobby is pretty fun, there&#x27;s a lot to learn and hack on. A lot of people focus on propulsion and formulating, profiling, and flying various solid fuels they develop themselves. This guy is highly regarded <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nakka-rocketry.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nakka-rocketry.net&#x2F;</a><p>Others focus on flight controllers, GPS trackers, and other electronics. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;altusmetrum.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;altusmetrum.org&#x2F;</a> (i think one of the two owners of altusmetrum is a pretty famous Debian Linux guy from back in the day)<p>There&#x27;s also &quot;hybrid&quot; engines that use a solid fuel and a liquid oxidizer ( nitrous oxide ). Ex, this guy is probably the most well known in the hybrids side of the hobby <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;contrailrockets.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;contrailrockets.com&#x2F;</a><p>Finally, there&#x27;s the halfcat guys <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.halfcatrocketry.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.halfcatrocketry.com&#x2F;</a> who do amateur liquid bi-prop engines in an approachable way. I&#x27;ve working on a design of my own based on their designs and plan to do a static fire in the Fall and hopefully a flight before end of year. The downside with liquid engines in the hobby is governing bodies Tripoli and NAR don&#x27;t allow these engines at sanctioned launches. You either have to launch privately (including coordinating&#x2F;paperwork with the FAA on your own ) or at FAR <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;friendsofamateurrocketry.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;friendsofamateurrocketry.org&#x2F;</a>
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mannykannot大约 2 年前
There&#x27;s lots of information here on the sequence of operations followed in starting the F1 motors of the Saturn V first stage:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;home.kpn.nl&#x2F;panhu001&#x2F;Saturn_V&#x2F;Saturn_V_info&#x2F;F-1_engine&#x2F;F-1_engine_ignition_sequence.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;home.kpn.nl&#x2F;panhu001&#x2F;Saturn_V&#x2F;Saturn_V_info&#x2F;F-1_engi...</a>
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hoorayimhelping大约 2 年前
Tangential but related: &quot;Toxic Propellant Hazards&quot;[1] a video made in the mid&#x2F;late 60s and published by the US National Archives Youtube channel. In addition to having some great information about hypergolic propellants, and having some interesting footage showing what they&#x27;re like to use, it also has that mid-century production quality, the kind that the Fallout games love to simultaneously lampoon and pay homage to<p>1) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Zha9DyS-PPA">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Zha9DyS-PPA</a>
ofrzeta大约 2 年前
Related: John D. Clark &quot;Ignition!: An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants&quot;
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oger大约 2 年前
Definitely among one of the great pieces he has produced. Highly informative and educational. He really finds the right tone and this long piece never gets boring for a second. Also from a production perspective his animated engine charts are top and visualise the point he is making. BTW his interviews with Elon Musk at Starbase are also a must see (some clips included in this video as well). You really start to see and understand how Musk works - and it&#x27;s not as bad as media is trying to make him. His engineering principles are really interesting and can be applied to many scenarios. It&#x27;s this level of abstraction that makes the difference and gives him a competitive edge.
rwmj大约 2 年前
<i>&gt; [Ignition chemical TEA-TEB] is quite expensive, costing roughly the same as the cost of RP-1 for the Falcon 9.</i><p>Is it true that the ignition chemical costs as much as the fuel? That sounds incredible.
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ivankirigin大约 2 年前
This makes me want to go back to school and major in aero&#x2F;astro engineering.
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Koshkin大约 2 年前
Starting the engine(s) even in a propeller-driven airplane used to be a big deal, too. Hell, I&#x27;m sure that even starting a car engine back in the day was a much more complex affair (than simply pushing a button like it is today).
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punnerud大约 2 年前
The more I learn about different types of rockets and all the engineering behind SpaceX, the more I am impressed by what they have accomplished.<p>Huge thanks to ‘Every Day Astronaut‘ for this YouTube channel, so many good videos.
fnordpiglet大约 2 年前
This is great. My rocket starting experiences extend to hitting space in KSP and mashing the red button on an Estes launcher. To be fair in KSP they often wiggle to death on the pad and I’ve spent more time with bored 6 year olds wandering off as I figure out why the Estes motor didn’t ignite, but that’s nothing compared to this.
0cVlTeIATBs大约 2 年前
I was hoping this would be an explanation of the second stage failure to ignite three days ago on Japan&#x27;s H3 rocket.