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Today Apple, Google, 5 Others Battle “No Poach” Conspiracy Case

114 点作者 nikhilpandit超过 13 年前

13 条评论

EvanMiller超过 13 年前
The alleged behavior of these companies is appalling to me. Halting an employee's application to another company is an abuse of power and amounts to theft. In my opinion the perpetrators here should do time in prison, just the same as executives who collude to fix commodity prices.
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marshray超过 13 年前
As a practical matter it means that I, as a Software Engineer, will now have to think long and hard before I submit a resume to one of these HR departments with a history of informing current employers.<p>We can bet that a good many job applicants asked "I don't want to make waves at my current job, but I saw your opening and it looked like such a great fit... So would you please keep my application confidential?"<p>What were they told in response by the hiring HR departments?
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bishnu超过 13 年前
Facebook and Google are already in a hiring war and (if reports are to be believed) it's had a dizzying effect on employee compensation [1]. I can't even imagine the war for talent that will occur in Silicon Valley if these agreements drop. <i>Eyes Apple's cash horde</i><p><a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/11/google-offers-staff-engineer-3-5-million-to-turn-down-facebook-offer/" rel="nofollow">http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/11/google-offers-staff-enginee...</a>
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patio11超过 13 年前
Better than any equity grant or cafeteria, this shows how these companies think of their employees.
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ootachi超过 13 年前
I'm so incredibly proud of Apple right now. Their mastery of the employee supply chain is nothing short of genius.<p>Likewise, is "don't be evil" officially dead yet?
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tedsuo超过 13 年前
Did these agreements actually involve turning down employees who applied for jobs, or just an agreement not to cold-call each other?
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cluda01超过 13 年前
Why haven't these matters been pursued criminally? It seems like there are plenty of incriminating e-mails.
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ekianjo超过 13 年前
I guess this practice is clearly illegal if employees are not aware of this when they are hired. This is like a secret clause to their hiring contract, and that restricts their freedom to move to other positions. Even if California does not consider the practice illegal, there is a clear "abuse of power" case here.
bwarp超过 13 年前
I've turned down positions at two of the aforementioned organisations in favour of much smaller companies (&#60;50 employees). It's worth it. It's better to be a well known and respected employee in a small company than a fungible cog in a corporate machine.
jeffem超过 13 年前
The article doesn't mention an important fact: All of the defendants named in the suit are based in California, a state that does not enforce non-compete agreements (with some minor exceptions).<p>Assuming that these companies agreed not to hire each other's employees, we have a make-shift non-compete agreement, in effect (though not as efficient or encompassing).<p>The biggest issue I have with this case is that these types of antitrust laws exist in the first place. In the absence of fraud, this is a victimless crime. To pay damages implies that the offender took something away from the victim, that they need to be "made whole" again.<p>These employees freely agreed to their compensation packages and received those. They weren't hired elsewhere because those employers freely chose not to after balancing the benefits of recruiting them against the risk of losing current employees.<p>If these companies are really screwing over their employees it seems like a great opportunity for other companies to tell them no thanks to their no-hire agreement and start poaching.
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NegativeOne超过 13 年前
Could they just have people sign non-competes perhaps? If you want to work there, it's just part of the package. Seems like a fair trade off to me, and everything is above ground.
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johnx123-up超过 13 年前
I can't believe Apple is the source of evil stuffs.
publicus超过 13 年前
1 year in jail for everyone who was turned down because of this. 10 Year in jail for every employer notification.