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Show HN: Find the most climate friendly meeting location

86 点作者 jonashendel大约 2 年前
Just enter the locations people will be traveling from. MLC then calculates the location, where the combined aircraft emissions are minimised. Based on data from the European Emissions Agency.

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tbabej大约 2 年前
Europe has quite a few high-quality, high-speed rail connections. If I may suggest a feature, in order for the tool is to be faithful to its mission, alternative mods of transport could be supported as well.<p>Personally, I am more than happy to take an overnight train than a short-flight, given the additional overhead of travelling to&#x2F;from the airport. An overnight train can take you pretty far within continental Europe.
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zenlf大约 2 年前
It would be funny if it redirects to Zoom.
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iso8859-1大约 2 年前
Isn&#x27;t it better to meet in a place where one of the people is already located? Then one less person has to fly, and they can use their saved time to work and offset the CO2 spent by the additional time traveled by the others.
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microtherion大约 2 年前
There seems to be an underlying assumption that direct flights will be available to the meeting city from all the locations. This is not particularly realistic for long distance meetings, and for shorter distances, why not use rail?<p>In my case, I used Shanghai, San Francisco, and Zurich. The suggested location was Fairbanks, AK, which for the Zurich &amp; Shanghai based team members would mean a 24 hour, two stop flight. I think we&#x27;ll pass.<p>Adding London to the equation shifts the meeting point to… Tromsø, Norway, which demonstrates the absurdity of the geographical micro-optimization perfectly. Picking Stockholm or Oslo in the same neighborhood would have saved literally every participant a stop on their itinerary.
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furyofantares大约 2 年前
How many times is it acceptable to post the same Show HN? (Genuine question)
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e12e大约 2 年前
Does this account for number of people and trains&#x2F;boat etc?<p>[ed: on mobile so can&#x27;t launch the app]
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yosito大约 2 年前
&gt; Open this site on a desktop to view the app.<p>You know, smartphones are capable of displaying websites in desktop mode. Why do you block mobile users&#x27; experience like this? I don&#x27;t have my laptop with me, and won&#x27;t until Monday. Not being able to take a look at your app in the meantime means I probably never will.
wolrah大约 2 年前
This is a really neat tool, but I&#x27;m having a hard time imagining situations where it&#x27;d be all that useful, where people from substantially different locations all need to meet in person, but don&#x27;t care where they&#x27;re meeting. How often does that happen?<p>Am I missing something?
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SECProto大约 2 年前
It doesn&#x27;t work well (graphically) if you choose eg, something in australia and something in the US. Shows the Australia flight travelling West across all of africa (when it actually travels northeast, across the ocean)
Dalewyn大约 2 年前
The correct answer is on the internet: Using Zoom, Discord, Skype, Teams, Facetime, or whatever your favored medium of internet video communications is.<p>In this day and age, particularly in the wake of covid lockdowns, meetings in the flesh are a waste of time and money, let alone the resources; and I say that as someone who doesn&#x27;t subscribe to environmentalism. You need to talk to someone? Radio and telephones solved that a century ago. You need to <i>see</i> someone face to face? Video conferencing solved that a decade or two ago.<p>The only exception is if you must physically exchange something with the other person(s). Otherwise, whatever excuse you have to meet up with someone is vapid; save the time, money, and resources and just fire up Zoom.
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bagels大约 2 年前
Interested, but not enough to do the research, if the data takes in to account the fact that you won&#x27;t find direct flights to most of the places it chooses as the meeting spot.
jeffbee大约 2 年前
I like the way this instantly produces PDFs. Very slick.<p>I&#x27;m not sold on the math because it doesn&#x27;t seem to take into account connecting flights. At least, it does not seem clear that me in SFO and my colleague in KEF should meet in Yellowknife, NT, Canada. It&#x27;s an airport neither of us could reach directly on commercial flights. Considering they would need to fly the wrong way to FRA first, it seems like MSP or YUL make way more sense.
outside1234大约 2 年前
Strange that it doesn&#x27;t choose one of the locations people are in.<p>For example, for me it chose Toronto for an international meeting even tho one of the folks attending was from New York City. Why not NYC to prevent one person from traveling.<p>Also, you need weighting, as often there are multiple people from a location.
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cagenut大约 2 年前
first off thank you, anything even remotely down this road is the right direction.<p>as a UI bug, when I typed &quot;ewr&quot; or even &quot;newark&quot; it shows zero search results. strangely if i back off just one character on either then it does show newark liberty international airport. for some reason the search is penalizing you for finishing the string.<p>a second one, the show report button didnt work at all.<p>product suggestion: make the results a unique url that can be shared amongst coworkers planning an event. they should be able to edit it like a google doc to collaboratively update how many people are flying from what locations, and then everyone can reference the shared url to see the calculated result.<p>last thing, can you share some of the tech details behind how you made the globe&#x2F;flight-visualizations?
cristiioan大约 2 年前
I find the idea great, but there are a few issues with it.<p>The biggest ones I have found is that when there are multiple people flying from the same airport, it won&#x27;t redo the math to try to find a better location.<p>Also it is more fuel efficient for just one to fly than two when there are only two people.
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glaucon大约 2 年前
Total CO2 seems to be for the flight, rather than per passenger ? That might be a good idea or a bad idea but, for me, it would seem to be more suited to private jets rather than scheduled flights ? I&#x27;m really not sure, it&#x27;s for the writer to say.
abeppu大约 2 年前
I entered the 3 US airports I use most frequently, and I was told to meet at an airforce base.
kushie大约 2 年前
why cant i view on mobile
blumomo大约 2 年前
It’s not the one time meetings that are a problem. It’s a problem when it becomes a habit to fly super regularly, on a daily or weekly basis. Picking climate friendly locations for a one off meeting has close to zero impact.
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jedberg大约 2 年前
It seems like once you have a few points in North America and Europe, the answer is always Iceland, no matter how many other cities you add.<p>I guess this makes sense, but it&#x27;s interesting to see visualized.
someweirdperson大约 2 年前
The cheapest place to meet at is usually some destination for tourists, ouside of vacation season of couse.
Temporary_31337大约 2 年前
I’ve found it- it’s the metaverse ;)
pimlottc大约 2 年前
Feature request: You should be able to look up airports by their IATA airport codes
1270018080大约 2 年前
It would be cool to see the non-euclidean paths. Still very nice.
andai大约 2 年前
Any reason this wouldn&#x27;t work as a mobile app?
msla大约 2 年前
Does this only work on locations in Europe?
coding123大约 2 年前
Zoom.com
user3939382大约 2 年前
Peak of Everest
meindnoch大约 2 年前
So... online?
dzogchen大约 2 年前
Flying is not climate friendly. Pretty useless.
galacticaactual大约 2 年前
No thanks.